Andrew Sullivan: Democrats set out on a suicide mission

The Sunday Times (U.K.) ^ | 03/03/2002 | Andrew Sullivan

[Pokey78]

Ping for the ASPL.

[slimer]

When will we know we have achieved victory?”

When your whining dead beat a$$ is out of politics.

[GraniteStateConservative]

You mean when he dies on the Senate floor giving one of his dementia-induced speeches?

[linn37]

dashole is amused

[PogySailor]

The Dems are treading on some mighty thin ice. Making this statements will come back to haunt them BIG TIME if another attack happens.

[plain talk]

These democrats are like sniveling clueless teenagers. And they wonder why they are consulted?

[ingeborg]

I hate to give Dems ideas. But the line of attack should be on what we are not being told (for example, the bomb in Utah). If things are going on and people find out, it has a deleterious on the economy. Then people stop buying and vacationing and all that consumin' goin' on out there. And that helps the Dems, too. There current line, I think, is not suicidal. They are simply probing to see if Bush is keeping Osama on ice so as to bring him out when it is politically the most profitable.

[duckman]

I saw Maxine Waters on the news last week. She said, not an exact quote, that "Bush was carrying this war thing to far." All I could do was laugh. Quite frankly I felt like puking.

[CatoRenasci]

Well, after the Late Unpleasantness (also known as the War for Southern Independence, the War Between the States, the Civil War or the War of the Rebellion -- depending on where one's ancestors lived), it was a generation before the Democrats regained power, and then only because of support in the South that was more anti-Republican than truely in tune with "Democratic Party" principles. After all, they were known for several generations as the party of "Rum, Romanism and Rebellion"....

[Rustynailww]

"As long as the administration keeps its nerve"...that leaves out lott.

[Amelia]

“We seem to be good at developing entrance strategies, not so good at developing exit strategies,” opined Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia.

Well, I have to agree with him there. We've got troops in Korea, 50 years on, and we're still in Bosnia and Kosovo and.....

[Paul Atreides]

“We seem to be good at developing entrance strategies, not so good at developing exit strategies,” opined Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia.

Cleanup! Cleanup on aisle Demon-gnat!!

[DesertWalker]

Bomb? What bomb? I'm sitting about a mile south of Rice-Eccles Stadium (the Olympic stadium) right now. I didn't hear any bomb except the best fireworks display I've seen in years at the end of the closing ceremonies. And I haven't heard any mention of such a thing from anyone in Salt Lake.

[OldFriend]

Slick willie had an exit policy for Bosnia.......one year......remember that. What lunacy to even suggest that such a thing is possible or desirable.

[engrpat]

I do believe it is fair at this point to ask the democrats the following:

1) Do you agree with Daschle?

2) If you do what would have done different in the war?

3) If you don't are you willing to speak out against Daschle?

[PogySailor]

LOL! I believe you mean the War of Northern Agression

[Amelia]

Slick willie had an exit policy for Bosnia.......one year......remember that.

That's at least part of my point. I didn't hear Byrd or any of the rest of them screaming about us still being there.

[gov_bean_ counter]

One wonders how much longer Bush will put up with Daschle and his obstructionist lies. The kind of parsing done by Daschle on the "the President didn't ask for a floor vote" makes me want to puke. That's like saying to your kids, take the car to the store and get some bread. You go outside 20 minutes later and the car is still in the drive with the kid in it. When asked why they didn't go to the store, the kid replies, "You didn't tell me to start the car". It's infintile. Amazing, simple amazing.

However, it is not as amzing as the Pubbies not realizing the depths to which the Dems would sink to obstruct everything the President wants to do (not just judicial appointments). And make no mistake about it, the President will fight for these people when the Senate Pubbies decide they are ready to fight as well.

[Jhoffa_]

So the Democrats have realised that if they don’t dent Bush’s war leadership, they’re doomed.

You see, this is why I hate politics and almost just tune it out completely.

Washington is all about poll numbers and which head of uber party hydra stands to benefit over this paticular issue or that. The American public is almost never refered to in a way that's the least bit sincere.

Look at CFR.. Instead of hearing about it's Constitutional problems "experts" like Fred Barnes are doing a point by point on which of the two parties will benefit.

It's really dissapointing and may be a key reason why the idea of Term Limits has such broad appeal to Republicans and Democrats alike.