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Sanders: ‘My answer is a lot shorter’ than Clinton on fracking
The Hill ^ | March 6, 2016 | Devin Henry

Posted on 03/06/2016 9:57:10 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders on Sunday night mocked Hillary Clinton's numerous conditions for allowing hydraulic fracturing operations.

"My answer is a lot shorter," he said, responding to a debate question about whether the candidates support fracking, a procedure in which pressurized water and chemicals are injected into the ground to release oil and natural gas.

"No. I do not support fracking," he said to cheers from the debate crowd in Flint, Mich.

Clinton said she opposes individual fracking operations if a series of conditions are met: if local communities oppose it, if the drilling releases methane or contaminates water, or if fracking operators aren't required to identify the chemicals they are using.

"By the time we get through all of my conditions, I do not think there will be many places in America where fracking will continue to take place," she said.

"First, we've got to regulate everything that is currently underway and we've got to have a system in place that prevents further fracking unless conditions like the ones I have mentioned are met."

The federal government has limited regulatory power over fracking except when it happens on federal land. State and local governments, though, have tried to regulate the practice to varying degrees. New York has banned fracking, while the Texas Legislature blocked its cities from limiting the practice on their own.

Sanders, though, said he opposes fracking across the board. He said governors, even Democrats, who allow fracking in their states are wrong for making an economic argument in favor of the technique.

"I talk to scientists who tell me fracking is doing terrible things to water systems all over this country," he said.

"We've got to be bold now. We've got to transform our energy system to energy efficiency and sustainable energy. We have to do it yesterday."


TOPICS: Vermont; Campaign News; Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: 2016election; berniesanders; election2016; energy; fracking; hillary; sanders; vermont
So they're both fools?
1 posted on 03/06/2016 9:57:10 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Unfortunately, Hillary is bringing up real issues this time, and I’m saying that through my shoe leather.


2 posted on 03/06/2016 10:07:39 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sanders: “I’m cracked so I really shouldn’t be against fracking”.

If you say the word “crack” or “cracked” about Hillary, it opens up all kinds of really nasty things one can say about her, Bill, their mental state and their private lives.

Gee Bill, so now you are calling using a cigar, “fracking”?


3 posted on 03/06/2016 10:25:05 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, FRACK YOU Bernie.


4 posted on 03/06/2016 10:47:06 PM PST by beethovenfan (Islam is a cancer on civilization.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Communists like bernie and pigressives like clinton don’t give a damn about the environment unless it serves them personally.


5 posted on 03/06/2016 10:47:51 PM PST by clearcarbon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Their “utopia” is where modern conveniences are made obsolete and having everyone stand in line to get their ration of dung to be burned for cooking and heating purposes.


6 posted on 03/06/2016 10:58:55 PM PST by Skybird
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To: clearcarbon

Clinton will only be for fracking if the companies pay her foundation for the privilege


7 posted on 03/06/2016 11:56:42 PM PST by Nailbiter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You can pity a fool, I’d stick with them being evil stupid ****s...


8 posted on 03/07/2016 12:21:37 AM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Talisker

socialist piece of ####.

I have to logically assume that since socialists don’t believe in elections, that this would be our last one?

has anyone asked him that?


9 posted on 03/07/2016 12:48:40 AM PST by dp0622
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Neither "candidate's" answer is a surprise:

Hillary: ...we've got to regulate everything...

Yep, that pretty well sums up her big-government, power-hungry approach to, well, everything. Regulate it. Get government's greedy little fingers into every pie.

Bernie: ...I talk to scientists who tell me fracking is doing terrible things to water systems all over this country

Gee, that's nice. You can also find an equal or greater number of scientists who say it isn't. Guess you've picked sides on this one though eh? Playing to the base Bernie instead of, oh, I don't know...acting like a leader and advocating what is best for the Country?

10 posted on 03/07/2016 12:56:23 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They don't know fraccing from drilling, for starters.

When you drill the hole, you grind up rock (that's how the hole is made), and just by the act of drilling through rock with any organics in it (including coal beds), methane is released, whether in small quantities (a couple hundred parts per million in air), or in amounts significant enough to produce at a profit.

In some formations, fraccing is not necessary, in other rock formations, there will not be enough production to make money with the well if the rock isn't hydraulically fractured.

The recent "shale boom" of production from unconventional reservoirs has been the result of the combination of horizontal drilling (exposing miles of wellbore to the producing formation, as opposed to a few feet), and the ability to fracture that low permeability rock to get the gas and/or oil to the surface via a cased (lined with steel pipe which is cemented in place) wellbore.

The production technique (hydraulic fracturing AKA: fraccing) has been around some 80 years.

It is nothing new, and has been the production enhancement technique which will continue to provide gas for a large share of electrical generation, home heat, fuel for cooking, heating water, and even in some instances a motor fuel, not to mention well over a million barrels a day of oil production from the Williston Basin (Bakken/Three Forks) alone.

With the administration's war (using the EPA) on coal-fired electrical generation plants (and coal as a fuel), Natural Gas will be the next fuel of choice for power generation. These wells are good, but they deplete relatively rapidly.

Without that Natural Gas, electricity will be expensive, unreliable, and people who use the gas for heating will not have heat.

This would advance America squarely into the fourth world.

I say fourth world, because in the third world people freely use whatever they can get without the Government demanding they freeze in the dark.

Should either of these bungholes get elected, it will be time to rein in government by whatever means.

11 posted on 03/07/2016 1:03:07 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Bern won Oklahoma Nebraska Kansas - places where you'd surely believe Berners oppose fracking outright. Crafty old fart found a one-issue freebie.

Good God if he hadn't given her a pass on the emails he'd be the nominee. If I were a Berner, though ... how in the hell do you exhort each crowd to start a revolution, go full Bolshevik, and then, while you're winning the debate, turn to the biggest political fraud in the past 40 years and shake her slimy hand?

12 posted on 03/07/2016 1:27:35 AM PST by StAnDeliver ("Sweet, sweet tears..")
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To: StAnDeliver

Considering the way that the oil industry is suffering right now I’m surprised he won those states... makes zero sense.


13 posted on 03/07/2016 3:10:27 AM PST by wyowolf
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Fracking is not popular in many places. There's a town around here that's primarily high-density suburban housing. There are very real historical and present concerns about water pollution and the environment. The residents voted against fracking. The vote was overturned by a judge.

So, now it's two issues. Fracking and local control vs judicial interference.

14 posted on 03/07/2016 3:12:31 AM PST by grania
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To: Smokin' Joe
The production technique (hydraulic fracturing AKA: fraccing) has been around some 80 years.

Yep.... this is correct. What is different is the shale drilling (which is horizontal) and fraccing is used on all of those wells.

Years ago I marketed oil and gas production for a producer. Whenever a well didn't turn out to be as good as projected, inevitably the geologist would blame it on the production engineer and that frac job. And, they would sometimes frac with nitrogen, and sometimes water. But this was in the pre-horizontal drilling days.

15 posted on 03/07/2016 3:20:38 AM PST by kjam22 (America need forgiveness from God..... even if Donald Trump doesn't)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I paid $1.75 a gallon for gas yesterday. That price is largely due to oil production in this country (fracking) that has increased the amount of oil on the open market, which has caused gas prices to drop affecting the economies and political power of countries like Russia and Middle Eastern countries who are not our friends.

This has been done with Obama, Democrats, and liberals in general being dragged kicking and screaming in protest, though they will no doubt try to take full credit for it.


16 posted on 03/07/2016 3:53:08 AM PST by rlmorel ("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
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17 posted on 03/07/2016 5:26:09 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“”First, we’ve got to regulate everything that is currently underway and we’ve got to have a system in place that prevents further fracking unless conditions like the ones I have mentioned are met.””

And with that statement, Hillary Clinton told America why a Democrat cannot ever again be President.


18 posted on 03/07/2016 5:48:59 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (GOPe - Enriching the consultant class while selling out their constituents.)
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