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Democrats.com hijacks WND (and FreeRepublic)
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Posted on 01/31/2002 9:46:27 PM PST by gutehaad

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To: sweetliberty
thats true. but a few discreet word and story changes on their site could be funny.
61 posted on 01/31/2002 11:02:14 PM PST by GeronL
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To: TLBSHOW
You are a wealth of info, my sweet.
62 posted on 01/31/2002 11:03:57 PM PST by katykelly
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To: hubel458
www.stupidvoters.com has been redirected to the www.democrats.com site.

www.minorityparty.com has been redirected to the main www.dnc.org site.
63 posted on 01/31/2002 11:04:33 PM PST by Republican_Strategist
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To: gutehaad
Well, as an ex Stalinist I can see there are some people on the left that apparently are too intelectually lazy to read the proper manuals. What these untwitting idiots are doing is sending people who would not otherwise be exposed to the intellectual superiority of conservatives and constituionalists and to read our writings.

I suppose that they think it funny and charming, but how many exposed to rational arguments will make the decision to switch sides? Only time will tell. I say let them keep sending people over. For the brain dead it will not matter, but for some who as Chruchil once described as having acquired brains, it may force those brains to actually think, and once they do, it's all over for the dimwitcrats.

64 posted on 01/31/2002 11:09:42 PM PST by Cacique
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To: katykelly

fraudulent phone contact info given with registration

MARXIST THUGGERY ON THE INTERNET

DEMOCRATS .COM IS THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY

By: Phil Brennan

posted August 26, 2001

There is a website mistakenly called democrats.com (it should be .con)- run by a gaggle of Marxist thugs who could have taught Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels a thing or two about political slander.

A visit to their website is something akin to stepping into a cesspool - on emerging one feels soiled and filled with revulsion. I'm not easily shocked - I lived through years of Marxist propaganda emanating from the bowels of 3 Dzerzinski Square, KGB headquarters in Moscow which turned out slanderous lies about the Kremlin's anti-communist foes - but one of democrats.con's latest assaults on the truth astounded me.

Here it is in all its enormity:

"Bush White House Rolls Out the Red Carpet for Neo-Naziesque 'FReeper' Group"

"Bush has made it all but impossible for anyone who disagrees with him to get within a mile of the White House. But now we find he gave a cozy special welcome to a large party of so-called FReepers (short for Free Republic). These folks are, essentially, one step on the food chain above Neo-Nazis, and often just as vicious. They are the ones responsible for a high % of the especially nasty (i.e, unprintable here), even threatening e-mails to folks who express opinions they don't like on Internet forums (we've gotten some pretty horrendous FReeper mail here at Dems, believe me!). They are bigoted, paranoid, and very pro-gun - not a very nice combination. Yet these are the folks given a big ole warm southern (Confederate?) welcome by the White House. So, when can we expect the formation of the "Bush Youth" movement?"

Let's dissect that masterpiece of Goebbelian nonsense line by line:

1. Bush has made it impossible for anyone who disagrees with him to get within a mile of the White House -

How is it that comrades Daschle & Gephardt and other members of the Democrat Socialist party pay regular visits to the White House? As fervent advocates of socialist dogma they disagree with the President almost always.

2. But now we find that he gave a cozy special welcome to a large party of so-called FReepers (short for Free Republic).

He did no such thing. He couldn't. He was on his ranch in Texas on August 18th, the day members of the D.C. chapter of Free Republic were given a tour of the Executive Mansion.

Moreover, President Bush had nothing to do with the visit of these good people. They were given a tour arranged by Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga) - the kind of tour members of Congress routinely arrange for constituents and other friendly groups.

3. These folks are, essentially, one step on the food chain above Neo-Nazis, and often just as vicious.

What was that about vicious? Freepers are the kind of concerned patriots who made this nation, fought its wars, and are dedicated to preserving our liberty in the face of the Marxist onslaught now led by the Democrat Socialist party.

They are the loyal Americans who are fans of the Free Republic website which allows members to post their opinions and encourages them to voice their opinions in a forum that permits politically incorrect thought (meaning anti-Marxism) to be aired in an era when the socialist U.S. mainstream media goes to great lengths to silence it.

One apparent reason why the thugs at democrats.com have it in for the Free Republic group is the fact that the Freepers have researched the origins of the website and broadcast information the backers of democrats.com would just as soon not see the light of day.

