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Donald Trump — A Messiah the Angry, Frustrated and Fed-Up Wing Has Been Waiting For
Bernard Goldberg's website ^ | August 18, 2015 | Bernard Goldberg

Posted on 08/18/2015 8:48:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Okay, so what happens after Trump?

What happens if he fades away or decides he’s had enough and drops out? What do his angry, frustrated and fed-up supporters do? Do they also drop out?

Early warning: This column has more questions than answers – usually not a good thing for someone who’s at least attempting to influence the conversation. But when writing or talking about Donald Trump and his run for the presidency, there are few easy, or obvious, answers to the many questions his candidacy raises.

You’ve been warned.

There is a civil war raging in the Republican Party, even if some conservatives don’t think so. It’s a battle between the angry, frustrated and fed-up wing and the more moderate types. At the moment Trump is the standard bearer for the angry wing, voters who may very well sit home on Election Day if Trump or someone they think is not “conservative enough” wins the nomination.

Trump tells us he’ll deport 11 million illegal immigrants. It’s not going to happen and I suspect even he knows it. But so what? It’s what the angry, frustrated and fed-up wing wants to hear.

He tells us he’s going to build a wall to keep illegals from south of the border out of this country – and the Mexicans are going to pay for it. That’s not going to happen, either. But again, so what?

How’s he going to deal with China? Don’t you worry, he will. He’s a good negotiator. Just ask him. And that also is good enough for his the Trump faithful.

When you’re angry, frustrated and fed-up someone like Trump looks like a messiah you’ve been waiting for. They don’t care if Trump is just spouting words that have little substance. They don’t care how impractical he is. His strong suit is that he’s not the others. And for the moment, that’s more than enough.

Here’s another question: If Trump no longer is in the race will his acolytes throw their support to another “real conservative” or say the deck was stacked against their guy and sit it out?

And what if that post-Trump “real conservative” is someone in the Trump mold, but a tad more sophisticated – someone like Ted Cruz? What if he also fails to win the nomination (which is a good bet)? Will the angry, frustrated and fed-up wing support Rubio or Kasich or Fiorina? How about Bush or Christie? Don’t bet on it.

Of course, there’s another possibility – in my view, a very long shot. And that is: Trump actually wins the nomination.

Most GOP voters want anybody but Hillary (or Sanders or Biden), but do they want Donald Trump and his massive ego as the voice and face of America? Do they really want him in charge of the nuclear football? Will they vote for Donald – or sit home?

We all remember that at the top of the GOP debate, Fox News moderator Bret Baier asked all the candidates if they would pledge to support the party’s nominee — whomever it might be. All but Trump said they would. But there’s another important question hovering over the campaign: Will GOP voters support the Republican candidate — whomever it turns out to be.

The answer to that question would tell us a lot about whether the Republicans have a real chance of winning the White House in 2016.


TOPICS: New York; Campaign News; Issues; Parties; Polls
KEYWORDS: 2016election; deportation; election2016; illegalimmigration; immigration; newyork; trump
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To: RitaOK
While traveling, I heard an audio version of some black woman passionately rousing blacks to Donald Trump and I was astounded. She touted his jobs agenda, and hope in America again, and wouldn’t let go. It was wonderful.

Video: Two Black Women Defend Donald Trump, Assail Megyn Kelly

Lets stump for Donald Trump: he is the only one that will secure that damn border


41 posted on 08/18/2015 10:36:02 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen (When the going gets tough--the Low Information President Obie from Nairobi goes golfing/fundraising)
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To: Steely Tom

Exactly.

Trump is Ventura / Schwarzenegger.


42 posted on 08/18/2015 10:37:01 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (#BlackLivesMatter ??? #StopKillingEachother !!!)
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To: bluejean

In my opinion, even if the majority of them come out defiant, and say all the right things you want to hear, it wouldn’t ring true in my book. I know that if elected, they will pull a Boehnor, McConnell on us. So, I don’t trust them.


43 posted on 08/18/2015 10:37:06 PM PDT by Catsrus (M)
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To: bluejean
If they wimp out and continue to play the dem PC game

The GOP are playing by the rules set by the Democrats, indeed. While the Dems
have no inclination of doing the same, the GOP is infested with Democrats.
Do we think for one minute that the Democrats would allow a Conservative in their ranks?

The GOP is a suicide pact on their unwilling supporters.

44 posted on 08/18/2015 10:37:22 PM PDT by MaxMax (2008-Now, Obama's fault)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Or maybe he’s Ronald Reagan???


45 posted on 08/18/2015 10:38:40 PM PDT by Catsrus (M)
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To: Catsrus

Cruz is Reagan.

Trump is Trump.


46 posted on 08/18/2015 10:42:10 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (#BlackLivesMatter ??? #StopKillingEachother !!!)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Really? Reagan signed amnesty in 1986. So, maybe Cruz is like Reagan in that aspect with his wanting to increase H-1B visas 500%.


