Posted on 02/02/2002 6:32:51 AM PST by Khepera
Here's what two leaders of the homosexual community wrote in The Overhauling of Straight America:
"...While public opinion is one primary source of mainstream values, religious authority is the other. When conservative churches condemn gays, there are only two things we can do to confound the homophobia of true believers. First, we can use talk to muddy the moral waters. This means publicizing support for gays by more moderate churches, raising theological objections of our own about conservative interpretations of biblical teachings, and exposing hatred and inconsistency. Second, we can undermine the moral authority of homophobic churches by portraying them as antiquated backwaters, badly out of step with the times and with the latest findings of psychology. Against the mighty pull of institutional Religion one must set the mightier draw of Science and Public Opinion (the shield and word of that accursed “secular humanism”). Such an unholy alliance has worked well against churches before, on such topics as divorce and abortion. With enough open talk about the prevalence and acceptability of homosexuality, that alliance can work again here..."
Here's what I asked, and since you apparently need glasses, I'll do you the favor of enlarging the font a little so that you'll be sure to be able to not have the same trouble you had last time. Here are the questions that I did ask:
(Here's a hint: the first three questions boil down to: should we make it a crime to break the Sabbath, whatever a person's choice of day of the week that might be?)
Did you know that the church is the Father's Gift for his only Son? That's how precious you are if you are a believer in Jesus Christ
I still slip up quite a bit, but the difference is I strive to do better. I also try to live a life pleasing to God, as in married, legit job, no drugs or heavy drinking, try to keep chasing other women down to a minumum kidding
No I'm not holding any public office or running for one, just another surfer trying to make a living
When we remember that homosexuals comprise only 2% of the population, the math then shows them to be 50 times as likely to commit this crime, when compared to heterosexuals. And what if we use the 10% figure, favored by the homosexual community? Then they're only 40 times more likely to offend.
But don't let the facts confuse you or change you opinion.
That is the BIG ORIGINAL LIE that homosexuals have managed to perpetrate and successfully perpetuate.
THAT THEY REPRESET 10% OF THE POPULATION OF THE UNITED STATES.
And the Media have accepted this HUGE LIE in TOTO, and have chosen to accept and continue to base all successive lies and assertions upon it. Quite successfully, I might add.
Don't forget that it all goes back to the homosexual named Kinsey who spawned these lies way back in the fifties and sixties, and his totally made-up data are still quoted with a "straight" face by all and sundry on the Left, as well as 90% of the media. To take exception to it is to brand yourself as a nasty, "homophobic" (What a stupid, jackleg, pseudo intellectual term!) Nazi.
NEVER FORGET!! FEMALE HOMOSEXUALS REPRESENT LESS THAN .06 PERCENT OF THE POPULATION.
MALE HOMOSEXUALS REPRESENT SOMETHING UNDER 1.27 PERCENT OF THE POPULATION.
Once you understand this, you'll be able to understand why they're able to get away with the lie that they do not go after, predate and seduce minors at a higher rate than the "straight" pedophiles do.
REMEMBER: If the number of reported homosexual pedophilia cases are set over against homosexuals' ACTUAL numbers in the population, then you are faced with a HUGE incidence of this crime on their part, many, many times greater than the number of straights attacking and seducing minors.
And this is based on the reported cases of In other words folks, our Leftist Pravda machine, the networks, the NY Times, and all of them, have successfully created a fictional world wherein the homosexual is a good citizen and it's the mean-spirited and paranoid "straights," ie the 98.xx% who are the rest of us, who are the bigoted, insensitive villians.
No civilization can endure this kind of twistedness and survive, and we won't survive it either, at least not in our present state. I suppose the lesson is that the Devil has a permenant case of insomnia. He never sleeps. All the best,
Homosexuals and heterosexuals who stick to adults should be left alone.
I'm not into collectivist smearing.
This doesn't mean a Christian is 80 times more likely to commit murder.
From ABOUTgladd -- A BRIEF INTRODUCTION TO GLAAD:
"...GLAAD's impact on the media is far-reaching. Not only has GLAAD changed the way that gays and lesbians are portrayed on the screen and in the news, GLAAD has also become a major source of information for decision makers in both the entertainment and news media. In 1992, Entertainment Weekly named GLAAD as one of Hollywood's most powerful entities and The Los Angeles Times described the group as possibly the most successful organizations lobbying the media for inclusion. GLAAD has not only reached industry insiders, but has also impacted millions through newspapers, magazines, motion pictures, television and visibility campaigns..."
