[SheLion]

Paul is a man after my own heart........

And GROUCHO could have had BOTH!

"A woman is only a woman, but a good cigar is a smoke" -- Groucho Marx

Heh!

[SheLion]

It is this: While the city plans to ban smoking entirely in "public" places, a bar, restaurant, pool or bingo hall or casino are not "public" places.

In a free society, such places are called private property.

[dighton]

If Groucho Marx ever said it, he was quoting Rudyard Kipling.

[xJones]

Hitler shot himself in despair at the age of 64.

Oh goody, I get to be the historian cop. Hitler (1889-1945) misplaced a large portion of his brains at the age of 56. Good old Stalin, who's favorite supper was roasted suckling pigs, swilled vodka like there was no tommorow, and was photographed quite often smoking his pipe, unfortunately lived to be be 73, popping off in 1953. You just can't tell about these things. :)

[DonQ]

  First, the quotation about a woman is only a woman is from Kipling, about 60 years before Groucho.

Second, yes, you can find smokers and drinkers who lived to a ripe old age, and health fanatics who died young, but it's worth remembering that Groucho and Churchill were prosperous enough to get the very best medical attention to prevent or cure some of their symptoms, the sort of attention that most of us couldn't afford.

[HELLRAISER II]

I have to admit that I agree with you SheLion, I'd rather have both.

[Just another Joe]

AH yes, a good woman before, and a good cigar after and before again.
Just some of lifes pleasures.

[realpatriot71]

Good genetics can take you quite far it seems. While one is not gauranteed to die a horrible death because they smoke, you're healthier not smoking . . . AHEM . . . What I find disturbing is this growing trend that the government should be able to tell private property owners wether they can have smoking on their own property. No one even seems to care about this out in California anymore. Maybe because it's usually nice outside, so "no biggie". I wish people would be less apathetic about what I see as a disturbing trend, but until the "masses" become concerned what recourse do people who love property rights (and those who love smoking) take.

[SamAdams76]

I never saw George Burns without a cigar in his mouth and he lived to be 100. Bob Hope is no vegetarian and he is probably been overweight all his life and he's up in his 90s too. My grandmother turns 90 this month down in Alabama and every morning for at least 60 years she fried up bacon, eggs and biscuits, using grease from dinner the night before. She also chewed snuff and downs a shot of white lightning before going to to bed every night. They make them tough down in Dixie.

Fact is, we are all going to die of something. Might as well enjoy the things like to do in life.

[maxwell]

Is that a pic of you, She??! DagGONE...

PUFF for the Good Life...

[E Rocc]

That they are not public property where any citizen can freely enter is also evidenced by the fact that Charlie and his fellow bar owners are legally entitled to refuse admission to anyone they do not want in their establishments -- and can throw you out should your behaviour upset them.

What needs to be remembered is the Health Crusaders don't approve of bars, period. We should all be going to community action rallies or prayer meetings (depending on the political orientation of said busybody) instead. People not only consume "bad things" there, they might even :gasp: have fun. Can't have that you know, it's socially counterproductive.

I had to throw a guy out Saturday night for sleeping on the bar. One of these days that might be considered a civil rights violation.

-Eric

[lodwick]

Nice! bttt

[RightWhale]

While the city plans to ban smoking entirely in "public" places, a bar, restaurant, pool or bingo hall or casino are not "public" places.

Nor are shopping malls. Streets are, though unless they are just public access easements and not dedicated rights-of-way. They can ban smoking on the street but not on easements.

[cake_crumb]

"But, I'll give it to Groucho, in a free society an individual should be allowed to make their own choices."

Thank you ...and I would like to ask those of you who even care....

You DO care yes??? WTF IS it you care for besides death and destruction?? You had better care for something....

Trust me...I cannot tell a lie...if we want to turn your town into "a glass parking lot"....we DO have the means