4. They are the ones responsible for a high % of the especially nasty (i.e, unprintable here), even threatening e-mails to folks who express opinions they don't like on Internet forums (we've gotten some pretty horrendous FReeper mail here at Dems, believe me!).

Translation: They send e-mail protesting the slime posted on democrats.com.

5. They are bigoted, paranoid, and very pro-gun - not a very nice combination. Yet these are the folks given a big ole warm southern (Confederate?) welcome by the White House.

My God - they support the Second Amendment right of self-defense? What could they be thinking? They were given no more of a greeting than any of the other congressionally-sponsored tour groups who visited the White House that day.

6. So, when can we expect the formation of the "Bush Youth" movement?

In other words, the Bush White House is one step away from talking a page from the Hitler Youth Movement - did I see something about being vicious?

The Democrat party whose cause these slimeballs champion is for all intents and purposes a national socialist party - it's impossible to differentiate between the goals of socialism and those of the national Democrat party - a whole slew of top members of Congress, for example, belong to the so-called Progressive Caucus - an arm of the Democratic Socialists of America.

Keep that in mind when you read such tripe as "These folks are, essentially, one step on the food chain above Neo-Nazis, and often just as vicious." or "So, when can we expect the formation of the "Bush Youth" movement?"

For what is essentially a socialist group to compare the President of the United States, and a group of patriotic Americans to Nazi thugs is to overlook the fact that the Nazi party was a socialist organization - National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP, called, for short, Nazi).

A socialist organization - just like the current National Democrat Socialist Elite Party which backs the Democrats.com website.

Just who are these people?

I am indebted to a dogged researcher (not a freeper) who has done a bang-up job of digging into the slimepit that calls itself democrats.com. What follows is part of his research results.

"Democrats.com has long denied any affiliation with the Democrat Party and has stated so when soliciting contributions for political activism. But the record suggests that Democrats.com is closely affiliated with the Democrat party through several high level Democrat party insiders and a purported business relationship. It is further evident that Democrats.com participated in and solicited donations for several "independent" efforts benefiting Al Gore during the Florida recounts, all this despite it's close relationship with the Democrat party and what also appears to be a relationship of some degree - informally if not formally - with the Gore campaign itself...

"Through a lengthy search of the Democrats.com website, WHOIS domain name searches, and Democrats.com news releases, I have identified the following Democratic party and Clinton official insiders to be involved in Democrats.com in a leadership capacity. Democrats.com has long presented itself to the media and the public as unaffiliated with the DNC and Democrat leadership. Similarly, the DNC has also denied affiliation with Democrats.com

But Democrats.com's board of directors demonstrates that this claim is not very truthful. The fact is, Democrats.com is operated by high level DNC insiders, former Clinton Administration officials, and former Al Gore for President campaign officials. Democrats.com also boasts in the deeper pages of its website about a strong business connection with the DNC and the campaign websites of Democrat congressmen..."

David Lytel - Webmaster for the Clinton Whitehouse (formerly at www.whitehouse.gov). Lytel served in the Clinton Administration from 1993 until 1996 as the Whitehouse webmaster and as a writer for Al Gore. Lytel's profile on the Democrats.com "members only" portion of the site (it is accessible by password after you join Democrats.com) touts his Whitehouse website as being called "easily one of the best sites on the Net" by the webzine Hotwired ... Lytel currently is involved in the Sherpa Consulting Group of Syracuse, NY.

Greg Simon - Former Gore Domestic Policy advisor in the office of the Vice President. Simon was also Gore's chief campaign strategist during his 2000 Presidential bid and post election recount. Simon was a part of the Gore campaign's "inner circle" along with Bill Daley and Donna Brazille.

Arkansas native Simon's background includes having worked for Gore as his chief domestic policy advisor during the Clinton administration, and then as a lobbyist for several technology companies including the domain registry firm Network Solutions Inc (“Gore's lobbyist contributors reap access.” Boston Globe, 1/26/00). ... He presently heads up Simon Strategies Inc., a D.C. technology consulting firm. Simon has also served on the advisory board of Politics.com

Simon was the honored speaker at a Democrats.com event hosted during the Democrat National Convention in Los Angeles last year. His profile on Democrats.com's "members only" section notes that Simon "serves as an informal advisor to the Gore campaign." Aside from demonstrating that (1) Simon tends to stretch the truth - he was a lot more than a mere "informal advisor" and (2) Simon hasn't updated his biography since his candidate lost, this site also shows that Simon was a part of Democrats.com in some capacity at the same time he was working on the Gore campaign. Whether he was on the board of directors at the time of the campaign is unknown, but it appears to be highly likely. Simon is certainly on the board of directors for Democrats.com now and has been since the first I knew of Democrats.com early last March.

