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Smoking study ought to remove lingering doubts/Same old lies, different spin
Press Herald ^ | June 21, 2002

Posted on 06/21/2002 1:49:28 PM PDT by SheLion

The tobacco companies, under siege from individual smokers, state attorneys general, and elected officials seeking ways to raise revenues, have long argued that links between cigarette smoking and disease were supposed by science, but not supported.

That argument ends now.

As a result of the world's first comprehensive evaluation of smoking research since 1986, and undoubtedly the most thorough, health experts have found that tobacco smoke is even more deadly than they had previously thought.

The research, conducted by 29 scientists from 12 countries, demonstrates that one-half of all persistent smokers (who number 1.2 billion people) will eventually be killed by a tobacco-caused disease. These include not just lung cancer, but also cancers of the stomach, liver, cervix and kidney, as well as myeloid leukemia.

Significantly, the study confirms the conclusions of U.S. scientists who have found that secondhand smoke can also cause cancer and other diseases.

Maine has taken previous scientific findings about the health effects of tobacco seriously. It has funded a persuasive media campaign to prevent teen-agers from picking up the habit. The state has also raised the cigarette tax, which has been the most effective way to keep young people from smoking. Finally, it has passed laws to reduce exposure to secondhand smoke by prohibiting cigarette smoking in most public places.

Now, however, it should tackle a more vexing problem - helping tobacco addicts quit. Because some adults have been able to kick the habit through the force of willpower alone, there's little public sympathy for those who are unable to do so. Instead of being seen as victims of a highly addictive and deadly drug, smokers who want to quit but cannot are seen as weak-willed and perhaps deserving of their fate.

That's simply wrong. As the new study suggests, smoking cessation programs will, over the next several decades, present the greatest opportunity to save lives and reduce disease. While it is best never to start smoking, effective cessation programs and addiction treatment will be needed to help many smokers stop. For many of them, it's a matter of life or death.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Culture/Society; Government; US: Maine
KEYWORDS: antismokers; butts; cigarettes; individualliberty; niconazis; prohibitionists; pufflist; smokingbans; tobacco
It's not a new study: just a rehash meta-analysis similar to that done by the EPA in 92. It doesn't prove anything, just adds another brick for their arguments that "evidence" supports their contention.

The propaganda nature of the thing is shown by the fact that they're doing all these press releases when they're not even having the study itself released till sometime in the fall/winter. They're doing it this way so that all sorts of inaccurate information will be spread on speculation about the contents of the study before the study itself is actually made available for analysis.

A good response when this is brought up for now might be to simply ask why, if the study has been done and shows what they claim, then why are they refusing to show the study itself to the public at this time.

(Not my words, but I couldn't have said it any better then this).

1 posted on 06/21/2002 1:49:34 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: *puff_list; Just another Joe; Gabz; Great Dane; Max McGarrity; Tumbleweed_Connection; red-dawg; ...
Same old spin, different wording.
2 posted on 06/21/2002 1:52:39 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: *puff_list; Just another Joe; Gabz; Great Dane; Max McGarrity; Tumbleweed_Connection; red-dawg; ...
"They" know that we are out here fighting for our smoking rights. "They" are running scared!

Smoking hasn't killed any of us in over 40-50 years, so what is so new? eh?

Tell me what is so new. Same old tired words from the health fanatics that do not like the smell of tobacco.

Different tricks to find a way to shoot us.

3 posted on 06/21/2002 1:55:29 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
Should justify a lot of new taxes on the product, and alot of money to the "treatment centers" for us tobacco "drug addicts".
4 posted on 06/21/2002 1:58:42 PM PDT by steve50
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To: steve50
Should justify a lot of new taxes on the product, and alot of money to the "treatment centers" for us tobacco "drug addicts".

steve, you got THAT right! Just another excuse to really stick it to us, by the general public that knows no better.

They sure must be running scared to bring out this tired old report again. I have it on good authority that Maine is going to raise cigarette taxes again, so look for them to really hit us hard. They have to "justify" it, you know.........

