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Discovery of Japanese sub proves sailors of USS Ward hit target in 1941
Center / Knight Ridder Newspapers ^ | 12/7/2002 | Bill Gardner

Posted on 12/08/2002 3:35:30 PM PST by ex-Texan

Discovery of Japanese sub proves sailors of USS Ward hit target in 1941


ST. PAUL, Minn. - (KRT) - On Dec. 7, 61 years ago, a group of Navy reservists from St. Paul, Minn., fired the first American shots of World War II, sinking a Japanese two-man submarine trying to sneak into Pearl Harbor a little more than an hour before the attack.

Yes, the men on the USS Ward not only fired the shots. They sank the sub.

They've been saying that for 61 years, but not everyone believed the Ward actually sank the sub. There was no proof. No one could find the sub on the floor of the Pacific Ocean.

Even Robert Ballard, who found the Titanic in 1985 and John F. Kennedy's PT-109 earlier this year, couldn't find the sub.

Decades passed, and the men from the Ward got older and older. Most have died. Only about 20 of the 82 men are alive.

A little more than three months ago, on Aug. 28, researchers from the Hawaii Undersea Research Laboratory sent two exploratory subs down 1,200 feet to look at an object that showed up on sonar. They hoped it was the missing Japanese submarine.

"All of a sudden it appeared out of the murky depths just sitting on the sand," said John Wiltshire, associate director of the University of Hawaii laboratory.

News accounts quickly flashed around the world, and the men from the Ward excitedly called one another.

Willett Lehner, who lives in Stevens Point, Wis., recalls getting a call from a former shipmate now living in Florida.

"They found it! They found it! See, we knew we sank it," Lehner recalled hearing over the phone.

Lehner, 82, never had any doubts. The Ward was patrolling the entrance to Pearl Harbor the morning of Dec. 7, 1941, when the destroyer's crew spotted the sub, one of five headed toward the harbor shortly before the attack by Japanese planes that left 2,390 people dead and 1,178 wounded.

The Japanese sub was at the surface when the Ward fired two shots, the first missing but the second striking the sub's conning tower. "I saw it when it got hit, and I saw it when it was going down, and I was sure we had sunk it," Lehner said.

After the war ended, the men from the reserve unit formed the First Shot Naval Vets club in St. Paul in 1947 and have met regularly over the years. They helped get the gun from the Ward brought to St. Paul in 1958, where it now sits on the state Capitol grounds next to the Veterans Service Building.

Every year, the men gather at the gun on Dec. 7, and they did so again at a ceremony Saturday morning.

Proud of firing the first shots, the men also wanted credit for sinking the sub. They were delighted when it was found. The sub has shell damage in its conning tower and still has both of its torpedoes.

"We'd been telling them that for 60 years, and now they know it," said Orville Ethier of St. Paul, president of the First Shot Naval Vets.

Lehner traveled to Hawaii two years ago to help Ballard find the sub. Ballard searched for two weeks, and Lehner was on the ship every day.

"The thing is, he didn't want to take anyone else's advice," Lehner said of the legendary shipwreck finder. "I thought we were out too far. I kept telling him we need to move over toward the entrance to the channel. And he'd say, 'Oh, no, I know where it is.' "

Over the years, Lehner had encountered many doubters. "Yeah, yeah, yeah, you think you sunk it,'' Lehner said people would say. "I said, 'I know we sunk it.' "

It didn't help that Ballard couldn't find it. "I think Ballard thought that when he didn't find it that we didn't sink it," Lehner said.

Wiltshire said the Japanese sub is the most important modern marine archaeological treasure ever found in the Pacific Ocean and, overall, second only to the Titanic in the Atlantic Ocean.

The precise location of the sub has not been released, and there are no plans to raise it, Wiltshire said. The U.S. government has indicated it would like to have the site become a marine sanctuary.

"The federal government wants to protect it where it is," Wiltshire said.

Inside the sub are likely the first casualties of Pearl Harbor.

