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Democrats.com hijacks WND (and FreeRepublic)
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Posted on 01/31/2002 9:46:27 PM PST by gutehaad

Democrats 'hijack'WND website

Party dot-comers label national columnists 'rightwing nutcases'

By Joe Kovacs

(C) 2002 WorldNetDaily.com

A website run by Democrats is "hijacking" a number of other sites – including WorldNetDaily.com – in a "spin-control" campaign that some feel is derogatory.

Democrats.com is using the address rightwingnutcases.com to bring readers to WorldNetDaily's page that lists commentaries written by former presidential candidate Pat Buchanan, now a columnist for WND.

"Patrick Buchanan has won the right to send people to www.rightwingnutcases.com to find his extremist commentaries," declares the site, which is operated by Democratic activists, but has no formal connection to the Democratic National Committee. "Since Pat has now left the Republican Party for being too moderate, how much longer until he renounces his American citizenship and seeks asylum in Paraguay?"

Buchanan, who in addition to writing columns is also selling a new book, "The Death of the West", says his political opponents are apparently returning to a familiar strategy.

"Devoid of ideas themselves, leftist Democrats have taken to the old name-calling and smear tactics, interfering with speakers and writers, that they perfected when they were all wallowing in the mud of Woodstock in 1969," Buchanan told WorldNetDaily. "Where conservatives gave us Ronald Reagan and victory in the Cold War, these folks gave us Bill and Monica and the soiling of the White House. As they have nothing to say themselves, they can only attract attention by interfering with and attacking others who do have ideas."

No one with Democrats.com responded to repeated inquires from WND, but the site explains its intent on one of its pages:

"Democrats.com is proud to announce a major new achievement in our ongoing effort to recapture the English language from reactionary forces who would hijack it. Today we are releasing version 1.0 of our exclusive new Spin Control Machine. The Spin Control Machine makes it possible to relabel websites that misrepresent themselves. This has become urgent since the events of September 11th, since it is now commonplace for the extreme right to try to appropriate the language of patriotism and claim exclusive proprietorship of the words indicating a love of America. ... Congratulations for setting new lows and shame on all of you for testing the limits of tolerance."

It goes on to list what it calls "crazy conservative zealots," creating hyperlinks to relabeled addresses, among them:

Bill O'Reilly at rightwingvitriol.com

Ann Coulter at rightwingcrazies.com

FreeRepublic.com at rightwingnuts.com

BushCountry.org at rightwingloonies.com

ConservativeHQ.com at rightwingfruitcakes.com

"We've been framed!" was the initial reaction at ConservativeHQ.com, according to its Internet consultant, William Greene. His site has since inserted a code to break out of the framing by Democrats.com, but staff are nonetheless enjoying the attention and view the label as a badge of honor.

"We must really be making a difference in the fight against liberalism if Democrats.com does something silly like this," Greene said.

Some Web surfers might confuse Democrats.com with the official site of the Democratic National Committee, as their addresses differ only in suffix. The DNC's homepage is Democrats.org. The DNC refused comment about what Democrats.com was doing, except to say, "We have no control over this website."

Although names of the people responsible for Democrats.com appear nowhere on the site, a public-records search of registrants indicates the domain name has an administrative contact of David Lytel of the Sherpa Consulting Group in Syracuse, N.Y.

The site says of Fox News host Bill O'Reilly, "Only an idiot would believe he's fair and balanced," to which O'Reilly replies, "These fanatical websites are popping up all over the place, both on the left and the right. Some are well-financed [such as Slate.com and TomPaine.com], but all of them are fringe outlets. I ignore them as most of America does."

Ann Coulter, another weekly columnist for WND, doesn't appear bothered by the rightwingcrazies.com label.

"I'm delighted Democrats are reading my column!" she said. "I just hope their lips don't get tired."

But not everyone is thrilled about the relabeled hyperlinks. WorldNetDaily's Editor and CEO Joseph Farah feels it's a clear violation of Internet etiquette and thinks it will make many people angry.