5 posted on 06/21/2002 2:03:11 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
Are you really trying to say that there are no health risks involved in smoking??
6 posted on 06/21/2002 2:28:08 PM PDT by chudogg
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To: SheLion
I read where this report was tied to the World Health Organization which means this to be a "scaremonger"report with the underlying agenda of creating (PC)lifestyles.The "enviroschizophrenics"do it,the anti-gun crowd does it,hel* they all do it!

7 posted on 06/21/2002 2:42:35 PM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: INSENSITIVE GUY
Different tune - same old tired words.

The actual report isn't coming out until the fall, so why are the newspapers reporting it as fact already! Makes me burn.

8 posted on 06/21/2002 3:17:19 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: chudogg
No one is saying there are no bad effects from smoking tobacco. What we are saying is that they are long and they strike a minority of smokers.

And we're saying that in a Free republic it's nobody else's f***ing business what we do.

By the way, welcome to Free Republic. Your 30 day free trial at Homestead is up and your pictures don't show.

9 posted on 06/21/2002 4:52:10 PM PDT by metesky
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To: metesky
And we're saying that in a Free republic it's nobody else's f***ing business what we do.

You don't live in a Free Republic. Haven't you figured that out yet?

10 posted on 06/21/2002 4:56:00 PM PDT by Glenn
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To: Glenn
I do, Glenn. Fly low, beat the radar.
;O)
11 posted on 06/21/2002 5:01:03 PM PDT by metesky
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To: metesky
What we are saying is that they are long and they strike a minority of smokers.

Well, uh yes, that too. But what I meant was, they are long term.

12 posted on 06/21/2002 5:04:28 PM PDT by metesky
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To: chudogg
Are you really trying to say that there are no health risks involved in smoking??

Some of us have actually realized that life is full of risks, and haven't been paralyzed by fear over the fact.

Some of us choose quality over quantity and have decided that we would rather enjoy ourselves than live to be 110 years old, wringing our hands the entire way.

It's an attitude thing.

13 posted on 06/21/2002 5:59:38 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: SheLion
Sounds like the EPA cherry picking kind of study, and since they are totally dismissing their own long term study...... why would anyone believe them, LACK OF CREDIBILITY, I say.
14 posted on 06/21/2002 6:31:57 PM PDT by Great Dane
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To: chudogg
Are you really trying to say that there are no health risks involved in smoking??

That is not what SheLion is saying and you know it, but there is risk in everything we do..... leave us to take our choice of risk, and we will leave you to yours.

15 posted on 06/21/2002 6:35:14 PM PDT by Great Dane
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To: chudogg
I don't think that any of us here on FR has said that there are no risks involved in smoking.
We have yet to be shown , by ANY study that has not been discredited, that second hand smoke (SHS or ETS) is harmful to anyone that doesn't have a prior health condition.
And THAT, along with the fact that governments all over the place are starting tax tobacco sky high, is what has most of us smokers here steamed.
The anti-smokers claim all these studies support the fact that SHS kills. Show me the proof.
16 posted on 06/21/2002 8:45:34 PM PDT by Just another Joe
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To: SheLion
Same old spin, different wording.

Good Grief.

One of these days these ________ (fill in the blank)s are going to realize that most intelligent people could not care less what they have to say.

It is just unfortunate that the vast majority of the news media do not fall into the category of intelligent people.

17 posted on 06/22/2002 11:31:55 PM PDT by Gabz
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To: chudogg
Are you really trying to say that there are no health risks involved in smoking??

Wouldn't you like to know WHICH studies they analyzed and which they didn't before you make up your mind how valuable this report may be? Why, I'll lay odds they didn't include their OWN ill-named MONICA study which contradicts this press release. Tell you what, you give me the same amount of money these guys spent on this alleged "study," allow me to choose the research I want to include in my conclusions, let me pick figures out of the air the same way they do, and I'll give you a meta-analysis that PROVES beyond a shadow of a doubt that smoking is GOOD for you. And it will be just as "honest" and rational as this piece of garbage.

FYI, tho, smokers know smoking is a risk and that's all it is. It is not a death sentence; it does not guarantee a horrible early death; it is less important as a risk factor than other things in life and it's our choice whether or not we want to take that risk. Oh, yeah, one more thing: not smoking does not guarantee a long, happy, healthy life any more than smoking guarantees an early death.

18 posted on 06/23/2002 3:13:39 PM PDT by Max McGarrity
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