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A good read.
1 posted on 02/05/2002 5:49:23 AM PST by vannrox
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To: vannrox;Mark War
Bumped. And a ping.
2 posted on 02/05/2002 5:55:04 AM PST by techcor
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To: vannrox
kewl.
4 posted on 02/05/2002 5:59:10 AM PST by Mr. Thorne
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To: ScreamingFist
cool tech bump
5 posted on 02/05/2002 6:00:43 AM PST by freefly
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To: vannrox
Neat - yet one more step towards machines that have no need for humans? They decide we should be removed? Lets all go home and watch good old "Terminator"......
6 posted on 02/05/2002 6:02:50 AM PST by DETAILER
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To: vannrox
That's very interesting! Thanks for the post.
7 posted on 02/05/2002 6:03:08 AM PST by isthisnickcool
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Brings back memories. I led the pre-flight navigation analysis of TSS-1, the first tethered satellite mission.
8 posted on 02/05/2002 6:03:45 AM PST by No Truce With Kings
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To: vannrox
Bump for later read. . .
9 posted on 02/05/2002 6:08:27 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: vannrox; RadioAstronomer; longshadow; PatrickHenry
Thanks for the post! For those of us (like myself) who need a bit more information about how the danged thing works, here's another article:

Science Daily

10 posted on 02/05/2002 6:08:38 AM PST by Scully
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The root problem we've got is that NASA has become a welfare program for space scientists and engineers, and doesn't do enough missions that advance getting hardware in orbit cheaply. There have been any number of concepts deserving study / development money killed for the sake of bureaucratic inertia.

If this can do that, let's hope it doesn't become another one.

11 posted on 02/05/2002 6:08:57 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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Good find! A very interesting mode of propulsion. I'll have to look forward to updates on its performance.
12 posted on 02/05/2002 6:09:14 AM PST by callisto
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To: vannrox
It is indeed cool. The concept was demonstrated during the Shuttle tether experiment. I left the Shuttle program just before that mission, but as I recall, we expected a force on the order of 2 lbs -- which is actually quite a lot for a spacecraft.

What they're talking about here is the use of electricity and the Earth's magnetic field.

However, tethers potentially provide another form of "propulsion," in the sense that the top or bottom ends of the tether are going the "wrong speed" for their altitude -- the system moves at the velocity of the center of mass. You can use the position on the tether to raise or lower an orbit.

If you raise something to the top of the tether and let it go, it's going faster than orbital velocity for that altitude. Letting it go raises the orbit. (Which is what happened to the Tethered Satellite piece after the line broke.)

Likewise for downward -- it's going too slow for the altitude, so letting it go lowers the orbit. (Which is what happened to the Shuttle when the line broke.)

This approach probably works best when you have a massive center structure with tethers extending up and/or down, and relatively light deployables.

13 posted on 02/05/2002 6:11:58 AM PST by r9etb
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Yawn. Good only in near-earth space; develops a mouse-fart of thrust.

Same with tethers. They are only "momentum transfer" devices, providing modest increases in velocity which is given to the payload at the tether's expense...ultimately paid by a small dimunition of the Earth's momentum.

Neither technology will work for boosters or deep-space propulsion. In this sense they are just stupid stunts.

--Boris

15 posted on 02/05/2002 6:21:48 AM PST by boris
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Recommended reading: "Tank Farm Dynamo" by David Brin (short story).
16 posted on 02/05/2002 6:25:38 AM PST by Physicist
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To: vannrox
Bump for a fantastic read.
21 posted on 02/05/2002 6:41:37 AM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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Interesting. I wonder what the principle is behind the thrust.
22 posted on 02/05/2002 7:15:08 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants
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You don't have to be a rocket scientist to appreciate this. This is good stuff. Go USA!
23 posted on 02/05/2002 7:22:34 AM PST by doug from upland
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To: vannrox;space
Space bump.
31 posted on 02/05/2002 12:09:40 PM PST by Brett66
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To: Berosus; blam; Ernest_at_the_Beach; FairOpinion; ValerieUSA; SunkenCiv

Going through some of my old bookmarks. I thought that you would enjoy this.


33 posted on 02/24/2005 1:36:29 PM PST by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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Thanks, vannrox, for the ping.

Kevin, a ping list candidate?


37 posted on 02/24/2005 10:27:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Sunday, February 20, 2005.)
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39 posted on 02/25/2005 6:44:17 AM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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