Jim Buie - Buie is an ex-reporter and the founder of Internet Democrats, the predecessor site of Democrats.com. Internet Democrats also ran an organization called Friends of Hillary, which set up state chapters to support Hillary Clinton. Though I have been unable to find much information on this organization (which now has been incorporated to Democrats.com), I believe it is behind a recent internet rumor that suggests Hillary Clinton is the real force behind Democrats.com. Again, I have not verified the Hillary Clinton rumor, but it could have a connection to "Friends of Hillary" through Buie ...

Jonathan P. "Jock" Gill - A former Clinton Administration official who served as Director of Special Projects in the Office of Media Affairs. Gill worked on the 1992 Clinton/Gore campaign as one of their technology experts. He is currently a frequent article author on Democrats.com and runs Penfield-Gill Inc. a media consulting firm used by, among others, Simon Strategies of Greg Simon.

Stan Greenberg - The Al Gore for President campaign's chief pollster and all around DNC insider. Aside from the Gore campaign, Greenberg was used as a pollster by Bill Clinton during his early Whitehouse term (the two apparently split paths after the 1994 Republican takeover of congress). Greenberg is also the husband of prominent Democrat rep. Rosa DeLauro [editor's note: A member of the above-mentioned progressive Caucus]. Greenberg's work as a pollster/consultant includes Democrats Bill Clinton, Al Gore, Chris Dodd, Jeff Bingaman, Walter Mondale, and Joseph Lieberman, not to mention the Democratic National Committee. Greenberg is often considered the foremost Democrat pollster in the business.

Dick Bell - Bell is the former Interactive Media Director of the DNC and currently works for Worldwatch Institute a left wing environmentalist organization. Bell's background in the Democrat party goes all the way back to 1984 when he worked on John Kerry's senate race. Bell worked for the DSCC (Democrat Senatorial Campaign Committee) as an opposition researcher for Democrat challenger campaigns. Bell also helped create the DNC website

Bob Fertik - Founder of the 501(c)4 feminist group Women Leaders Online. Fertik is also involved in the Eleanor's List Fund, which recruits pro-abortion Democrat women candidates in New York. It is rumored that Fertik is involved in a group called Democrats for Choice. He was a consultant to Geraldine Ferrarro's NY senate bid in 1998 against Chuck Schumer in the primary. Fertik also has some sort of connection with a reported umbrella group for left wing "non-profit" organizations called I-progress, which he runs out of a New York City post office box (PO Box 20594, New York , NY 10021), which also happens to be the same post office box used by the 501(c)4 Women Leaders Online AND by Democrats.com...

Personnel is not the only direct tie between Democrats.com and the Democrat party. As was noted, Democrats.com reports itself to have extensive direct business relations with the DNC and other Democrat party institutions.

DNC - According to Democrats.com's own website, Democrats.com is the "exclusive vendor of Internet services for the Democratic National Committee's online store.

DCCC - According to Democrats.com's own website the "Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee selected Democrats.com for... building and hosting a secure Intranet for House campaign managers." They also list "Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee/Take Back the House" as one of their customers.

Democrats.com claims on its website to have hosted the websites of several dozen congressional campaigns.

In researching Democrats.com, I have identified at least eleven separate domain names that are owned and used by Democrats.com through domain registration WHOIS searches. I have noted each domain, who it is registered to, date of registry, contact, site that it links to, and any unusual characteristics surrounding it. Most of these domain names were set up for individual political causes, which seem to operate under the umbrella of Democrats.com. There could easily be more than those I have listed, and in fact I believe there to be more as I keep stumbling across new ones. Please note that many of these domain names are registered at the same P.O. box that is used by a non-profit 501(c)4 feminist group called Women Leaders Online.