"What should we expect from people who describe themselves, apparently proudly, as Democratic activists?" Farah asked. "If ever there was a philosophically bankrupt political party, devoid of values and virtue, bereft of ideas and without a moral center of gravity, it is the party of Bill, Hillary and Carville and company."

Etiquette is one principle, but law is another, and hyperlinking to other websites by creating another domain name doesn't appear to be illegal. That according to Brian Marcus, an intellectual-property lawyer in San Francisco. He says there's no problem as long as "they're not passing off someone else's information as their own."

"As far as 'right-wing crazies,' I think that's First Amendment and protected free speech," Marcus said. "If I were to have a link to knuckleheads.com and have a link to your website, that is in essence protected free speech."

Because the Internet is relatively new compared to other media such as newspapers and broadcast stations, there's not a plethora of existing laws governing it. But some standards were spelled out in the Digitial Millennium Copyright Act, considered a hot potato by many involved with copyright law, according to Dr. Robert Diotalevi, director of legal studies at Mountain State University in West Virginia.

"Some claim the DMCA would hinder concepts of fair use and other acceptable means of validly utilizing copyrighted materials," wrote Diotalevi. He states others believe it "stifles operation, free thought, expression, system corrections, etc."

President Clinton signed the measure in October 1998, saying, "This bill will extend intellectual protection into the digital era while preserving fair use and limiting infringement liability for providers of basic communication services."

Despite the state of the law on the matter, the notion that one website would purposefully create derogatory domain names for others still leaves WND's Farah amazed, especially when it comes to Democrats.com.

"They have no imagination of their own, so all they can think of doing is to rip off and deface the ideas of others," Farah said. "They can't debate. They can't stand toe to toe with people of principle. They are like a desperate band of


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To: lowbridge
I hope he keeps it. Free publicity for the site

I agree totally. Anybody that really knows marketing would NEVER send someone to a competitors place. Can you imagine a FORD dealer sending a customer over to the Chevy dealer to make fun of him? Democrats are morons; they forget basic strategy when trying to be funny. Too much for them to handle at one time, like chewing gum while walking.

They can't carry our jocks when it comes to humor OR political debate.

81 posted on 02/01/2002 12:13:24 AM PST by jrewingjr
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To: Timesink
Agreed. An insult from the likes of these is a compliment.
82 posted on 02/01/2002 12:14:57 AM PST by Rubber Duckie
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To: Pissed Off Janitor
um... I don't think I do either. Probably would be pointless since its easily undone. And wiping the site clean could get you into real trouble... best thing is probably to ignore it.
84 posted on 02/01/2002 12:43:15 AM PST by GeronL
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To: gutehaad
Now............who cares? The only way anyone can link to FreeRepublic, et al., is to type in those silly URL's. The only people who know the silly URL's are the juvenile Left. Like kids in a dark closet, they'll giggle at their inanity and smirk in solitude whenever their keyboards direct them to real discussion sites. The Left is truly pathetic.
85 posted on 02/01/2002 1:43:27 AM PST by Thumper1960
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To: gutehaad
"I'm delighted Democrats are reading my column!" she said. "I just hope their lips don't get tired."

Now THAT'S compasionate conservatism!

LOL!

Quote of the day bump!

86 posted on 02/01/2002 1:46:29 AM PST by Caipirabob
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To: gutehaad
LOL!
87 posted on 02/01/2002 1:55:34 AM PST by ppaul
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To: gutehaad
Demoncraps dot-com is connected with David Lytel of Sherpa Consulting Group, SYRACUSE, NY. Now isn't THAT fascinating. Syracuse happens to be the small upstate NY city where DNC bigsht Terry McAwful grew up and got started in Demoncrap politics. He's involved--I guarantee it.
89 posted on 02/01/2002 2:01:58 AM PST by D2BAH
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To: D2BAH
Lytel, David (DL666) david@LYTEL.COM
Sherpa Consulting Group
5 Brattle Road
Syracuse, NY 13203-2803
315-234-0101 (FAX) 315-234-0102

Pretty appropriate NIC handle, wouldn't you say?