...GLAAD was formed in New York in 1985 and began by protesting The New York Post's blatantly offensive and sensationalized stories about AIDS..."
...In the beginning, battles were hard-fought. It wasn't until 1987, after a meeting with GLAAD, that the New York Times changed its editorial policy to use the word "gay."..."
...In 1994, the New York and Los Angeles chapters merged to form a national organization that would allow GLAAD not only to continue its work with the major news and entertainment media, but would also allow it to work with more local media across the country through the creation of Media Resource Centers..."
In pursuit of its mission, GLAAD focuses on five main strategies:
2. To work directly with media professionals to improve their understanding of the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community by providing accurate information and offering seminars as part of the Outreach to Media Professionals program...
4. To promote lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender Visibility by designing and implementing public education campaigns with positive lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender images..."
Again, from The Overhauling of Straight America:
"...A large-scale media campaign will be required in order to change the image of gays in America. And any campaign to accomplish this turnaround should do six things.
(1) Talk about gays and gayness as loudly and as often as possible. The principle behind this advice is simple: almost any behavior begins to look normal if you are exposed to enough of it at close quarters and among your acquaintances. The acceptability of the new behavior will ultimately hinge on the number of one’s fellows doing it or accepting it. One may be offended by its novelty at first -- many, in times past, were momentarily scandalized by “streaking,” eating goldfish, and premarital sex. But as long as Joe Sixpack feels little pressure to perform likewise, and as long as the behavior in question presents little threat to his physical and financial security, he soon gets used to it and life goes on. The skeptic may still shake his head and think “people are crazy these days,” but over time his objections are likely to become more reflective, more philosophical, less emotional.
The way to benumb raw sensitivities about homosexuality is to have a lot of people talk a great deal about the subject in a neutral or supportive way. Open and frank talk makes the subject seem less furtive, alien, and sinful, more above-board. Constant talk builds the impression that the public opinion is at least divided on the subject, and that a sizable segment accepts or even practices homosexuality. Even rancorous debates between opponents and defenders serve the purpose of desensitization so long as “respectable” gays are front and center to make their own pitch. The main thing is to talk about gayness until the issue becomes thoroughly tiresome.
And when we say talk about homosexuality, we mean just that. In the early stages of any campaign to reach straight America, the masses should not be shocked and repelled by premature exposure to homosexual behavior itself. Instead, the imagery of sex should be downplayed and gay rights should be reduced to an abstract social question as much as possible. First let the camel get his nose inside the tent -- and only later his unsightly derriere!..."
"...In no time, a skillful and clever media campaign could have the gay community looking like the veritable fairy godmother to Western Civilization..."
"[Legalizing prostitution and lowering the age of consent are] coming if liberaltarianism [sic] and liberalism are defeated."
From your earlier posts, I take it would would prefer the defeat of libertarianism and liberalism...but why would that be if, according to you, they are what are keeping prostitution from being legalizeed and the age of consent lowered? You don't favor legal prostitution and a lowered age of consent, do you?
Also, I'm not sure what the statistics you cite mean. If 70% of all criminals in prison were high on drugs when they committed their crimes, maybe the police should favor drug use because high criminals act stupidly and get caught...and if people high on drugs commit 26-29% of all murders, that means sober people commit 71-74% of all murders. I'm not sure whom I should fear more. :-)
Libertarians should favor all four of those things being legal. Biblical principles say that all four should not be legal.
It's 1984 in Massachusetts – And Big Brother Is Gay By John Haskins
Mary Clossey's children see no American flags at school to remind them that it is their safety that young men are risking their lives to defend. Rather, her daughter and other pupils are filed into an auditorium to hear a speaker liken the U.S. military to terrorists. For years the Newton, Mass., public schools have blithely violated a Massachusetts law that the flag be on display in every classroom. On the other hand, there are many flags on display if you count rainbow flags that symbolize a "gay-friendly" environment.