www.democrats.com Registered to: David Lytel, Sherpa Consulting (Syracuse, NY) Domain record created on: 2-28-2000 Phone contact: 315-234-0101 Purpose: Democrats.com home page

www.bushcoup.com

Registered to: David Lytel, Democrats.com PO Box 20594 (New York, NY) Domain record created on: 11-01-2000 (6 days BEFORE the election) Phone contact: 123-456-7890 Purpose: Website claiming Bush stole the election (formatted in an extremely similar manner to several other sites owned by Democrats.com) Notes: obviously fraudulent phone contact info given with registration. Notice that Lytel registered the domain name on November 1st, 6 days before the election and long before anybody knew who was going to win. This suggests the website was created to as a preparation tool to attack Bush's legitimacy if and when he won the presidency a week later. Recall that Gore campaign strategists were prepared for the event that there would be a contested election before election day, and quickly mobilized in Florida within a day of the election.

www.trustthepeople.com Registered to: David Lytel, Democrats.com PO Box 20594 (New York, NY) Domain record created on: 11-08-2000 (the day after the election) Phone contact: 123-456-7890 Purpose: To advocate pro-Gore recounts and litigation efforts in Florida, and to solicit contributions to further promote pro-Gore efforts in Florida. Notes: obviously fraudulent phone contact info given with registration. The date this website was registered is also peculiar and suggests possible insider knowledge of a long, drawn out election contest. Recall that on the day after the election, most political pundits still thought that the election would be settled by the automatic recount expected to conclude later that week. Only as the end of the automatic recount approached was there any indication that election contests would continue for another month.

www.justiceinflorida.com Registered to: David Lytel, Democrats.com PO Box 20594 (New York, NY) Domain record created on: 11-29-2000 Phone contact: 123-456-7890 Purpose: To solicit contributions for and promote the infamous Seminole County absentee ballot lawsuit. Notes: obviously fraudulent phone contact info given with registration.

www.gorewonflorida.org Registered to: David Lytel, Democrats.com PO Box 20594 (New York, NY) Domain record created on: 01-12-2001 Phone contact: 123-456-7890 Purpose: Website claiming that Gore won Florida Notes: obviously fraudulent phone contact info given with registration

www.funeralgate.org Registered to: David Lytel, Democrats.com PO Box 20594 (New York, NY) Domain record created on: 02-08-2001 Phone contact: 123-456-7890 Purpose: Democrats.com website about a Bush "scandal" based upon a wrongful termination lawsuit filed by the former state treasurer of the Democratic Party of Texas, who was fired from her job with the state government after one of the workers under her complained she was using him to research Bush's campaign finance reports from his gubernatorial race. Notes: obviously fraudulent phone contact info given with registration

www.rightwingnuts.com Registered to: Democrats.com PO Box 20594 (New York, NY) Domain record created on: 04-14-2000 Phone contact: 123-456-7890 Purpose: Redirect URL to the conservative website www.freerepublic.com Notes: obviously fraudulent phone contact info given with registration

www.rightwingfruitcakes.com Registered to: Democrats.com PO Box 20594 (New York, NY) Domain record created on: 04-14-2000 Phone contact: 123-456-7890 Purpose: Redirect URL to the conservative website www.conservativehq.com Notes: obviously fraudulent phone contact info given with registration

www.bushabortion.com Registered to: David Lytel, Democrats.com PO Box 20594 (New York, NY) Domain record created on: 10-21-2000 Phone contact: 123-456-7890 Purpose: Website repeating Larry Flynt's unsubstantiated accusation about an illegal abortion in Texas involving Bush during the 1970's Notes: obviously fraudulent phone contact info given with registration

www.ashcroftlied.com Registered to: David Lytel, Democrats.com PO Box 20594 (New York, NY) Domain record created on: 01-11-2001 Phone contact: 123-456-7890 Purpose: Website opposing John Ashcroft's nomination as attorney general Notes: obviously fraudulent phone contact info given with registration

www.smokingjet.com Registered to: David Lytel, Democrats.com PO Box 20594 (New York, NY) Domain record created on: 10-06-2000 Phone contact: 123-456-7890 Purpose: Website alleging that Bush failed to complete his air national guard service Notes: obviously fraudulent phone contact info given with registration

And this is only part of the story of this bunch of socialist malcontents who continue to question the legitimacy of George W. Bush's presidency.

This, by the way, is the same disreputable outfit that insists against all the evidence that Florida Gov. Jeb Bush is involved in an adulterous affair with a member of his administration - a rumor even the most ardent anti-Bush journalists scorn as a disgusting and outright falsehood.

