Posted on 09/09/2015 10:18:53 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Via Breitbart, it’s almost beside the point whether what he’s saying here about the expense and logistical difficulties of deporting 11 million people is correct. For what it’s worth, it is correct. No less an authority than Mark Krikorian, executive director of the restrictionist Center for Immigration Studies, said this to WaPo last month:
Amnesty isn’t on Trump’s agenda, though. His plan is deportation, which Krikorian dismissed as unrealistic.
“It’s a gimmick,” Krikorian said. “He’s just making it up as he goes along. What ever goes into his mind comes out of his mouth. There’s no way to deport 11 or 12 million people in a short period of time.”
Even Mitt Romney, whose immigration policy was the most famously conservative plank in his campaign, didn’t bother fantasizing about mass deportation. His plan was to encourage self-deportation by imposing penalties on employers stiff enough that they wouldn’t hire illegals in the first place. As the work dried up, people who’d crossed the border from Mexico would cross right back. Carson’s calling for something similar in the clip below to stop the influx of new illegals, saying, “You have to turn off the spigot that dispenses goodies, including employment. If there is nothing to come for, then people won’t come.” The difference between him and Romney is that he’s prepared to let illegals who are already here in the U.S. stay put in a guest-worker program — although, as it turns out, the GOP platform that was approved at the convention where Romney was formally nominated also called for a guest-worker program. Ted Cruz also wants a more robust guest-worker program, at least for skilled immigrants. And Trump himself — who knows? Catch him on the right day and he’ll tell you that once illegals have been made to leave the U.S., he’d support an “expedited” process that would let them come right back in again as legal workers. Quote: “We got to move ‘em out, we’re going to move ‘em back in if they’re really good people.” Is that materially better than Carson’s plan? Why spend a boatload of money to remove illegals en masse if most of them are going to come back in?
But the policy details are beside the point. The risk here for Carson is that he’s suggesting there are practical limitations on what a conservative president could achieve, and the key to Trump’s appeal is that he makes people believe there are no such limitations if you elect the right person. Find a guy who’s rich and unbeholden to special interests, who’s a master negotiator, who’s ordained by God to be a consummate winner or whatever and there’s no limit to what he can achieve in office. He’s the ultimate “Green Lantern” candidate, which is why so many of his critics see him as a would-be strongman a la Putin. Deport 11 million people? Not easy for an average leader, but for a superhero it’s doable. That’s how he’ll counter Carson on this, I assume — Carson’s willingness to rule out mass deportation preemptively proves he’s weak-willed, which guarantees a failed presidency if he’s elected. Carson’s counter to that is summed up in this quote given to The Hill:
“I won’t change,” he said. “I’ve heard people say, ‘You have to have more fire.’ They want me to stomp and bang my fists, but that’s not who I am. I’m a calm and rational person. You have to be that way as a neurosurgeon.”
That’s a weird pitch in a year when populist rage is swamping the GOP, but Carson seems to think most voters prefer the idea of a steady hand on the wheel as president to a loose cannon prone to making promises he almost certainly can’t keep. Emphasizing the practical difficulties of mass deportation enhances that image: Ben Carson’s not going to BS you, not as a candidate and not as president. You can trust him. Will that play better in Iowa than Trump’s “I can move mountains” blather? You tell me.
Here he is yesterday talking immigration. He was on Megyn Kelly’s show last night too, where she asked him what his favorite Bible verses are, a question that’s been posed to Trump. Carson had no difficulty answering.
What skills do they have? Slicing necks? maybe they could get jobs in a butcher shop.
Sorry, Ben, but that’s a disqualifier. Maybe they can use you in the Cabinet.
He does want to solve the problem, I trust.
The guests who never leave.
I expect Carson’s poll numbers to drop as more folks find out his immigration position. The vast majority support deportation and are not going to buy the malarkey that it can’t be done.
I’m crossing him off my list now.
this is getting easy.
Careful Dr. Ben. You are the one casting the first stone against The Donald, which gives him the opening he’s likely been waiting for. You’ll be sorry! Study what happened to Lindsey Graham, Rick Perry and Scott Walker after they went heavy on the attack. Carly’s day of comeuppance is coming too, but Carly likes to fight, and fights well. So she says to Donald, “Bring it on!”.
You don’t reward people for breaking the law, Doc.
Carson has just reached the peak of his polling. It’s all down hill from here.
“I expect Carson’s poll numbers to drop as more folks find out his immigration position.”
And his lack of understanding of the U.S. constitution.
Amesty is on every single candidate’s agenda. Trump told Ramos the majority would be expedited back as legals. Carson would make them legal “guest workers”.
Amnesty, amnesty, amnesty.
Like Jeb, Carson seems to prefer Guest Workers instead of
American Workers.
How about the gang bangers, Ben. What kind of work shall we find for them?
“You have to turn off the spigot that dispenses goodies, including employment. If there is nothing to come for, then people won’t come.”
But they know if they cross the border and sh*t out a kid, they get all the bennies for poor little Juan or Juanita. Turn off the entitlements that they don’t deserve and absolutely no more REFUGEES. Who, I wasn’t aware of until yesterday, get the whole welfare package when they arrive here.
Just do what Denmark is about to do..
http://www.thelocal.dk/20150826/denmark-passes-controversial-refugee-benefit-cuts
And then year after year, keep cutting, little by little And affirm the the 14th Amendment doesn’t grant any type of citizenship.
Ben just doesn’t get it.
These criminals are overrunning our country and destroying our culture.
America wants them OUT. Not as “guest workers”, who are free to rape and murder the same as all the other mexicriminals.
Trump has never suggested it could be. His paper on illegal immigration mentions deportation only in context with criminal Illegals.
Krikorian's deliberate misrepresentation is disappointing because it indicates his other "facts" should be taken with an ample helping of salt.
Look who is back!
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