The Discovery Channel is working on a documentary about the sub and took Lehner down to look at it in October in one of the research laboratory subs.

"I think this is very, very significant for the crew of the Ward because this validates the very accurate information they transmitted to headquarters an hour before the attack began," Wiltshire said. "It's unfortunate that the Ward's report was not heeded.''

More than one hour before the 8 a.m. attack on Pearl Harbor, the commander of the Ward sent this message to headquarters in Honolulu:

"We have attacked, fired upon and dropped depth charges upon submarine operating in defensive sea area."

It was a warning that could have changed history.

"They were absolutely right," Wiltshire said. "They sounded the warning and no one listened."

© 2002, Saint Paul Pioneer Press (St. Paul, Minn.).

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1 posted on 12/08/2002 3:35:30 PM PST by ex-Texan
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To: ex-Texan
Thanks for posting this
2 posted on 12/08/2002 3:38:43 PM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: ex-Texan
I wonder what Ballard says now?
3 posted on 12/08/2002 3:40:35 PM PST by jimtorr
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To: ex-Texan
Cool. Good shooting by the Ward's crew.
4 posted on 12/08/2002 3:44:40 PM PST by csvset
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To: ex-Texan; SAMWolf

5 posted on 12/08/2002 3:50:43 PM PST by csvset
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To: csvset
Pearl Harbor Bump
6 posted on 12/08/2002 4:13:05 PM PST by SAMWolf
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To: ex-Texan
The original testimony:
Submarine Contacts Outside Pearl Harbor, December 7th, 1941

From: Congressional Investigation into the Pearl Harbor Attack, Pt. 36
(Exhibits of the Joint Committee), pp. 55-60.

Testimony of:

Before the Hewitt Inquiry

See Comment #126 USO Canteen FReeper Style ~ Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day Public Law ~ December 7 2002
7 posted on 12/08/2002 4:30:32 PM PST by Wolverine
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To: ex-Texan
Great shootin', Navy. :)

Too bad it took so long to score the target. :(

That sub should be raised and made a part of the Pearl Harbor Memorial, a trophy, with credit to the men of the Ward, who scored the very first U.S. victory of WWII.

8 posted on 12/08/2002 4:38:23 PM PST by LibKill
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To: ex-Texan
After the war ended, the men from the reserve unit formed the First Shot Naval Vets club in St. Paul in 1947 and have met regularly over the years. They helped get the gun from the Ward brought to St. Paul in 1958, where it now sits on the state Capitol grounds next to the Veterans Service Building.

A fitting ending to one of the most meaningful naval sea battles in the history of our republic. Go Navy!

9 posted on 12/08/2002 4:48:16 PM PST by SamKeck
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BUMP for a feisty group of Minnesota men and sailors with a dead eye for subs!

These are the kind of guys ya want to go fishing with .. :-`)
10 posted on 12/08/2002 4:50:20 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: ex-Texan
I heard of this back around August, and downloaded a bunch of really neat photos of the sub taken by the Univ. of Hawaii robot submersable that found it.

Of course, I don't have a clue how to post a graphic on here, and I can't find the URL for the U of H website where I got them - but a search could probably turn them up. I think it is in Honalullu.

The reason I was interested is that a fellow I used to have breakfast with in North Yarmouth, Maine is one of the Pearl Harbor Survivors, and had related how his ship (I think it was the Ward) sank a Jap mini-Sub just outside of the Harbor shortly before the attack.

According to "Burt" Davis, they were returning from a top-secret mission to rescue a US Merchant ship that had been taken hostage, essentially, by the Japanese, and to escort it back to the US base. He says that the mini-subs had been following them all the way from Japan and were under orders to sink the Merchantman "at all costs", it's recapture by the U.S. Navy having caused considerable "loss of face" to the Empire. It was during a last-ditch, suicidal attack by one of the subs that the Ward sank it.