When Clossey enrolled her son in Newton North High School's reading program little did she know that the teacher had bragged in the Boston Globe (July 8, 2001) of quietly introducing homosexual and transsexual subjects into his classes. The teacher, Michael Kozuch, handed out The Perks of Being a Wallflower by Stephen Chbosky with instructions to write an essay on it. What literary "treats" did Kozuch consider mandatory for other people's children? Sex between a boy and a dog, man-boy sex, anal sex between boys, male masturbation and female masturbation with a hot dog.
By chance Clossey opened the book her son brought home. But what came after that shock was worse: She encountered public officials who saw protective parents as obstacles. Clossey called her mayor. He never called back. Calling school officials, she says she encountered "arrogant disrespect for parents." So she filed a criminal complaint against the teacher for corrupting a minor. Even Boston's hard-line pro-homosexuality newspapers and TV stations couldn't sit on this. But the complaint went nowhere. It emerged that Kozuch was not acting alone. The book was on a reading list given to every student. Urged by other furious parents, Clossey went to the local prosecutor. But the receptionist had been warned to expect her, according to Clossey. She waited and waited, but was not allowed to speak to her district attorney.
After parents discovered the book, Newton North High School educators removed it from class discussion but refused to remove it from the reading list.
Alert parents already knew the high-school language department, on one pretext or another, had showed Ma Vie en Rose, an R-rated film about a "homosexual" child. Pupils learned how "Ludo enjoys being a girl. Borrowing mommy's red high heels, her lipstick, her earrings … yummy!" Trouble is, 7-year-old Ludo is a boy, even if he is pretty in pink.
Freshmen learn about masturbation and sodomy in a required course that uses street language, as if proper vocabulary would ruin the educational experience. A large mural in a corridor depicts two girls holding hands, reading something called "Romea and Juliet."
Is Newton a rogue town? In nearby Brookline a transsexual told first-graders how his penis was cut off and he became a woman. With no sense of irony, the Globe called it "sex-change counseling." Parents, never notified, had to comfort their terrified children. Ashland children were instructed to play homosexuals in a skit. As reported in the Middlesex News on April 1, 1994, one boy's line was: "It's natural to be attracted to the same sex." Girls were told to hold hands and pretend they were lesbians. As reported widely in Massachusetts in 1992, at a required assembly in Chelmsford, an instructor used four-letter words describing the joys of anal and oral sex. The children then licked condoms.
Framingham pupils found themselves answering this Orwellian questionnaire: "1. What do you think caused your heterosexuality? 2. When did you first decide you were heterosexual? 3. Is it possible heterosexuality is a phase you will grow out of? 4. Is it possible you are heterosexual because you fear the same sex? 5. If you have never slept with anyone of the same sex, how do you know you wouldn't prefer it? Is it possible you merely need a good gay experience? 6. To whom have you disclosed your heterosexuality? How did they react? 7. Why are heterosexuals so blatant, always making a spectacle of their heterosexuality? Why can't they just be who they are and not flaunt their sexuality by kissing in public, wearing wedding rings, etc.?"
In Lexington, a parent discovered that her 13-year-old could borrow a book telling how gay men at the opera can socialize with "the backs of their trousers discreetly parted so they could experience a little extra pleasure while viewing the spectacle on stage." Her school purchased it with health funds.
A prominent psychiatrist says the sex-ed curricula at these schools can lower children "to the level of animals" and inflict lasting harm. "Massachusetts schools' systematic promotion of homosexuality and promiscuity fosters sexual confusion and experimentation," says Nathaniel S. Lehrman, former clinical director of the Kingsboro Psychiatric Center in New York. "They dilute and trivialize [the capacity for] faithful sexual passion which should [later] be the cement of these children's marriages. Unstable youngsters may become particularly vulnerable to homosexuals who actively recruit them."