47 posted on 08/18/2015 10:45:25 PM PDT by Catsrus (M)
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To: wardaddy

I don’t believe Wolfie’s exists anymore :-(


48 posted on 08/18/2015 10:46:51 PM PDT by mbrfl (fightingmad)
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To: Steely Tom

“I really fear he’s going to turn into another Schwarzenegger.”

Not even close. Arnold was sponsored and advised by a cabal of Cal GOPe kingmakers who hated conservatives.


49 posted on 08/18/2015 11:08:47 PM PDT by Pelham (Deo Vindice)
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To: mbrfl

Dang shame then...I’d drive out there from my place off old Cutler in south miami long ago for the sandwiches and rice pudding


50 posted on 08/18/2015 11:24:37 PM PDT by wardaddy (My ears are bleeding....FOX ..all I hear are shrill high pitched whiney women taking over each other)
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To: RitaOK
I've posted it previously but it's a good story:

A few days ago I was waiting in line at a cash register and a black man in line without preamble asked me "Are you voting for Donald Trump?"

I was caught off guard, and I returned: "Are

you?"

"He's crazy," he replied.

I smiled. "But are you voting for him?"

"I think so. The sane people are killing us."

51 posted on 08/18/2015 11:37:39 PM PDT by GoneSalt (+NooB+"I STAND WITH DONALD TRUMP-HE'S TERRIFIC-HE'S BRASH-HE SPEAKS THE TRUTH"~TED CRUZ~)
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To: Company Man
He is rebuilding the old Reagan coalition. We are seeing the left-right paradigm crumbling before our eyes.

You're on to something here, no doubt. Pervasive anger and fear will always create the conditions for a paradigm change.

The focus on this thread is on the Republican party being in "disarray". But perhaps what we are witnessing is the utter disintegration of the Democratic Party. Maybe that's all that's happening.

I'm not sure it matters that the Trump coalition differs in composition from what was the Reagan coalition, because it's going to have the same effect.

I think the story of the election will be how the traditional Dem party voting blocs simply stayed home.

52 posted on 08/19/2015 12:34:26 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The meltdown is spreading to the fringes - soon the “News” stations will be blank screens while the “Reporters” spend time undergoing shock therapy...


53 posted on 08/19/2015 3:32:32 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: trebb

If you listen to Bernie Goldberg long enough, you can tell he has lived in the NYC/DC Beltway way too long. I literally cringe when I hear him on Oreilly spouting his attempts to show how FAIR and OBJECTIVE he is. This guy is a washed up has been who was run out of CBS by his liberal friends. He resents that but his blood flows liberal.


54 posted on 08/19/2015 3:46:26 AM PDT by doosee (Captain, we are approaching a new level of Hell.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yawn. Another know-it-all dick-wad. America certainly has no shortage of them.


55 posted on 08/19/2015 3:50:12 AM PDT by samtheman (2014: Voters elect Repubs to congress... 2015: Repubs defund NOTHING... 2016: Trump/Cruz)
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To: Duchess47

Don’t sit out the election. Vote 3rd party or write-in Palin or Cruz. Show the RNC puppet-masters that they lost your vote.


56 posted on 08/19/2015 3:53:31 AM PDT by samtheman (2014: Voters elect Repubs to congress... 2015: Repubs defund NOTHING... 2016: Trump/Cruz)
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To: DiogenesLamp

They will be the same judges. That is exactly my point. The legal system is filled to the brim with Left-Wing Liberal nut judges, and unless you specifically select Conservative judges, you will get Liberal judges by default. Trump will put forth whatever judges his staff picks, and we will get the same Liberal Judges as Hillary would have picked.
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What is your basis for this opinion? A businessman, which is what Trump is, is interested in more freedom, not less. As liberal judges are in favor of government control of every aspect of our lives, I do not see the correlation.


57 posted on 08/19/2015 4:10:47 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bernard seems extremely angry and frustrated and scared senseless over Trump and Cruz ...

“And what if that post-Trump “real conservative” is someone in the Trump mold, but a tad more sophisticated – someone like Ted Cruz? What if he also fails to win the nomination (which is a good bet)? Will the angry, frustrated and fed-up wing support Rubio or Kasich or Fiorina? How about Bush or Christie? Don’t bet on it.”

And he calls us the “angry wing”?


58 posted on 08/19/2015 4:28:04 AM PDT by Heart of Georgia (We need Cruz. Simple as that.)
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To: Raycpa

He was in quivering unhinged moonbat stage on O’Reilly recently. Even BOR laughed in his face.


59 posted on 08/19/2015 4:33:15 AM PDT by Heart of Georgia (We need Cruz. Simple as that.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“but do they want Donald Trump and his massive ego as the voice and face of America?”

Yes.


60 posted on 08/19/2015 4:41:03 AM PDT by redfreedom (All it takes for evil to win is for good people to do nothing - that's how the left took over.)
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