Posted on 05/25/2010 6:40:27 PM PDT by Amish
To see the posted results from today's Idaho primary, see the attached link.
That’s a big surprise, I didn’t know about either of those. One would think those would deep-six Minnick’s reelection chances, in spite of his dissents on other issues.
There was no plagerism. Labrador's supporter admitted, bragged about, fabricating the video through extensive editing.
With editing, you could make a Reagan speech match up with a Carter speech.
Labrador is a skunk, and if he gets elected, you will see him vote for amnesty, and turn against every conservative thing you now think he represents.
You really believe some nutty conspiracy theory about the video of Ward’s speech being doctored or something? The only editing done to Obama’s and Ward’s videos was to remove specific references to the specific race (such as Obama mentioning John Kerry’s name). If you watch the end of the side-by-side video produced by that state senator, you’ll see the full text of Obama’s passage and exactly what was extracted. You need to face the fact that Ward plagiarized Obama’s speech, just as he plagiarized the issue positions from the websites of other Republicans. That doesn’t mean that Ward is a bad person or an Obama fan (his years of service in the Marines and CIA prove him to be a patriot), but it does mean that he wasn’t a very good congressional candidate.
And would you really support a Democrat who has a pro-abortion and pro-gay voting record and who will vote for a Democrat Speaker who will push amnesty for illegal aliens and open borders over a Republican with a solidly conservative voting record and who has consistently stated that he opposes open borders and amnesty? I acknowledge that Labrador cast a disappointing vote on the legal residency verification requirement, and that we have to hold his feet to the fire to ensure that he votes the right way in Congress (and if you don’t like the way he votes in Congress you can bote against him in the primary next time), but allowing a liberal Democrat to win is idiotic.
It's no conspiracy theory when the perpetrator, Lucas Baumbach, is bragging about how much he had to edit the videos to make them appear to be the same words.
br> Baumbach: ‘It was a piece of propaganda’
Lucas Baumbach, the Boise Republican legislative candidate who created the video mash-up juxtaposing phrases from speeches by Vaughn Ward and Barack Obama, calls himself a “RINO hunter” and a “Tea Party activist” and is blunt about why he created the mash-up: Because he supported Raul Labrador over Ward. His video mash-up gives the impression that Ward, in his announcement speech in the Idaho Capitol on Jan. 26, parroted Obama’s 2004 Democratic National Convention speech word-for-word, though that’s not exactly the case.Labrador is a sleazeball, and will most likely turn out to be a bigger disappointment than Bill Sali.
“No, it wasn’t accurate - it was a piece of propaganda,” Baumbach told Eye on Boise today, “and people thought that there was enough truth in it to change their votes.” Baumbach said he decided to exercise his video-editing skills after a May 13 blog post from the Idaho Statesman’s Dan Popkey pointed out similar turns of phrase in the two speeches, and Dustin Hurst of the Idaho Freedom Foundation’s IdahoReporter.com followed up with a May 21 story including video from both speeches. “That wasn’t attracting much attention,” Baumbach said. Simply posting both videos wasn’t enough, he said, “when you’re trying to get the word out, sensationalizing something.”
“I admit that there was a lot of editing that went on there,” Baumbach said. He’d just finished being congratulated by other like-minded Republicans after a GOP unity rally today at the state Capitol, where some were throwing around the word “brilliant;” last night, at GOP election-night headquarters, Baumbach attracted similar praise from some in the crowd who called him “the man of the hour.” Baumbach’s mash-up was featured on the “Tonight Show with Jay Leno” last night, though Leno left off the final scene in which Baumbach shows Ward’s face slowing morphing into Obama’s. Click below to read the full text of the speech sections that included the similar turns of phrase; click here to watch Baumbach’s mash-up.
OK, let’s see if we can clear this up. Vaughn Ward based a pretty good chunk of his speech announcing his candidacy on Obama’s speech during the 2004 Democrat convention. Did he just read Obama’s speech straight through? Of course not; he took out inappropriate stuff (such as references to Kerry), added some additional lines (that either he or his speechwriter wrote or, perhaps, he took from some other speech he liked) and made slught modifications to some of Obama’s words. But it was easily identifiable as Obama’s speech by those familiar with both speeches, as had been pointed out by others prior to Baumbach. All Baumbach did was edit the speeches to take out the parts that Ward didn’t copy from Obama and leave the parts that he did copy. That’s not a dirty trick or video doctoring or putting words in Ward’s mouth, it’s separating the wheat from the chaff. So Baumbach wants to pat himself on the back for his editing job? Well, he has the right to be proud—he did a great job, producing a very professional end product that made it clear to everyone exactly hom much of Ward’s speech was taken from Obama’s. Ward has no one to blame but himself for lifting so much of his speech from Obama’s.
And I don’t understand your comment about Labradior probably turning out to be as disappointing as Sali. Sali had one of the most conservative voting records in the nation during his brief stay in Congress, and the only disappointin. thing about him is that he lost to Minnick because RINOs and anti-Sali conservatives voted for Minnick.
Bill Sali was excellent on the issues, and his loss stemmed more from personality than anything else. He was perceived by many as a flake. Hopefully, Labrador will be similar in voting record without being similar in personality.
Sali lost in 2008 because he didn’t bother to campaign. He thought he didn’t have to. I voted for him, but apparently the majority of voters in District 1 figured he just didn’t want the job.
I think that’s a fair criticism of Sali. It’s a shame that he didn’t take the electoral part of his job seriously, because he was excellent on the issues.
I think that was part of John Hostettler problem too. I’m sure his money allergy dated back to his house service.
Yes, partly, but Hostettler was at least able to rally social conservatives in his district for 6 elections (until he ran into Ellsworth) in a far less Republican district than Sali’s.
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