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Ben Carson implosion isn't good news for Republican elites. It's good news for Trump.
Vox ^ | November 6, 2015 | dylan

Posted on 11/06/2015 3:46:17 PM PST by entropy12

A national poll released by Fox News this week asked Republican voters who they'd support with and without Carson in the race. Without Carson, Trump gains 8 percentage points, Marco Rubio gains 5, and Cruz gains 3: Sans Carson, Trump goes from 26 to 34% Cruz goes from 11 to 14% Rubio goes from 11 to 16%

(Excerpt) Read more at vox.com ...


TOPICS: Campaign News
KEYWORDS: bencarsonarticle; bencarsonhitpiece; carson; elections; losercarson; mediabias; trump
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To: rrrod

Just like Romney.


41 posted on 11/06/2015 4:29:00 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: entropy12

That is my first sentence in Post #1.


1st Sentence: “Carson is unlikely to drop out, based on the West Point story.”


42 posted on 11/06/2015 4:29:24 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (Diversity is Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama sharing the same jail cell.)
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To: entropy12

Cruz, Trump, Carson or no Presidential vote by me.

I’ve been betrayed and backstabbed by the GOPe for too many decades.


43 posted on 11/06/2015 4:29:58 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: entropy12

[I am shocked Media has not found headline stories disparaging Trump, yet!]

Haven’t they been doing that 24/7 since June?


44 posted on 11/06/2015 4:34:14 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: entropy12
1996 Death Panels and Seizure of Insurance Company Profits In an article published in the Harvard Journal of Minority Public Health, [Vol 2 (1), 1996. Carson BS, Washington H: Health Care Reform -- A Paradigm Shift], Carson advocates for death panels, and the forced seizure of profits by the government from insurance companies.

Excerpts from Health Care Reform-A Paradigm Shift:

The most natural question is, who will pay for catastrophic health care? The answer: The government-run catastrophic health care fund. Such a fund would be supported by a mandatory contribution of 10 to 15 percent of the profits of each health insurance company, including managed care operations[...]

As our general population continues to age and as our technical abilities continue to improve we will find ourselves in a position of being able to keep most people alive...well beyond their 100th birthday. The question is "Should we do it simply because we can? It is well known that up to half of the medical expenses incurred in the average American's life are incurred during the last six months of life....rather than putting them in an intensive care unit, poking and prodding them, operating and testing them ad nauseam, why not allow them the dignity of dying in comfort, at home, with an attendant if necessary?...Decisions on who should be treated and who should not be treated would clearly require some national guidelines." Link to American Thinker

45 posted on 11/06/2015 4:35:48 PM PST by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: Jeff Head

Correct, but some of his supporters (even here) are stone cold isolationists who will find themselves sorely disappointed should he become president.


46 posted on 11/06/2015 4:37:37 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Beware the Louisiana Weasel - GOPe Plan C or make that D)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Maybe....Maybe not.

Think that most (including me) think he’s worth the risk considering the other options (excluding Sen. Cruz) available.


47 posted on 11/06/2015 4:43:24 PM PST by Rational Thought
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To: Jeff Head

“They will do anything to bring him down...just like they did Herman Cain.”

Herman Cain brought himself down by lying about putting the make on women against their will and having a longtime Mistress who went on TV to out him, and had a paper trail, receipts, and many emails from Herman to back up her affair with him, a married man.

Carson will also bring himself down, as he is lying, as proven by his own autobiography statements about West Point and his own statements on his Facebook page recently (Aug, 2015), and statements by Westmoreland’s widow, and by the Army throwing more doubt on Carson’s West Point scholarship offer story.


48 posted on 11/06/2015 4:47:58 PM PST by flaglady47 (TRUMP ROCKS)
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To: entropy12

Trump people are out on tv bashing Carson on the West Point story. It’s going to backfire!


49 posted on 11/06/2015 4:49:20 PM PST by navysealdad (http://drdavehouseoffun.com/)
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To: bigtoona

“They have one mission, total destruction of non-left wing people.”

They can’t bring down Trump, can they..


50 posted on 11/06/2015 4:50:08 PM PST by flaglady47 (TRUMP ROCKS)
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To: navysealdad

“Trump people are out on tv bashing Carson on the West Point story. It’s going to backfire!”

The truth doesn’t backfire, as you will find out. There’s more to come on Carson.


51 posted on 11/06/2015 4:53:02 PM PST by flaglady47 (TRUMP ROCKS)
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To: entropy12

Yeah.. I got that. Polls don’t mean shxt and I could care less. They’re a lot like statistics, find the ones you want and run with it.

There is no Carson implosion, there’s a liberal media take down of anyone they don’t approve of. That’s a given and I don’t give shxt about either.

What if’s are hypothetical.. My point was we need someone who’ll take charge and clean house and with any luck forcefully and extreme prejudice comes to mind.

Who ever emerges, I want a true leader not another POS wannabe. I want someone forceful and someone who will preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States... TO THE LETTER OF THE LAW.

Carson is a good man and everyone makes mistakes i.e. shxt happens. Doesn’t mean he’d make a good President, doesn’t mean he wouldn’t. Trump on the other hand will do what he needs to be in the spotlight and his past is questionable at best. He’s been what he needs to be to benefit no one but himself.


52 posted on 11/06/2015 4:53:24 PM PST by maddog55 (America Rising a new Civil War needs to happen.)
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To: entropy12

“Carson is unlikely to drop out, based on the West Point story. General Westmoreland has passed.

However backing TPP, and against deportation of illegals are more serious IMO.”

Right, the West Point story is a not starter. However the other issues you listed will cause him some problems.


53 posted on 11/06/2015 4:55:14 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: entropy12

And maybe the attacks by Trump on Carson this week will send Carson supporters in another direction. I think a lot of them liked Carson because he was civil.


54 posted on 11/06/2015 4:56:49 PM PST by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: entropy12

What implosion?


55 posted on 11/06/2015 5:09:20 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Jeff Head; All

I posted this to the other thread linked above, describing the appointment process to West Point, from my experience as a parent who went through it with my son, who graduated from USMA.

Carson is not my choice at present, but this attack on him is nonsense. Most HS guidance counselors describe the military academies as offering a full scholarship to those who ask about them.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3357275/posts?page=87#87


56 posted on 11/06/2015 5:18:57 PM PST by jacquej ("You cannot have a conservative government with a liberal culture." (Mark Steyn))
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To: entropy12
Carson would be best as a stealth candidate!

Ben Carson 2016

Y'know, it kinda works! Even looks a little like him. :-)

57 posted on 11/06/2015 5:21:10 PM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: entropy12

Yes, this is tiny potatoes. It’s silly to think this is going to hurt Trump by redirecting it toward him, but the wishful anti-Trumper sure want it to happen.


58 posted on 11/06/2015 5:23:54 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: MNJohnnie

You keep repeating that lie on every thread, Cruz voted to fast track TPA, not TPP. He is going to evaluate the bill on TPP and make his decision - TPP has not been voted on yet.


59 posted on 11/06/2015 5:24:52 PM PST by erod (Chicago Conservative | Cruz or Lose!)
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To: SaxxonWoods

I don’t see it. I read Politicos edit and they didn’t seem to retract a damn thing. They just phrased the accusation with a little more care.


60 posted on 11/06/2015 6:15:38 PM PST by Marie (Hey GOP... The vulgarians are at the gate.)
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