Free Republic
Browse · Search
GOP Club
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Obama: The conservative in 2012 (He's serious!)
The Washington Post ^ | December 25, 2011 | E.J. Dionne, Jr.

Posted on 12/25/2011 8:16:01 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

At a moment when the nation wonders whether politicians can agree on anything, here is something that unites the Republican presidential candidates — and all of them with President Obama: Everyone agrees that the 2012 election will be a turning point involving one of the most momentous choices in U.S. history.

True, candidates (and columnists) regularly cast an impending election as the most important ever. Campaigning last week in Pella, Iowa, Republican Rick Santorum acknowledged as much. But he insisted that this time, the choice really was that fundamental. “The debate,” he said, “is about who we are.”

Speaking not far away, in Mount Pleasant, Newt Gingrich went even further, and was more specific. “This is the most important election since 1860,” he said, “because there’s such a dramatic difference between the best food-stamp president in history and the best paycheck candidate.” Thus did Gingrich combine historic sweep with a cheap and inaccurate attack. Nonetheless, it says a great deal that Gingrich chose to reach all the way back to the election that helped spark the Civil War.

Mitt Romney was on the same page in a speech in Bedford, N.H. “This is an election not to replace a president but to save a vision of America,” he declared. “It’s a choice between two destinies.” Sounding just like Santorum, he urged voters to ask: “Who are we as Americans, and what kind of America do we want for our children?”

Obama could not agree more...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; Parties; U.S. Congress
KEYWORDS: gingrich; obama; romney; santorum
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-30 last
To: ClearCase_guy

The call to take Bin Laden down was made by Clinton and Panetta. Obama was a disinterested observer.


21 posted on 12/25/2011 9:59:07 PM PST by OrioleFan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
(He's serious!)

No, he's E.J. Dionne, creating fresh manure for the ComPost.

22 posted on 12/25/2011 10:04:35 PM PST by TChad
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

In a sense, the author is right. Obama is “conservative” in one sense of that word. He wants to keep the system the way it is now, with the same ruling class continuing to rule and expand its writ in the same way it has done since the 1930’s. He is at the heart of the ruling conventional wisdom and wants to conserve the power of the class that imposes that conventional wisdom.

In the sense “conservative” is used on this FR, he is of course the anti-christ. But modern conservatives are actually revolutionaries. They want to end the beast created by progressives since the 30’s. So maybe conservative is the wrong word for us. There’s not much point in trying to conserve something that, for the most part, no longer exists.


23 posted on 12/26/2011 1:26:28 AM PST by ModelBreaker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rabscuttle385; 2ndDivisionVet; sickoflibs; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; BufordP; roamer_1; Impy

” the average self-interested American taxpayer, seeking to minimize taxes and fees paid while maximizing benefits obtained from the government (”getting the most bang for the buck,” is more than willing to elect officials who add debt - lots of debt - to the mix. In short, the complexity of government has created the illusion that a free lunch - or as my economist friends might put it, both guns and butter at the same time - is in fact possible (while in reality, it’s not). “

“Land of the spree, and home of the knave...”

Groucho Marx


24 posted on 12/26/2011 4:45:58 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: stephenjohnbanker; rabscuttle385; 2ndDivisionVet; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; BufordP; roamer_1; ...
I noticed a number of years ago that POTUS races are :
1) Popularity contests
2) A contest as to who will/can promise the most free goodies with a straight face

And Obama is definitely experienced at #2 : “You mean I can get Social Security when I retire without paying the taxes for it if I just vote for Obama? And only the rich will have to pay the taxes if he is made King? And my free college at the taxpayers expense is their investment not just me getting welfare?

I came across this last night : The US Economy is Doomed

25 posted on 12/26/2011 5:59:46 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama is conserving the welfare state, which is issue #1 through 10 with these MSM jokers.


26 posted on 12/26/2011 6:01:20 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: sickoflibs
'the American people have been charlie sheened'...

in a nutshell...

27 posted on 12/26/2011 6:46:07 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obama will thus be the conservative in 2012, in the truest sense of that word.

I knew that it would be a matter of time before the Liberals co-opt the term "conservative". If they cannot take the term they will neutralize the term with confusing and contradictory definitions.

28 posted on 12/26/2011 7:15:37 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (Neo-communist equals Neo-fascist - VRW Conspirator)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama should run with this. His new campaign slogan can be something like the following:

“No change. No hope. 4 more years!”


29 posted on 12/26/2011 9:21:18 AM PST by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: stephenjohnbanker

Who’s the first quote from?


30 posted on 12/27/2011 3:56:42 AM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-30 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
GOP Club
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson