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Ted Cruz’s frightening gun fanaticism: When a presidential contender encourages armed insurrection
Salon ^ | April 17, 2015 | Simon Maloy

Posted on 04/17/2015 11:48:06 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Ted Cruz thinks Americans should arm themselves against "tyranny," and Lindsey Graham thinks that's crazy.

As incredible as it sounds, there’s an argument going on right now between two Republican senators (and, potentially, two Republican candidates for the presidency) over whether the American citizenry should be ready to fight a war against the federal government. The two senators in question are Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham, and they can’t seem to agree whether the Second Amendment serves as bulwark against government “tyranny.”

It all started with a fundraising email Cruz sent making the case that “The 2nd Amendment to the Constitution isn’t for just protecting hunting rights, and it’s not only to safeguard your right to target practice. It is a Constitutional right to protect your children, your family, your home, our lives, and to serve as the ultimate check against governmental tyranny — for the protection of liberty.” TPM’s Sahil Kapur asked Graham what he thought of his Texan colleague’s view of the Second Amendment, and the South Carolina senator was not impressed. He even invoked the Civil War, which should make Cruz’s people plenty upset. “Well, we tried that once in South Carolina,” Graham said. “I wouldn’t go down that road again.”

This view of gun rights that casts personal firearm ownership as a check on the abuses of government doesn’t make a great deal of practical sense, and it betrays a lack of faith in our democratic institutions. But it’s become increasingly popular among high-level Republican officials who quite literally scare up votes by telling voters they’re right to keep their Glocks cocked just in case the feds come for them. Iowa’s new Republican senator Joni Ernst famously remarked that she supports the right to carry firearms to defend against “the government, should they decide that my rights are no longer important.”

The obvious question raised by statements like those from Cruz and Ernst is: when does the shooting start? What is the minimum threshold for government “tyranny” that justifies an armed response from the citizenry? In 2014, Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy was ready to start a shooting war with the feds to defend his illegal grazing practices, and he garnered the support of top-level Republican officials (they only abandoned him after he started wondering aloud whether black people would be better off as slaves).

It’s an important question because Republicans and conservatives – Ted Cruz included – tend to throw around terms like “tyranny” sort of haphazardly when criticizing policies and politicians they disagree with.

In May 2013, Cruz spoke at a press conference arranged by then-Rep. Michele Bachmann (remember her?) to vent rage at the IRS over its targeting of Tea Party-aligned non-profit groups. Cruz quoted Thomas Jefferson to suggest that the IRS scandal (along with Benghazi and Obamacare and other stuff) was a harbinger of “tyranny” from the federal government:

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Last January, Cruz said Barack Obama was running the country like a dictator because of his executive orders on immigration and the administration’s delay of the Affordable Care Act’s employer mandate. “There are countries on this globe where that is how the law works,” Cruz said. “You look at corrupt countries where the rule of law is meaningless, where dictators are in power and they have things they call law. But what does law mean?”

Later that same month he wrote a Wall Street Journal Op-Ed suggesting that Obama’s “lawlessness” was a threat to personal liberty:

That would be wrong—and it is the Obama precedent that is opening the door for future lawlessness. As Montesquieu knew, an imperial presidency threatens the liberty of every citizen. Because when a president can pick and choose which laws to follow and which to ignore, he is no longer a president.

I don’t doubt that Cruz would argue strongly against an armed response to Obama’s immigration orders and tweaks to Obamacare. But at the same time, he’s the one bringing up government “tyranny” and “lawlessness,” and he’s the one bringing up the need to arm oneself in order to preserve one’s liberty. So he should be the one to explain where those two concepts intersect, and when an armed citizen would be justified in committing violence against the government.


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1 posted on 04/17/2015 11:48:06 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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2 posted on 04/17/2015 11:49:41 AM PDT by struggle
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Boy, it sure does not take much to get the Party of Government and the Talking Class into a tizzy, doesn’t it?


3 posted on 04/17/2015 11:50:54 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("Keeping your stick down used to be a commandment, but not anymore" Harry Sinden, 1988)
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The ex-hippies at Salon were real gung-ho for insurrection when it was their side doing the insurrecting.


4 posted on 04/17/2015 11:51:41 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP for A Slower Handbasket)
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Sniff...Sniff! I smell something...smells like fear!


5 posted on 04/17/2015 11:52:27 AM PDT by gr8eman (Don't waste your energy trying to understand commies. Use it to defeat them!)
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Salon is filled with a cadre of organized communists. Of course they would disparage any resistance to their communism.


6 posted on 04/17/2015 11:52:46 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The FCC takeover of the internet will quickly become a means to censorship of dissent.)
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Yet another anti-American BS gun-grabber screed in the communie propaganda mediia?

Time to purchase another firearm for the collection!


7 posted on 04/17/2015 11:54:33 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (Another brilliantl- intelligent comment sent thru an amazingly-stupid spell checker)
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But it’s just fine and dandy for a legislator in California to draft up legislation to arm homosexuals for their protection against bigoits...


8 posted on 04/17/2015 11:54:38 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (BeThe Keystone Pipe like ProjectR : build it already Congre)
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You have a link for that?


9 posted on 04/17/2015 11:55:38 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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Like Jefferson?


10 posted on 04/17/2015 11:55:54 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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So Lindsay Graham considers the election of Lincoln and a promise to end slavery equates to government tyranny? What a bizarre viewpoint...


11 posted on 04/17/2015 11:56:25 AM PDT by Homer1
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and when an armed citizen would be justified in committing violence against the government.

That's easy. See King George III, and what we did there.

Won that and made a US of A. If we the people made it... we can unmake it.

Mind your place Federal government...

/johnny

12 posted on 04/17/2015 11:56:45 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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These little p000ies ought be scared. But they’re the idiots trying to light the fuse.


13 posted on 04/17/2015 11:56:51 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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If Cruz was pushing for a rebellion, why would he be running for a position he wants to tear down?


14 posted on 04/17/2015 11:57:08 AM PDT by Tzimisce
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..bulwark against government “tyranny.”

I don’t think it’s a bulwark against government “tyranny”, but it is a bulwark against government tyranny (absent the scare quotes). I think that’s what Cruz was referring to, as well.


15 posted on 04/17/2015 11:58:00 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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Ted Cruz thinks Americans should arm themselves against "tyranny,"

I love the quotes around "tyranny."

Obviously tyranny is impossible in America. I know that's true because President Obama himself has said so, and he never lies.

Obama To Grads: Reject Voices That Warn About Government Tyranny

16 posted on 04/17/2015 11:58:09 AM PDT by Maceman
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No, not currently, but wasn’t there a article here on FR on that very subject a few weeks ago ?


17 posted on 04/17/2015 11:58:14 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (BeThe Keystone Pipe like ProjectR : build it already Congre)
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I like Cruz more all the time. No surprise that he actually understands what the Second Amendment is for - and he is not afraid to say so.


18 posted on 04/17/2015 11:58:25 AM PDT by Martin Tell (Victrix causa diis placuit sed victa Catoni.)
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The fear is palpable.


19 posted on 04/17/2015 11:59:14 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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Don’t start none, won’t be none...


20 posted on 04/17/2015 11:59:46 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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