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Tancredo doubts he can block amnesty-extension bill
Denver Post ^ | March 8, 2002 | Bill McAllister

Posted on 03/08/2002 1:24:33 PM PST by sarcasm

Friday, March 08, 2002 - WASHINGTON - Rep. Tom Tancredo takes credit for thwarting the Bush administration's last effort to offer partial amnesty to thousands of illegal residents, but Thursday the outspoken immigration foe said he may have been outmaneuvered by the White House.

President Bush has struck a deal with the House leadership to place legislation that offers an extension of amnesty on its consent calendar before Bush heads to Mexico for a state visit next week, the Colorado Republican said.

That action should ensure quick House passage of legislation that Bush has repeatedly sought from Congress. It would allow an undocumented person to receive legal standing, such as a valid green card, by filing a declaration with the Immigration and Naturalization Service.

It presumably also would require the person to have been in the United States by a certain date and have filed a declaration with the INS from an appropriate sponsor, such as a relative or employer, and pay a $1,000 penalty.

"The terms are still up in the air," said Dan Stein, executive director of the Federation for American Immigration, a group that has been allied with Tancredo. "We've heard to the effect that the president wants something to bring down to Mexico."

The initial Bush proposal, designed exclusively for Mexicans, once was high on the president's legislative wish list, but it was delayed after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11. However, as the president noted Wednesday in a speech to the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, he now is pushing for the extension of the amnesty program known by the section of immigration law that covers it, Section 245I.

The president hailed it as a way to reunite family, separated by the border. "If you believe in family values, if you understand the worth of family and the importance of family, let's get 245I out of the United States Congress and give me a chance to sign it," Bush told the chamber members.

Tancredo, the head of a congressional caucus on immigration issues and proponent of halting virtually all immigration, said he had blocked a previous attempt by Bush to push an extension of the amnesty program through the House. But this time, he said House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., had agreed to place the issue on the suspension, or consent, calendar, making it difficult to defeat the proposal.

The Senate might be more favorable to the bill than the House, expanding the numbers of individuals who can apply, Tancredo said.


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To: GaConfed
"all this pent up anger is going to explode upon the scene one of these days"

I think it has been building for a long time. And now it seems that things have been shoved down our throats so hard and fast for the past 10 years that we're massively gagging on it! Between political correctness, cries of racism to excuse anything and everything that minorities want to do, and seeing our country being overtaken by aliens in leaps and bounds, something will have to give.

I gauge it by my own personal reaction as well as by what I see here and other places. I am a naturally very tolerant and understanding person with a history of championing the underdog to a fault. I am good at looking at all sides of an issue and seeing the value in all points of view and have a keen sense of both justice and fairness. Over the past couple of years a lot of that has changed. I guess some would say I have lost a lot of my objectivity. I think I'm just fed up....fed up with swallowing blatant violation and degradation of everything that made this country great. I am sick to death of having homosexuality shoved in my face like it was some kind of badge of honor instead of a mark of shame. I am sick of having infantacide called a "right." I am sick of having my religious beliefs targeted as unacceptable while those of others, particularly those of our enemies are not only acceptable but taught in PUBLIC schools. I am sick of racist black bigots calling white people racist every time there is any disagreement. And I am sick of our government ignoring the voice of the people to accomplish it's own agenda at whatever the cost, be it selling our military secrets to the chi-coms or cooperating with illegal immigrants in their self-professed intent to take over part if not all of our country. I am sick of being offended every time I turn around because we dare not risk offending anybody else, even those whose sole purpose in life is to destroy us. I am sick of having our history rewritten by the chronic complainers and whiners who obviously have no understanding of it other than to know that don't like it and therefore it must be changed. I am sick of having the Constitution watered down to just a meaningless collection of words. I am sick of seeing our rights undermined and compromised on every front with ever new and outrageous interpretations of them being unveiled daily, and of course only applying to certain people or groups.

I could go on, but I know you get the point.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it"....Abraham Lincoln

2,701 posted on 03/19/2002 2:58:42 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: flicker; Mudboy Slim; jla
There is NO threat of "giving it to the evil Dems" in this race but we could prove to be a painful splinter the Republicans can not ignore nor take for granted. If we could show anything over 5%, it would label us as a force to be recconed with in close elections in the future...

If you are referring to the Senate race in Virginia, who do we give our more than 5% to?? There is only one candidate on the ballot that I know of and that is RINO Jawn Wahner. Right now I am planning to write in "Ollie North".

2,702 posted on 03/19/2002 7:53:40 PM PST by sultan88
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To: Budge
Excellent! Does this mean Washington might actually be listening?

Washington is definately listening but I don't know how much good it will do. It seems that Fox is on top of Bush and Bush is on top of Congress.

Keep your eye on Monterey in a couple of days.

2,703 posted on 03/20/2002 11:39:42 AM PST by Brownie74
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To: Brownie74;sweetliberty
What I'm seeing from NumbersUSA is encouraging.

A hint about Monterey?

2,704 posted on 03/20/2002 12:51:44 PM PST by Budge
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To: Brownie74
My view on "illegals" doesn't stem from politics; it comes from how they've taken over my small, once-peaceful town. Instead of hiding, they are flaunting their presence and their mastery of schemes to secure false ID's, drive with no insurance, pay no taxes, file no income tax, and a score of other scams. They have learned exactly how to break every local law because they know they won't be caught or deported.