Democrats.com is the Democrat Party - and just reading the filth and distortions it publishes says more about that party than its most dedicated foes could say.

http://www.restoringamerica.org/archive/guested/democrats_con.html

65 posted on 01/31/2002 11:11:41 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Republican_Strategist
Well, I ca see we have a few dimwits on our side as well.

Why direct people to their sites? especially if they are weak minded and have not been exposed to both sides of an argument?

66 posted on 01/31/2002 11:12:32 PM PST by Cacique
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To: gutehaad
Bill O'Reilly at rightwingvitriol.com

FreeRepublic.com at rightwingnuts.com

BushCountry.org at rightwingloonies.com

ConservativeHQ.com at rightwingfruitcakes.com

All newly bookmarked....thanks Democrats.com.

67 posted on 01/31/2002 11:14:35 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: gutehaad
Check out www.stupidvoters.com.
68 posted on 01/31/2002 11:18:56 PM PST by SunStar
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To: Cacique
Well your simply the pseudo-intellectual type. Its nothing more that a silly little gimmick. I think you’re being a bit condescending and your use of “dimwits” sort of seems hypocritical.
69 posted on 01/31/2002 11:19:48 PM PST by Republican_Strategist
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To: gutehaad
LOL Children will be children!
70 posted on 01/31/2002 11:30:20 PM PST by brat
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To: gutehaad
We sure let em have it this time...ehhhh Dave!!!


71 posted on 01/31/2002 11:34:11 PM PST by AmerRepb
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To: nocommies
ROFL...What! You're not Irish? LOL
72 posted on 01/31/2002 11:35:33 PM PST by brat
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To: gutehaad
If these guys want an internet war, fine with me... we own the internet.

Democrats.com is proud to announce a major new achievement in our ongoing effort to recapture the English language from reactionary forces who would hijack it.

In otherwards, shift the center to the extreme by defining the extreme as the center, in order to redefine those formerly at the center as now being at the extreme. Of course, who elected them to define the definitions?

So Terry, how DID you turn 100,000 into 18 million?

73 posted on 01/31/2002 11:41:11 PM PST by Free Vulcan
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To: Mr. Buzzcut
Hell yeah!

I am a mean-spirited right-wing nut. I appear in Democrat nightmares as a tall Caucasian Gurkha.

74 posted on 01/31/2002 11:42:07 PM PST by jrewingjr
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To: Republican_Strategist
There is nothing "pseudo" about my intellect. The opposition views politics as war, and rightly so. If assassination was legal and they could get away with it, they would use it as they see it as a legitimate tactic. I do not view it as a silly little game. I view it as a deadly serious enterprise. Behind the high school antics of their lower level cadres are some nasty and ruthless people devoid of any sentimentalist notions of fair play or compassion and it is foolish to take them lightly or engage them on that level.

I have been on both sides of the fence and I can assure you that you underestimate these people at your peril. At some point someone will point out to them the error of their tactics. I see no need to imitate their idiocy.

When and if we start to realize that in their minds eye they would want us all dead if they could achieve that end. Then we will finally wake up to the seriousness of the threat these people pose. The utopian left massacred well over 150 million people in the last century alone. It isn't the idealistic misled minions on the ground that we should be worried about, but the wolves who appear in sheep's clothing who don't show their faces and lie there waiting to pounce that are the dangerous ones.

Politics is a deadly serious game, a war fought sometimes with tanks and bullets and sometimes with ideas. In the end however, to lose against the left means heavy casualties in one form or another.

75 posted on 01/31/2002 11:46:48 PM PST by Cacique
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To: lowbridge; doctor raoul; starfan
What, they kiss the computer screen too everytime her picture comes up?

. Is that a bad thing??

77 posted on 01/31/2002 11:52:31 PM PST by RaceBannon
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To: Cacique
You are 100% correct. They want us dead.
78 posted on 01/31/2002 11:53:44 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: jrewingjr
I am a mean-spirited right-wing nut. I appear in Democrat nightmares as a tall Caucasian Gurkha.

Heh, heh. democracts know we have the guns. Like Ann Coulter said "I hope their lips don't get tired reading."

79 posted on 01/31/2002 11:56:28 PM PST by quimby
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To: LeroyHampshire
Welcome aboard and Savage will be number 1 like you said. Funny you bring him up as I heard him for the first time this week. You will have to check out my Radio Show here at Radio FR

Past Radio Free Republic show archives

80 posted on 02/01/2002 12:03:11 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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