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Immigration Isn't An Issue Says Congressional GOP
Sierra Times ^ | August 22,2002 | Sieera Times

Posted on 08/24/2002 7:56:02 PM PDT by sweetliberty

"The National Republican Congressional Committee has been advising its candidates NOT to mention border security and immigration issues in their speeches or campaign literature," stated Janine Hansen Independent American candidate for Congress Dist. 2 in Nevada. "The shyness of the Republican Party and the Bush Administration about immigration explains why they manifest a deafening silence about Rep. George Gekas’s (R-PA) bill (H.R. 5013) called Securing America’s Future through Enforcement Reform (SAFER)," stated Janine Hansen.

"As an Independent American I support Rep. George Gekas’s bill. Represenative Gekas is the Chairman of the Immigration Subcommittee of the House Judiciary Committee. He will start hearings on his bill next month. This legislation is completely in accord with public opinion polls showing that the big majority of the American people want government to reduce the number of legal immigrants, to stop the irresponsible issuance of visas, to deport illegal aliens, and to use U.S. troops to guard our borders," stated Hansen.

Hansen also stated that House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt (D-MO) announced a Democratic Party plan to introduce legislation to grant amnesty to millions of illegal aliens. Nothing is more unpopular with the voters than amnesty (which Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV) called "sheer lunacy"). She accused both Republicans and Democrats of being out of touch with the grass roots on the immigration issues

"America’s doors have always been open to legal immigrants. Had our immigration laws simply been enforced the tragedy of 9/11 may have been avoided. We cannot afford to pretend that immigration is not an issue. We must secure our boarders and protect the American people whether it is politically correct or not," stated Janine Hansen.

Title I of Rep. Gekas’s Immigration bil called Securing the Border, would increase the number of INS investigators and enforcement personnel, lengthen criminal sentences for alien smuggling, beef up the Border Patrol, and use U.S. military troops until the Border Patrol reaches full strength. It would stop granting visas in countries that refuse to cooperate in combating alien smuggling.

Title II, called Screening Aliens Seeking Admission, would tighten up the visa program in order to reduce the risk of aliens using fraudulent passports, require in-person interviews before issuing all visas, and bar any alien who is a member of a terrorist group or supports terrorism. Most people don't understand why this isn't already the law.

Title III, called Tracking Aliens Present in the United States, would establish a comprehensive entry-exit control system with registration and fingerprinting (which INS has promised for years but never implemented). At least 40 percent of illegal aliens (including several 9/11 terrorists) are visa overstayers.

Title IV, called Removing Alien Terrorists, Criminals, and Human Rights Violators , would authorize INS to deport any alien who was inadmissible in the first place or who we have grounds to believe may be a terrorist. This title would reverse several court decisions that accord unreasonable "rights" to terrorists claiming asylum, and would prevent the courts from releasing criminal aliens into the community.

Title V, called Enhancing Enforcement of the Immigration and Nationality Act in the Interior , would protect Social Security cards against counterfeiting and fraudulent use. This title would increase the number of INS investigators, as repeatedly requested by INS, and double the number of INS detention beds.

Title VI would eliminate excessive review and dilatory and abusive tactics by aliens in deportation proceedings. It would also exclude aliens who knowingly make a false asylum application.

Title VII would clean up the problem of voting by illegal aliens. It would require verification of citizenship for voters and applicants.

Title VIII, called Reforming Legal Immigration, would repeal the infamous Diversity Immigrant Program which admits 50,000 immigrants a year, mostly from the Third World including countries that sponsor terrorism, and which helped the Fourth of July LAX murderer win U.S. residency. It would reform the abuses in the refugee program and in the extended-family visa program, and reduce the number of legal immigrants by 20 percent. This would still leave immigration nearly double the traditional level. INS is unable to cope with its current backlog of five million applications.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; borders; gop; illegals; immigration; security
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To: sweetliberty
Nothing is more unpopular with the voters than amnesty (which Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV) called "sheer lunacy").

Thanks for the ping!! Here are some polls that you might be interested in. Granted they are not scientific but I think they pretty much reflect the attitude of the American public.

POLLS FROM AMERICAN PATROL.

Zogby did a poll about 6 months ago and it came out about 70% against immigration/amnesty and about 30% for immigration/amnesty. The interesting thing about the poll was that the approximately 70% that were opposed to amnesty was split about even between republicans and democrats.

Immigration is going to be an issue in November and in 2004. You can take that to the bank polls.

161 posted on 08/26/2002 2:00:53 PM PDT by Brownie74
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To: sweetliberty
Unfortunately, the National Republican Congressional Campaign Committee has often taken the "no guts," avoid too much exposure, sort of approach. That is why, until the more gutsy "Contract With America," in 1994, the Republicans almost always lost Congress.

The British Conservative Party condemned itself to a landslide defeat in last years' election, because it agreed to keep immigration off the table in the campaign. That decision was as stupid as it was cowardly and unprincipled. There can be nothing more important than the character of your nation. To suggest that it should not even be debated, whom you permit to join your family, as it were, is lunacy, pure and simple. Have the Republicans in Washington all fallen down the Rabbit Hole? Will they be surprised, when we find ourselves replaced by a new party, in a few years?

The only way to save the Republican Party, I suspect, is for those of us who are not afraid of discussing the realities of demographics, ethnicity and history, to speak up and out, loudly and effectively, at every opportunity.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

162 posted on 08/26/2002 2:13:00 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Budge
What you describe is not only "not good," it is totally intolerable. See the traditional definition of a nation--as understood by the Founding Fathers, and men of reason and historic perspective, ever since: Immigration & The American Future.