All the while, these people are uneducated, illiterate, and by all appearances uneducable.

I wonder how many hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants just like them will benefit from the passage of 245(i). Would anyone expect them to "change their habits" or their "personal behavior" just because amnesty is granted? They have no desire to contribute to our society, nor any means to do so, because they are simply unskilled, and they don't understand American principles of fairness or ethics.

They live 10 or 12 to small apartments or trailers, and they know that welfare will take care of their emergencies and/or supplement their low-wage jobs, if needed. They invite their aunts, uncles, cousins, nephews (by the hundreds) ~ not to mention friends (by the hundreds) ~ to join them here (also illegally) and have cheered for those who "made it" across the border after 9/11.

These are the kinds of people amnesty rewards, as well as their lifestyles. What could be a greater threat to the higher standards built by Americans which we've come to know and to treasure with pride?

2,705 posted on 03/20/2002 12:54:57 PM PST by HeartbrokenMom
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To: HeartbrokenMom;Budge
Thanks Budge, I'll check Numbers USA. I haven't been over there since yesterday morning.

....they've taken over my small, once-peaceful town.

My heart goes out to you. I know exactly what you mean. As I stated earlier in this thread and on others, we had to reclaim our neighborhood where I live. Every house and apartment building had to be totally remodeled. All of the yards had to be landscaped and trees replanted. And, the rebuilding is going on as I speak. This once nice neighborhood looked like a herd of locust had invaded it.

But the problem isn't solved. The government just moved them and dumped them into someone elses neighborhood. We are fighting a two headed serpent - the illegals and our government that protects and supports them. It just doesn't pay to be a legal citizen anymore.

Hang tough!!

2,706 posted on 03/20/2002 1:27:01 PM PST by Brownie74
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To: HeartbrokenMom;Budge;All
Thanks for the heads up Budge. Number 320 is on it's way to Bush and Ashcroft regarding INS mismanagement.

Everybody please register with NUMBERS USA and send free FAXs to this administration. This is another way we can be counted.

2,707 posted on 03/20/2002 1:45:44 PM PST by Brownie74
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To: Vallandigham
From the way they're talking today, it sounds like it's a done deal. Only now they keep saying it's not amnesty, as if calling it something else makes it so.
2,709 posted on 03/20/2002 4:21:47 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: sweetliberty
From the way they're talking today, it sounds like it's a done deal.

Isn't Byrd still holding this thing up I hope? Let's keep our fingers crossed that politics will gum up the amnesty machine for Bush's tenure. I get the feeling this is just the beginning for him. Sheesh, he's worse than Clinton on this if that's possible.

2,710 posted on 03/20/2002 5:07:39 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Brownie74
Did you see the report today 2 million more from Mexico will come to the US in the next six years? That doesn't even include how many more there will be from all the other countries in the world. Sheer lunacy I say, no other way to describe it. Make me President, the military would close that border yesterday.
2,712 posted on 03/20/2002 5:15:07 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Bush really has a blind spot in this illegal alien mess. I don't think that he's involved in some conspiracy or taking kickbacks or whatever like a lot of our brother FReepers suggest. I think he really believes he is doing a good thing. Just like I think he really believes, at some level anyway, that Islam is a peaceful religion, when nothing could be furthur from the truth. I sure wish he'd wake up and get a grip. But it also looks like he's gonna sign this campaign finance reform too. Personally, I could care less about that one. Oh, I know what they say about it compromising free speech and all. I just haven't followed it real closely. But this amnesty thing has got me really upset. We need to be packing these people off, not rewarding them. All I have to do is walk outdoors to see the effects of loose borders and I DO NOT like what I see.
2,713 posted on 03/20/2002 5:16:41 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: sweetliberty
Yeah cfr can always be fixed in the future, or most likely the Supreme Court will strike down the anti-speech portions of it. But with immigration, once they grant amnesties it's permanent, there's no going back. They're not thinking these things through in Washington, it's all being done for the dollar. Do they want to leave their grandkids a country with 500 million people, possibly living in one that's balkanized and fragmented? I don't know, it looks that way.
2,714 posted on 03/20/2002 5:28:46 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Make me President, the military would close that border yesterday.

You got my vote. You're President!!

CHECK THIS OUT!! Statement by the President: "... I will sign (CFR) into law."

2,715 posted on 03/20/2002 5:31:48 PM PST by Brownie74
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To: Brownie74
He is unbelievable.

The reforms passed today, while flawed in some areas... and blah blah.

Yeah right, it's only Constitutionally flawed, that's all. It violates the First Amendment. Although I'm pretty sure the Supreme Court will strike down the anti-speech parts, Reagan would have vetoed this legislation. And he would have gone on national tv to say why.

Oh well, we've got to go along to get along I guess.

2,716 posted on 03/20/2002 5:39:53 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
And to think this dim bulb is on his way to Monterey, Mexico with 245(i) in his hip pocket. Damn I miss Bubba.
2,717 posted on 03/20/2002 6:11:40 PM PST by Brownie74
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Make me President, the military would close that border yesterday.

Make me your vice president or INS director and there wouldn't be a single illegal alien remaining (at least in one piece) on U.S. soil within 3 weeks of my appointment. Guaranteed.

2,719 posted on 03/20/2002 7:15:04 PM PST by Tancredo Fan
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