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To view his slanderous article, go to this link.

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This individual who prompted my reply, Chris P. Bacon, is part of a liberals that run an anti-Freeper web site that basically slanders the Free Republic and despises the idea that conservatives actually have a forum with which to advocate their positions. To view the sleazy equivalent of Mein Kampf, go here.
1 posted on 10/04/2002 11:31:49 AM PDT by Republican_Strategist
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Why is "Chris P. Bacon" on anybody's radar screen but his own, let far alone ours? He deserves no more response than the bum muttering to himself on the steam grate.
2 posted on 10/04/2002 11:39:53 AM PDT by Physicist
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The Right-Left model of politics does not apply to classic liberals, who in the US context consist of conservatives and libertarians.

With NAZIs and Fascists on the Right, and Communists on the Left, classic liberals simply are not part of that continuum. The association of conservatives with the totalitarian right is no more accurate that to associate them with the totalitarian left. US conservatives and libertarians are not totalitarians. We do not fall within that model.

References to conservatives as being "rightist" are simply intended to place an erroneous picture in the mind of the unthinking and unwary. US conservatives are not "right wing". They are not part of the totalitarian continuum.

US liberals, better described as socialists, on the other hand, do fit within that model. Whether they are closer to left or the right depends on the day and the issue, but to the extent that they employ collectivist solutions to social problems, and problems of governance, they clearly are part of the totalitarian model.
3 posted on 10/04/2002 11:46:12 AM PDT by marron
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If you want to whomp him over the head with the American socialist=fascist facts, use this:

"Fascism: A political system in which individual rights may be recognized de jure (though they often are not), but are subjugated to claims of national need or will de facto. In such a system, titular ownership of property may remain in the hands of individuals, while de facto control over property is the exclusive domain of the state. Fascism is generally characterized by extreme authoritarian centralized rule."

Just look at the tobacco companies and Microsoft. Rather than outlaw a harmful product (tobacco), the fascist/socialist state governments basically nationalized the tobacco industry. They can keep running their business, but they have to share major portions of their profits with the government (defacto control has passed to the state).

A similar situation exists with Microsoft. Microsoft did not pay extortionist tribute to the Washington fascist/socialists, so the politicos used "the law" to attack the assets of Microsoft. Once again, the fascist/socialist state governments are in the process of attaching the property of Microsoft. Microsoft can continue to run its own business, but the till will be located in the various state attorneys-general offices. Fascism, pure and simple.

6 posted on 10/04/2002 12:20:44 PM PDT by an amused spectator
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You appear more than capable of responding to this propagandist, but you would be more effective if you would proof read your piece before submitting it.
10 posted on 10/04/2002 1:03:05 PM PDT by Nephi
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For one of the best essays you will ever read, one which addresses the relationship between Liberalism and Fascism, mash here.
13 posted on 10/04/2002 1:37:20 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter
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Sorry to point this out, but I can't pass it up. you mention that only an atheistic bigot would have a problem with the 10 commandments becoming anything more than they already are. well:
Thou shalt have no other gods before me (purely christian)
Thou shalt not worship any graven image (purely christian)
Thou shalt not take God's name in vain (purely christian)
Remember the Sabbath to keep it holy (purely christian)
Honor thy father and thy mother (ok, but how is this "law" enforced again?)
Thou shalt not kill (we've already got that one on the books.)
Thou shalt not commit adultery(ditto)
Thou shalt not steal(ditto)
Thou shalt not bear false witness (ditto)
Thou shalt not covet (ok, but again, not exactly enforcable).

the only reason I point this out is to show that it doesnt take a liberal jerkoff to find fault with the 10 commandment being posted in federal buildings (although they already are)
14 posted on 10/04/2002 1:44:28 PM PDT by whattajoke
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LOL. They got four threads and 16 posts TOTAL. That's 30 seconds of activity on Free Republic, maybe. See ya, losers.
15 posted on 10/04/2002 1:55:54 PM PDT by ffrancone
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HOWDY PARTNER!
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16 posted on 10/04/2002 1:56:10 PM PDT by ffrancone
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Here is your chance to go after some real vermin and stop destroying FR.
17 posted on 10/04/2002 4:51:07 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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Oh look one of the sites reporters is william left wing nut pitt who is scott ritters buddy! hummmmmmm?

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21 posted on 10/04/2002 5:19:56 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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This individual who prompted my reply, Chris P. Bacon, is part of a liberals that run an anti-Freeper web site that basically slanders the Free Republic and despises the idea that conservatives actually have a forum with which to advocate their positions

If Chris can read, perhaps finding a copy of Hayek's The Road to Serfdom would be helpful. He explains the socialism/facism link very well.

23 posted on 10/04/2002 5:33:19 PM PDT by Dianna
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An objective look at Nazi-ism shows it is far closer to modern liberalism than conservatism--

Government control of the free market

Resentment and scapegoating of successful groups for the failures of less successful groups

Hitler was an atheist vegetarian

censoring dissenting political speech

Using undemocratic tactics to win elections

A pursuit of their agenda by any means necessary

Antisemitism

etc.

27 posted on 10/05/2002 7:31:11 AM PDT by republicman
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This site dates are old and nothing pass 2001. looks like a ghost town and does not appear to be maintained.
30 posted on 10/05/2002 11:26:55 AM PDT by jokar
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I do like my bacon crispy. . .
31 posted on 10/05/2002 12:55:07 PM PDT by cricket
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Jacobi, Manse webmaster@freespeech.org and a little digging gives us jacobi@freespeech.org
2945 Center Green Court South
Suite G
Boulder, CO 80301
(303) 442-8060 (FAX) (303) 442-6472

A little more digging leads to:
freespeech TV
indymedia.org
towardfreedom.com
reclaimdemocracy.org
Public Communicators Inc.
thirdworldtraveler.com

...and a whole host of anti-capitalist thugs and superLiberals.

Pay them no mind.




37 posted on 10/05/2002 6:56:38 PM PDT by VaBthang4
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A peculiar link though:

Using the same fax number is this gentleman...

John Schwartz
Denver Area Educ. Telecomm.
303-442-2707
Fax: 303-442-6472
email: schwartz@usa.net

He is an "at large representative" for the The ITFS Association [Instructional Television Fixed Service].

You can read about them here: http://itfs.org/articles/about_itfs.htm

Affiliated with:

AECT - Association for Educational Communications & Technology

National School Board Association

Wireless Communications Association International

Looks like they kicked the anti-freeper site to the curb and went with public and school television instead.



38 posted on 10/05/2002 7:15:40 PM PDT by VaBthang4
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Chris who?
Good grief, man, you've just given this absolute nobody more free publicity than he could ever dream of. I'm sorry to even have to post this, since I truly hope this thread dies quick.

You're not working on his behalf are you?

39 posted on 10/05/2002 7:21:08 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Also using the same fax #:

Resistance
1557 Ninth Street #5
Boulder, CO 80302
Tel: (303) 443-1424
Fax: (303) 442-6472

Whatever that is...

And an Activist Media Project member [Lee Buric] was using the same phone number but I think that thing lost its sails cause I cant find anything else on it.
40 posted on 10/05/2002 7:31:40 PM PDT by VaBthang4
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What a sad little collection of leftism. I believe it is more self-satirizing than insulting to FR...

I still think the best dissection of why Communism and Fascism are different sides of the same coin came from FA Hayek in his earthshaking "The Road To Serfdom", published immediately after WWII.
46 posted on 10/06/2002 11:02:56 PM PDT by Lizard_King
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btt
48 posted on 10/07/2002 1:43:37 AM PDT by Cacique
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