We need to understand that a nation is not about geography--although most nations of the earth have strong sentimental, as well as legal claims, to geography. A nation is about a people who have a sense of their own common heritage, experience and values. It is about kith and kin, and the geography comes in when people think about the "Land where my fathers died," as in the patriotic song.

In this reality, the individual immigrant who comes over from a foreign land and seeks acceptance into the nation, is obviously no threat. If there is room, and he is seen as acceptable, there is no reason not to accord him--after a time to prove himself--the rights of citizenship.

But the idea of a wave of foreigners, coming not accepting and seeking acceptance, but seeking what wealth and benefits they may acquire for themselves, becoming citizens, is intolerable to those who wish to preserve their own nation. Slandering these latter, as "Nativists" or "xenophobic," will not change the fact that what they advocate is in accordance with all past human understanding. Their slanderers are not statesmen, are not enlightened, and--above all else--are not loyal to their own people.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

163 posted on 08/26/2002 2:27:52 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Jimer
I think that you have a basic grudge against people who like to hang out in libraries.
164 posted on 08/26/2002 4:32:03 PM PDT by Mortimer Snavely
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To: VA Advogado
I would willingly trade some of our lazy citizens for some hard working immigrants.

I'd trade you for a bad case of shingles.

165 posted on 08/26/2002 4:51:31 PM PDT by 7.63Broom
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To: Mortimer Snavely
I think that you have a basic grudge against people who like to hang out in libraries.

No, you don't. Stop kidding yourself.

166 posted on 08/26/2002 5:50:36 PM PDT by Consort
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To: A CA Guy
>>On this one we part ways. The Republicans are cowards on this issue and are about as conservative on this issue as Bill Clinton.

My original comments were to Cacique and had to do with the image of a rino on a t-shirt. Cacique captioned it, "T shirt of the Congressional GOP". I took that as a general statement and not just pertaining to the subject of this thread.

I then said the following:

Ridiculous. You're painting with a very broad brush and being dishonest towards those hard working conservative Republicans's who support and promote the conservative agenda. Let's give credit, where credit is due.

On the subject of immigration, I thought we were in agreement. The federal governemnt must halt all illegal immigration, immediately. I support using the military to help the INS Border Patrol, accomplish this goal. And my Congressmen are opposed to illegal immigration, as is roughly 85%-90% of all American's.

Where did I go wrong?

167 posted on 08/26/2002 9:33:05 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Ohioan
What you describe is not only "not good," it is totally intolerable.

I agree, it is intolerable, especially in the light that their stated goal is to take back the land. Atzlan...Texas, California, in other words, the southwest.

The sad part is, they are doing it, right under our collective noses, and the politicians, save one, do nothing.

168 posted on 08/27/2002 7:51:53 AM PDT by Budge
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To: sarcasm
BTTT
169 posted on 01/04/2003 4:33:09 AM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: madfly
BTTT
170 posted on 06/15/2003 7:16:58 PM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: Uncle Bill
Revisting oldies today, huh Uncle Bill :)
171 posted on 06/15/2003 8:35:11 PM PDT by Sparta (Tagline removed by moderator)
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To: Budge
What word or phrase best describes those in power who are so willing to help with the de-construction of this country in direct violation of their oath of office.
172 posted on 06/15/2003 8:42:58 PM PDT by american spirit (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION = NATIONAL SUICIDE)
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To: Sparta
Well, yes, I guess so, but, well, who can rest? 8-)
173 posted on 06/15/2003 8:49:45 PM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: DSH
Before you make snotty remarks remember the following:

1. You or you family at some point in the past were also immigrants (unless you are an american indian which I somehow doubt) and you are just fortuneate that your boat came over a little sooner.

2. Obviously, you know nothing about immigration law or you would know that it doesn't matter "how hard you work" to become legal you either can or can't which is usually based on if you have enough money to hire expensive attorneys and pay filing fees, and if they were rich... they'd stay in their only country gladly and work there.

ONE LAST THOUGHT: DUH!
175 posted on 09/09/2004 12:22:14 PM PDT by AreUanIndian
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To: VA Advogado

So damn "hardworking" then why are the pits they are leaving such hellholes?


176 posted on 09/09/2004 12:23:50 PM PDT by junta
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To: junta

Uh, try hundreds of years of bad government and see what kind of a pit you'd be living in. We're just lucky that we happened to be born in the land of freedom and... what was it? OPPERTUNITY!


177 posted on 09/09/2004 12:33:14 PM PDT by AreUanIndian
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To: sweetliberty
Does this surprise anyone?

Check out the 2004 Republican Party Platform (Illegal Immigration Plank).

178 posted on 09/09/2004 12:41:56 PM PDT by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: k2blader
Actually, I like it all.....except this part, which is the fatal flaw of the whole plan:

"This new program would allow workers who currently hold jobs to come out of the shadows and to participate legally in America’s economy. It would allow men and women who enter the program to apply for citizenship in the same manner as those who apply from outside the United States."

What will really surprise me is if the other parts are enforced.

"We oppose amnesty because it would have the effect of encouraging illegal immigration and would give an unfair advantage to those who have broken our laws."

I can't understand why they can't see the irony in that statement. Amnesty is amnesty, no matter what you call it and allowing the people to stay who are already here because they broke the laws, IS rewarding lawbreakers.

179 posted on 09/09/2004 5:52:28 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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To: AreUanIndian

Why don't they fix it if they are so "hard working?"


180 posted on 09/10/2004 5:19:48 AM PDT by junta
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