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Passive Smoking Doesn't Cause Cancer - Official
13 November 2002

Posted on 11/13/2002 9:23:09 AM PST by SheLion

UK Sunday Telegraph...
Passive Smoking Doesn't Cause Cancer - Official


Headline: Passive Smoking Doesn't Cause Cancer - Official
Byline: Victoria MacDonald, Health Correspondent
Dateline: March 8, 1998

The world's leading health organization has withheld from publication a study which shows that not only might there be no link between passive smoking and lung cancer but that it could even have a protective effect. The astounding results are set to throw wide open the debate on passive smoking health risks.

The World Health Organization, which commissioned the 12-centre, seven-country European study has failed to make the findings public, and has instead produced only a summary of the results in an internal report. Despite repeated approaches, nobody at the WHO headquarters in Geneva would comment on the findings last week.
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The findings are certain to be an embarrassment to the WHO, which has spent years and vast sums on anti-smoking and anti-tobacco campaigns. The study is one of the largest ever to look at the link between passive smoking - inhaling other people's smoke - and lung cancer, and had been eagerly awaited by medical experts and campaigning groups. Yet the scientists have found that there was no statistical evidence that passive smoking caused lung cancer.

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The research compared 650 lung cancer patients with 1,542 healthy people. It looked at people who were married to smokers, worked with smokers, both worked and were married to smokers, and those who grew up with smokers. The results are consistent with there being no additional risk for a person living or working with a smoker and could be consistent with passive smoke having a protective effect against lung cancer.

The summary, seen by The Sunday Telegraph, also states: "There was no association between lung cancer risk and ETS exposure during childhood." A spokesman for Action on Smoking and Health said the findings "seem rather surprising given the evidence from other major reviews on the subject which have shown a clear association between passive smoking and a number of diseases."
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Dr Chris Proctor, head of science for BAT Industries, the tobacco group, said the findings had to be taken seriously. "If this study cannot find any statistically valid risk you have to ask if there can be any risk at all. "It confirms what we and many other scientists have long believed, that while smoking in public may be annoying to some non-smokers, the science does not show that being around a smoker is a lung-cancer risk."


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To: Gabz
As a public service, the following is posted in order to bring a fresh perspective to this discussion in case any of the posters here have tried to quit smoking and feel bad about the difficulty they have had:

361 posted on 11/14/2002 1:53:20 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: cinFLA
"...the nation WITHOUT legal challenges???????..."

What a turnip. Did you ever hear of slavery? Like how long has man had slavery? Say since the beginning of time. And when did we, in America anyways, end it? Just a little over a hundred years ago. So, in answer, things take time. And it wasn't by law. Liberty is expanded by violence and force against those that would have others do their bidding without their consent. Every ruler has had "law" since the beginning of time. Hitler, Stalin, Mao and even Castro have laws. Law, liberty. Two different words. Two different realities. Wake up. Law is not liberty, and a state full of laws is no proof, at all, of liberty and a free state. Equating law and liberty is pathetic. Furthermore, and you know this, we are not a democratic state, but a republic. And that means that the state is limited in it's powers. Although thanks to your type, who each and every day hand over their liberty to the state, America is becoming a less free nation. Thanks for selling out for a minor friction in the public intercourse, what a hero you are.

362 posted on 11/14/2002 2:08:45 PM PST by Leisler
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To: VRWCmember
Agreed.
363 posted on 11/14/2002 2:09:54 PM PST by Leisler
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To: VRWC_minion
My wife and I sat by her dad's beside while he died from cancer from smoking.

Please post his death certificate proving your assertion.

Eaker

364 posted on 11/14/2002 2:13:14 PM PST by Eaker
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To: cinFLA
You're wrong - you are the one that needs to shut up.

The anti smokers spent nearly $6 million to change the constitution of the state of Florida to remove the rights of certain business owners to permit smoking within the confines of their private property.

In other words those business owners did have the right - and whiney little nico-nazis like you worked your butts off to strip them of their rights.

I'm thrilled you are so proud of yourselves - but calling your self a conservative disgusts me.

365 posted on 11/14/2002 2:14:40 PM PST by Gabz
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To: cinFLA
I don't have a wife - so I can't answer the question - even using my own rules.
366 posted on 11/14/2002 2:18:06 PM PST by Gabz
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To: Eaker
That was a bit crass of you.
367 posted on 11/14/2002 2:23:04 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: Leisler
Furthermore, and you know this, we are not a democratic state, but a republic. And that means that the state is limited in it's powers.

Correct. We elect representatives to go and pass anti-smoking laws. That is the way a republic works.

368 posted on 11/14/2002 2:40:02 PM PST by cinFLA
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To: Gabz
In other words those business owners did have the right - and whiney little nico-nazis like you worked your butts off to strip them of their rights.

If so, please cite the enumeration. If not, then take your not-so-informed opinion of Florida law and stuff it.

369 posted on 11/14/2002 2:42:03 PM PST by cinFLA
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To: Gabz
Still waiting for your yes/no answer!
370 posted on 11/14/2002 2:44:24 PM PST by cinFLA
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To: Gabz
You're wrong - you are the one that needs to shut up. The anti smokers spent nearly $6 million to change the constitution of the state of Florida to remove the rights of certain business owners to permit smoking within the confines of their private property. In other words those business owners did have the right - and whiney little nico-nazis like you worked your butts off to strip them of their rights.

What smoking right? All this proves is that the state has the right to prohibit. That has been my argument all along. Or have you forgotten?

371 posted on 11/14/2002 2:56:11 PM PST by cinFLA
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To: Leisler
A minor distintion. We are a republic, NOT a dictatorship. Your argument fails review.
372 posted on 11/14/2002 2:57:41 PM PST by cinFLA
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To: VRWCmember
You are a little off in your analysis of the 9th and 10th Amendments.

And you, provide NO analysis.

373 posted on 11/14/2002 2:58:34 PM PST by cinFLA
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To: VRWCmember
You make assertions as though they are facts and I simply thought that you could take some time to prove your point for once.

I have never seen a death certificate that has shown the cause of death as cigarette smoking. Since you state this as a fact in his case I thought that his would be the first.

Oh well, guess not.

Eaker

374 posted on 11/14/2002 3:02:37 PM PST by Eaker
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To: Gabz

The anti smokers spent nearly $6 million to change the constitution of the state of Florida to remove the rights of certain business owners to permit smoking within the confines of their private property.

Have you even read the admendment? If so, you would find that you might even agree with some of it.

375 posted on 11/14/2002 3:06:19 PM PST by cinFLA
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To: VRWC_minion; VRWCmember
Whoops, got you two mixed up. Names kinda similar and all.

Eaker

376 posted on 11/14/2002 3:06:36 PM PST by Eaker
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To: SheLion
As a former smoker that HAD to quit I LOVE passive smoke..yes once an addict always an addict...
377 posted on 11/14/2002 3:09:19 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: cinFLA
And you, provide NO analysis

No analysis needed. I stated in plain terms what each of the two amendments in question say. Your suggestion, that the non-enumeration of a right (e.g. property rights) denies that right to the people, is a contradiction of what is stated in the 9th amendment.

378 posted on 11/14/2002 3:17:45 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: Eaker
Confusion understandable. Still, your comment to VRWCminion was crass. How about asking a family member of one of the DC area sniper victims to post a copy of the death certificate proviing that Mohammed and Malvo caused his relative's death.
379 posted on 11/14/2002 3:23:11 PM PST by VRWCmember
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