90 posted on 02/01/2002 2:23:08 AM PST by Jaxter
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To: gutehaad
It's a dumb prank, as others have suggested. The bogus contact information used to register the sites is not a big deal either -- some registrars may pay attention if it were brought to their attention, but otherwise it's not going to raise eyebrows. It's common. If you raise a fuss, the registrar may ask them to give the correct info.

Here's the real problem, and I haven't heard it mentioned yet: The bogus names can be submitted to search engines and, depending on the search engine, the bogus name will be spidered and handled as if it were the real thing. When that happens, search engine results with "rightwingnuts.com" will show up in the same searches that give results for freerepublic.com.

That's malicious, and that's the thing that should concern people when this sort of IP pointing or "stealth redirection."

If you want action on this, your best shot is with whatever service these people are using to redirect the site. Democrats.com's registrar offers the redirection as a part of their standard registration package.

That's where you go. Bring a complaint to them specifying the malicious motive and the problem of search engines cataloguing the freerepublic site under the bogus name. Even if they haven't done the latter yet, once they do, it can take months to correct.

91 posted on 02/01/2002 2:24:48 AM PST by Harp
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To: ridensm
agreed - nice to see you posting, btw.
92 posted on 02/01/2002 2:30:52 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: JohnRob; Jim Robinson
ping for the redirect/search engine issue mentioned in #91
93 posted on 02/01/2002 2:42:25 AM PST by Harp
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To: gutehaad
Great News!!!!!! The RATS must be getting desperate:-) I just love this!
94 posted on 02/01/2002 2:50:52 AM PST by jokemoke
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To: gutehaad
"Since Pat has now left the Republican Party for being too moderate, how much longer until he renounces his American citizenship and seeks asylum in Paraguay?"

Actually, I couldn't have put it better myself.

95 posted on 02/01/2002 2:57:00 AM PST by Illbay
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To: ozzymandus
If "name-calling" is such a heinous thing, shouldn't we be looking in the mirror?
96 posted on 02/01/2002 2:58:19 AM PST by Illbay
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To: TLBSHOW
Geez, what a dork!
97 posted on 02/01/2002 2:59:06 AM PST by jokemoke
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To: Pissed Off Janitor
12 million? try more like upwards of 30 million. No exact figure is known. His attempt at liquidating the Kulaks in the late 1920's alone caused more than 20 million deaths through starvation and outright execution. 25 million died in world war II most at the hands of the nazis, many however were sent to their deaths because Smersh squads of the NKVD saw to it that no-one retreated in combat. We are not even counting the countless millions that died in the gulag system between the end of WW II and his death in 1953.

Numerically Stalin outdid even Hitler as a mass murderer. The only difference is Hitler targeted people because of their ethnic backgrounds. Stalin was not so choosy.

98 posted on 02/01/2002 3:02:54 AM PST by Cacique
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To: Timesink
In case you have not heard or read, an FYI to all: G. Gordon L. was on a mission concieved by John Dean to remove pictures of his pretty new wife Maureen from the desk drawer in the target office-she was a very 'professional' person, formerly employed by the DNC to engage visiting VIPs & Mr. Dean wished no one else to know. He snookered BOTH his superiors & inferiors-Liddy had no idea-he thought he was on a political 'mission' & one of the Cuban operatives was actually sent by Dean on the REAL mission. Read the book 'Silent Coup' & learn about the real deal. Liddy has had Dean in court repeatedly to extract some measure of justice.
99 posted on 02/01/2002 3:07:01 AM PST by TEXICAN II
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To: Harp
I am getting a blocked cookie report on www.democrats.com/billme/jpg !!! Just from posting & reaing this thread!!!
100 posted on 02/01/2002 3:11:33 AM PST by TEXICAN II
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