Smoking Kills

CNN.com ^

[JesusSaves]

LONDON, England (Reuters) -- Smoking killed nearly five million people in 2000, accounting for almost equal numbers in the developed and developing nations and painting a bleak picture for the future, scientists have said.

[cinFLA]

Yeah, but do you have control over the drunk driver coming at you?

Being alert and driving defensively helps reduce the risk.

How about the truck driver who loses control of his rig because he fell asleep at the wheel?

Being alert and driving defensively helps reduce th risk.

What about the guy who has a heart attack at the wheel?

Being alert and driving defensively helps reduce the risk.

What about lung cancer?

Not smoking reduces the risk!

[Sunshine Sister]

Ah key words. "Reduces the risk."

[cinFLA]

(from one of your links)

"As someone who gets short of breath climbing a flight of stairs in my apartment building, I in no way dispute the adverse physical effects associated with consistent tobacco use."

[cinFLA]

Ah key words. "Reduces the risk."

Right. That is what life is all about, Risks. Reduce your risks and you will probably live longer, increaase your risks and you will probably die sooner.

Smoking increases your risk of lung cancer by about 20x. Not my cup of tea.

[William Terrell]

Those are overall statistics. The set I posted were individual numbers with references.

[William Terrell]

Pro-smoking agenda or not, the studies provide objective numbers, with sources and specifics. They just were willing to publish them, whereas an anti-smoking organization would not.

[William Terrell]

Some, not a lot. The vast majority indicate less than statistically significant.

[William Terrell]

"Reduces the risk" phrase only signifcant in context. Read the context. Risk factors below 3 are not statistically relevant, which means the risk link can't be established.

[cinFLA]

"Reduces the risk" phrase only signifcant in context. Read the context. Risk factors below 3 are not statistically relevant, which means the risk link can't be established.

I guess you consider a 30% increase in risk to be insignificant. Give me a 30% advantage in the stock market and I will be a billionaire in a year!

[cinFLA]

Do your homework. With increasing numbers of studies the uncertainty decreases making it more statistically significant.

[ServesURight]

Smoking Kills? Tell that to George Burns.

And President Reagan too, who lived to be 93.

[Old Professer]

Basically, that is where they start.

[ServesURight]

Is that really you in that pic? Hubba hubba....

[Gabz]

Cigarette smoke contains enough CO to set off a CO monitor.

Bravo sierra.

[cinFLA]

President Reagan gave up smoking. Duh ...

[Gabz]

"Reduces the risk" phrase only signifcant in context. Read the context. Risk factors below 3 are not statistically relevant, which means the risk link can't be established.

You are correct - unfortunately the anti-smoker cartel refuses to acknowledge that FACT of epidemiology and statistics.

[cinFLA]

Risk factors below 3 are not statistically relevant, which means the risk link can't be established.

A relative risk factor of 3 means that the event is 3 times more likely to occur. The difference between putting one bullet in a gun vs. three bullets. Would you consider it statistically relevant to have three vs. one bullets in a gun when playing russian roulette? I think most reasonable people would say there was.

[cinFLA]

RR of lung cancer death from smoking

(zero to one pack per day)

[cinFLA]

You are correct - unfortunately the anti-smoker cartel refuses to acknowledge that FACT of epidemiology and statistics.

If y'all are going to talk statistics, you should at least be correct. The size of the RR factor has NO impact on its statistical relevance. Please go do your homework.

[ampat]

That's dihydrogen monoxide.