Burt's ship had just begun refueling when the attack hit, and he helped rescue tug crews pull what victims they could from the oily, often burning water, while his Crewmates fought from the deck of the Ward as best they could. The ship was "running on fumes" coming into the harbor after the long-range mission, so making a run for it was not an option. Apparantly the Ward survived the attack and went on to distinguish itself in the Pacific Theater for the rest of the War.

The pictures from the research sub show the two 14" HE torps in the bow, one on top of the other and noses exposed, and shell - hole through the base of the conning tower quite distinctly, and I hope someone who knows how can post the pictures on here.

I have never seen any "official" account which collaborates Burt's story. Sadly, I am told that he is currently suffering from the advanced stages of Alzheimer's and may not be with us much longer.
11 posted on 12/08/2002 5:27:02 PM PST by Uncle Jaque
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To: NormsRevenge
I wish to express a most heartfelt thanks for the men and women that have served and still serve this great country! My father served in Korea, artillery, and though I never was called or enlisted to serve, I would have without regret or hesitation. May God bless each and every one of our service men and women, past and present! (And may God bless you, Dad, we miss you!)
12 posted on 12/08/2002 5:30:46 PM PST by dirtbiker
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To: Uncle Jaque
The photos taken by the University of Hawaii undersea research lab can be viewed at the link below.

Sunken WW II Japanese Midget Submarine

14 posted on 12/08/2002 5:52:26 PM PST by Eagle9
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To: ex-Texan; Tuco-bad; RJayneJ
The one hour advance warning given by the USS Ward should have been plenty of time to recover from Short's short-sighted parking of our aircraft at Pearl (wingtip to wingtip), among other possible defensive manuevers.

Notice that the shell of the USS Ward didn't detonate, either. It physically punched through the midget sub, but didn't explode. We likewise suffered from torpedoes that were set to run at the wrong depth (and those weapons also had trouble detonating - at least at the start of the war).

Kimmel and Short weren't testing their artillery shells and they weren't properly testing their torpedoes. They weren't sending out patrol aircraft and they weren't leaving anti-aircraft batteries manned on weekends.

Kimmel and Short were court-martialed. Their descendents continue to fight their convictions to this very day.

Don't let them win.

Never forget.

Never forget that Kimmel and Short were partying in the hotel ballrooms and socializing with the local women rather than drilling their charges and defending their base.

Kimmel and Short had only been sent to Pearl Harbor in February of 1941, and they were SPECIFICLY sent to Pearl by FDR in order to defend that base from the Japanese.

15 posted on 12/08/2002 6:15:29 PM PST by Southack
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To: ex-Texan
Some of the leftist webpages have a different take on this discovery. They say that it proves the US started WWII, not the Japanese. How anyone can say that in all seriousness is unknown to me.
16 posted on 12/08/2002 6:46:22 PM PST by jim_trent
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To: jim_trent
I have read the same argument too recently. They are by those history revising nuts in Japan.
17 posted on 12/08/2002 6:59:41 PM PST by Fishing-guy
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To: ex-Texan
From the Naval Historical Center website page on USS WARD:

On the morning of 7 December 1944, three years to the day after her Number Three Gun fired the opening shot of the War, she was patrolling off the invasion area when she came under attack by several Japanese aircraft. One bomber made a suicide crash into her hull amidships, bringing the ship to a stop. When the resulting fires could not be controlled, Ward's crew was ordered to abandon ship and she was sunk by gunfire from USS O'Brien (DD-725), whose Commanding Officer, William W. Outerbridge, had been in command of Ward during her action off Pearl Harbor three years before.

18 posted on 12/08/2002 7:44:12 PM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: Southack
I cordially suggest that you read "Day of Deceit" which was researched via FOIA requests. Kimmel and Short were set up.
19 posted on 12/09/2002 8:19:41 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine
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To: Eagle9
Thanks for you efforts in posting this link.
20 posted on 12/09/2002 8:29:44 AM PST by fuzzthatwuz
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