There are teachers all over North America quietly mainstreaming homosexual behavior to children as young as 5 years old. As widely reported, on "Gay Days" classes are cancelled and students led to compulsory activities where homosexuals explain their "lifestyles." The mind-control techniques are straight from Soviet schools. Officials often confront parents who express anger, telling each parent, "You're the only one who complained." The implied message: "It would be unconstitutional to teach Judeo-Christian morality. So we're obliged to teach its polar opposite." Samuel Blumenfeld, a much-published author on education, says many school superintendents implicitly assert "that children (are) owned by the state." Compelling evidence from Massachusetts:
Silver Lake's freshman health text says: "Testing your ability to function sexually and give pleasure to another person may be less threatening in the early teens with people of your own sex." And, "You may come to the conclusion that growing up means rejecting the values of your parents." Pupils were ordered to keep the book at school and never take it home. Needham High School violated the parents'-rights law by concealing from parents a schoolwide assembly in which a girl described her first lesbian kiss and rhapsodized about lesbianism. Teachers continued the discussion in homeroom. They also broke the law by failing to tell pupils of their right not to attend. Later, the gay club's faculty adviser announced, in poor English, that parents' decisions to remove their children next year would not be honored, as the "assembly (taught no) moral or religious beliefs."
After a "Homophobia Week" of mandatory assemblies in Beverly, a 14-year-old told her father he was a "homophobe." She had learned that homosexuals have a right to marry and adopt children. Parents were not notified. A boy wrote to a local paper: "I felt disturbed and nauseated. I witnessed biased testimonies by gays and the public mocking of a priest in our auditorium." A Beverly parent removed a child after discovering the content of a four-day "sexual-harassment" program that replaced algebra. The teacher encouraged the pupil to come back, saying, "Your parents don't have to know." In Manomet, a health instructor passed out material that an eighth-grader said violated his parents' beliefs. "If you have any trouble with your parents, tell me and I'll handle them," the instructor replied. A Newton principal refused to remove children from the condom-distribution program, telling their parents, "It's too important."
Local media cover such stories reluctantly, with headlines such as "Local Mother Angered by Sex Ed." They treat not the provocation, but the reaction, as newsworthy. Imagine this back-page headline informing the public of Watergate: "Partisan Democrats Criticize White House." In the July 8, 2001 Globe article headlined "More schools tackling gay issues," Kozuch discussed his efforts to use schools to shape children's views of homosexuality under the radar screen of parents. "It's low key," he said. "The point is that we want to treat (bisexual, homosexual and transsexual) issues in a way that's matter of course."
Giving gay pornography to other people's children didn't used to be called "treating issues," say critics. And who told schools to "tackle" anal sex? "Where the radical homosexual movement is gaining control of curricula the citizenry must stop schools' systematic sabotage of children's moral development," says Lehrman, former chairman of the Task Force on Religion and Mental Health of the New York Federation of Jewish Philanthropies. Some militant homosexuals increasingly feel "called' into teaching the way other people are called to be missionaries. "Tolerance" programs claiming to support gay children (gay children?) provide cover for introducing obscene material and guiding troubled pupils toward homosexuality.
The self-righteous comments of some educators suggest they see innocence as a thing to crush. A child not knowing about sodomy, they feel, is a thing to be corrected. Every child has a right and a need to know what homosexuals do to each other's bodies — and be told it is equivalent to Mommy and Daddy's marriage. "Leave no child behind."
Blumenfeld wrote of the 19th-century establishment of Massachusetts' universal state education that fierce resistance by parents and voters was overcome only by a solemn oath by the state to confine itself to academic matters. The right of parents to guide the moral training of their children was guaranteed. But that was back when children belonged to their parents.
Clossey got a letter from the district attorney informing her that Massachusetts schools, libraries and museums are immune from laws against exposing children to pornography. It's time to make it a federal felony to crush the innocence of children, with punishments trebled for "educators." John Haskins is executive director of the Parents' Rights Coalition (www.parentsrightscoalition.org). E-mail him at john@parentsrightscoalition.org. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
However, it is wise to keep in mind, that in one of the Scriptures talking about homosexuals to be punished by God, cowards are included in the same sentence. . . None of us have grounds to be arrogant or haughty toward homosexuals.
All of us need to walk in humility with repentant hearts and forgiveness toward all Christ died for. Certainly their lives are horrid enough in their loneliness, isolation, disease, one night stands etc.
Oh, I know, they like to talk about long term relationships. And I'm willing to allow that some exist. But the percentages are extremely bleak even on that score.
I wonder how many Christians castegating homosexuals would be willing to follow Christ to the Cross in behalf of homosexuals. I haven't met many. Until we can have that kind of Calvary Love, I question how much right we have to be vain glorious and haughty or even condescending toward them.
Your post had many things quite accurate, per my view and understanding.
Blessings,
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