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Now That Bush Has Sold Us Out... What are we going to do about it? (vanity)

Posted on 03/13/2002 2:47:41 PM PST by Michael2001

Well I'm mad and I'm angry, and maybe that's why I can't think of an appropriate response. While all of us were prasing him for how he was dealing with the war on terror, Bush passes this Amnesty Bill, something that not even the sneaky Bill Clinton would do. This is one of the worse Bills to pass through Congress, it will hurt us in many ways, and ten years from now we will still be feeling it's effects.

Bush has, without a doubt in my mind, sold us out for the Hispanic vote. He sold us out because he can take our vote for granted (who will we vote for Al Gore?). Is he wrong? What do we do when the Republicans stop looking out for our interests? Is it time for a new party, or do we work within the party and try to root out the Republicans In Name Only (of which there are many)?


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To: Jim Robinson
I'm sorry Jim, you're truly one of my favorite people on this earth, but your "they're all we have so let's be pragmatic" postion kind of pisses me off sometimes. We've all (including myself) played that game for years and all it's gotten us is devolution and betrayal.

They all need a big fat foot in their asses.

141 posted on 03/13/2002 3:40:04 PM PST by AAABEST
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To: Patrick
Not only pay but actually think themselves saviors for advancing the fraud in the first place. Yippee, look what we did!
What "new" and "wonderful" liberal-socialist policies will these so called conservatives endorse next? With friends like these...who needs Clinton and Gore?
142 posted on 03/13/2002 3:40:29 PM PST by arimus
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To: EBUCK
Oh, crap. I never considered that the Office of Homeland Sec. would continue after the current admin goes the way of the dodo. Tha's verrrrryyy scarrrryyy. Thanks for giving me an ulcer!

But your position has been that a democrat would be better than Bush. You seem to have a slight problem in thinking this thing through.

143 posted on 03/13/2002 3:40:31 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Michael2001
Why not vote for a third party. Let's see I would be voting for a loser so that another loser (the dems) could take over. Certainly makes sense to me. I heard Hannity address that on his radio show today to someone who called to say there's no difference in the two partys. He listed the war, tax cuts, social security changes under consideration and other items.

Yep I sure see how voting for someone who can't win so that Dashole and company could take over makes complete sense.

144 posted on 03/13/2002 3:40:45 PM PST by billva
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To: dixiechick2000
Hasn't signed it yet? He practically carried it thru the House. Better yet, he has said that he wanted this bill passed before he goes to mexico the 22nd. This is his baby thru and thru.

If there was some motive beyond financial/vote-pandering it's beyond me too. I hope so tho.

EBUCK

145 posted on 03/13/2002 3:40:46 PM PST by EBUCK
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To: go star go
Try reading any article which has discussed the amnesty - the Bush administration was twisting arms on Capitol Hill.
146 posted on 03/13/2002 3:40:47 PM PST by sarcasm
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To: Texasforever; EBUCK
He's right EBUCK, why go downhill at 180mph when you can go downhill at 55mph?

Silly EBUCK! What were you thinking?

149 posted on 03/13/2002 3:42:36 PM PST by arimus
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To: sarcasm
You made a charge. Now prove it.
150 posted on 03/13/2002 3:42:42 PM PST by go star go
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To: Michael2001
Something that you can do right NOW is go to vote.com - they are voting on this issue right now. This site does not allow repeated voting so it has a good reputation and they will send the results to GWB and Congress.
152 posted on 03/13/2002 3:43:23 PM PST by Let's Roll
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To: Michael2001
My initial reaction is to vote for a third party candidate and hope if he gets enough votes, and it causes the Republicans to lose the presidency it will send them a message.

What a stupid statement. You want hillery/gore?

153 posted on 03/13/2002 3:45:10 PM PST by Cannon6
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To: ChareltonHest
Great, with the republicans in office we can now watch our constitution burn slower.

Actually, it seems to burn *faster* with them in office. Sadly. They say (mostly) the right things, but while the "conservatives" go to sleep thinking all is well, The Agenda speeds up. MANY of the most egregious anti-freedom laws have been enacted during Republican administrations and Republican controlled Congresses.

154 posted on 03/13/2002 3:45:19 PM PST by Jefferson Adams
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To: fire and forget
According to a report that I heard, from Mary Madilyn, I think. There are so many here, we don't even know who, where, or how to find them. They have been here for years, and have families here. INS is in such a mess, there is no way to locate them. Let them stay, overhaul INS & immigration laws. I just hope they all will adopt Americanism like our ancestors did.
155 posted on 03/13/2002 3:45:44 PM PST by raisincane
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To: Jim Robinson
We just had a swift kick in the head (and the nuts). Eight long disgusting years of it. You can have it. I'm not about to help re-elect Clinton/Gore.

No one hated Clinton more than me, however, I must say, the economy was better in the last eight years, we didn't have religious freaks slamming our planes into skyscrapers killing thousands, and even Clinton didn't even suggest, let alone grant amnesty to millions of illegal aliens.

Clinton was a socialist screw worm and very offensive, most of us know that. However, having said that, I don't think Clinton is the issue here.

157 posted on 03/13/2002 3:45:58 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: AAABEST
Hah! Yes sirree! Agree with you a hundred percent. But I'm still not going to help re-elect Clinton/Gore. Sorreee.
158 posted on 03/13/2002 3:47:15 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: go star go
Friday, March 08, 2002 - WASHINGTON - Rep. Tom Tancredo takes credit for thwarting the Bush administration's last effort to offer partial amnesty to thousands of illegal residents, but Thursday the outspoken immigration foe said he may have been outmaneuvered by the White House.

President Bush has struck a deal with the House leadership to place legislation that offers an extension of amnesty on its consent calendar before Bush heads to Mexico for a state visit next week, the Colorado Republican said.

That action should ensure quick House passage of legislation that Bush has repeatedly sought from Congress. It would allow an undocumented person to receive legal standing, such as a valid green card, by filing a declaration with the Immigration and Naturalization Service.

It presumably also would require the person to have been in the United States by a certain date and have filed a declaration with the INS from an appropriate sponsor, such as a relative or employer, and pay a $1,000 penalty.

"The terms are still up in the air," said Dan Stein, executive director of the Federation for American Immigration, a group that has been allied with Tancredo. "We've heard to the effect that the president wants something to bring down to Mexico."

The initial Bush proposal, designed exclusively for Mexicans, once was high on the president's legislative wish list, but it was delayed after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11. However, as the president noted Wednesday in a speech to the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, he now is pushing for the extension of the amnesty program known by the section of immigration law that covers it, Section 245I.

The president hailed it as a way to reunite family, separated by the border. "If you believe in family values, if you understand the worth of family and the importance of family, let's get 245I out of the United States Congress and give me a chance to sign it," Bush told the chamber members.

Tancredo, the head of a congressional caucus on immigration issues and proponent of halting virtually all immigration, said he had blocked a previous attempt by Bush to push an extension of the amnesty program through the House. But this time, he said House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., had agreed to place the issue on the suspension, or consent, calendar, making it difficult to defeat the proposal.

The Senate might be more favorable to the bill than the House, expanding the numbers of individuals who can apply, Tancredo said.

159 posted on 03/13/2002 3:48:53 PM PST by sarcasm
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To: Michael2001
It's not blanket amnesty. This is to help out business. I'm all for it.
160 posted on 03/13/2002 3:48:53 PM PST by Texaggie79
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