TALIBAN SEXUALLY ENSLAVED WOMEN

New York Post ^ | 2/11/02 | MEGAN TURNER

[kattracks]

February 11, 2002 -- The Taliban routinely abducted beautiful Afghan women as rewards for victory in battle and kept them as sex slaves, it has emerged.

During their six-year reign, the ruling clerics stole women from the Tajik, Uzbek, Hazara and other ethnic minorities they defeated, according to witnesses and officials of the new government interviewed for Time magazine.

[constitutiongirl]

Fairly commom occurence. Ask the non-Muslim women of Sudan or one of the many Coptic Egyptian girls that have been kidnapped, forced into 'marriage', and sometimes circumcised by the 'noble' Muslim warriors.

[VOA]

This could create a tough dilemna for the hand-wringing, feminist types on the left
who are breathlessly decrying the awful treatment of those animals at Gitmo.

I'm on fairly good terms with what I'd call a young feminist lady.
She knows I'm conservative, she knows I know where she stands politically/culturally.

Last week I told her that the National Organization of Women should make Dubya
and our US Military Personnel "Person(s) of The Year" because they'd truly liberated
more women from actual slavery in four months as the NOW probably had liberated in the last 30 years.

She gave me a bit of a scowl, then a bit of a grin.
I took it as a grudging ackwodlegement that there might have at least been a bit
of truth in what I'd said.

[constitutiongirl]

I think it stems from suras 4.24 and 33.50. The Muslim man is allowed to take female slaves in marriage (those whom the 'right hand possesses'). Also,in order to have sexual relations with these women or any woman for that matter, many men enter into a 'Mut'a' which is a temporary marriage. After the affair, the man simply states that he divorces her and sends her on her merry way. As I stated above, this happens often in Sudan, Egypt and even Saudi Arabia (as reported by Philipinos that are returned home afterwards). The women in Sudan are enslaved and frequently the man of the house will repeatedly rape the female legally by proclaiming a Mut'a. It may not be exactly what Mohammed envisioned, but it is practiced.

[SoCal Pubbie]

What's interesting about this whole subject is that about two years ago there was a big campaign by NOW against the Taliban. Jay Leno's wife was a big player in it, if you recall she was a guest on his show (the only time she's been on, I think) just for that purpose. Since 9/11 and the war on terrorism, I haven't heard a peep from them. Funny, aint it?

[constitutiongirl]

Abdullah Yusef Ali translation of the Koran, given to me by a Syrian professor. Sura 33.50 We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses. Sura 4.24 Also (prohibited are) women already married, EXCEPT those whom your right hand possesses.

I didn't say that all Orthodox Muslims would interpret this as 'go-ahead' to capture and rape women...but these are the two Suras pointed out to me by my Syrian aquaintance, and former professor, as the Koranic justification used by Islamist slavers in Sudan and by the Islamists in Egypt that force girls to marry/have sex with them.

[constitutiongirl]

The practice of Mut'a was pointed out to me by Saudi aquaintences. It is practiced in Saudi Arabia, a majority Sunni nation. In fact, nearly all my 'word of mouth' knowledge of life in the ME came from Saudi students and a Saudi I used to work for. Mut'a is probably practiced more among the Al Sa'uds and other influential families (people rich enough to hire Yemeni, Palestenian and Philipino servants) more so than the average Saudi. Most 'average' Saudis cannot afford more than one wife. Only the very rich and very poor can provide equally for 4 families. Granted, the Al Sa'uds are generally disliked by their countrymen for their flaunting of the laws and debauchery in general.

[Mark17]

TALIBAN SEXUALLY ENSLAVED WOMEN

Oh no, say it ain't so Joe, say it ain't so. They wouldn't really do this, would they? Why, yes, I believe they would. What scum bags.

[homeschool mama]

Are you of the Islamic faith?

[constitutiongirl]

I believe Saudi Arabia is 90 to 95% Sunni. There may have been heavier concentrations of other sects before Abdul Aziz retook Riyadh from the Rasheeds and later united it into the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Do you know if the Rasheed clan is Sunni or Shi'ite? Could the closeness of the Al Sa'ud clan and the Al Wahhab clan since the 1700's ensure that only a majority of Sunnis exist in Arabia? I had 2+ years of Middle Eastern studies and over a year of study in Islam. I don't think that they ever intended to portray their native countries in a negative way (can you imagine a Yemeni Jerry Springer). What I have noticed among the Saudis I've known, is a general dislike of the Al Sa'ud family. It seems that an average Saudi will be severely reprimanded by the Mutawwas while the Sa'uds break every rule in the book.

[constitutiongirl]

I'm familiar with the entire Sura (especially 4). I did not say that I think this is the context they should be read. I said that many Islamists use these Suras to justify their behaviour to captured women.

[constitutiongirl]

If the Rasheeds were Shi'ite, that would explain much of the marginalization of other sects. I'll look around and see if they were. Thanks for the reasonable discussion.

[beowolf]

What? they took the ones with the pretty burqas?

[constitutiongirl]

The only thing I've found out is that the Rasheeds were non-Wahhabists (and thus to Al Sa'ud, infidels).

Samir, is this something you can answer for us? Do you know if the Rashidi clan of Arabia was Sunni or Shi'ite?