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Frankly, I'm surprised this story isn't all over the place. 1.2 million users just sitting around picking their noses?
1 posted on 01/05/2002 9:47:05 PM PST by Registered (Registered@aol.com)
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Oh, here's a great link to eBayers that are picking their noses waiting for Photopoint news...
2 posted on 01/05/2002 9:49:15 PM PST by Registered
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The safety and integrity of our members’ photos has always been, and will continue to be, our number one priority."

Of course, even your number one priority is meaningless if you go out of business.

4 posted on 01/05/2002 9:55:07 PM PST by Timesink
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“We’re still probably three, four years away from where digital cameras will outsell film.

Well, on the one hand, I'm ahead of my time.

On the other hand, I've been had.

Maybe some day some nice, kind person will tell me how to upload my pictures to my Road Runner web site (she sez, in her best Blanche DeBuis accent.)

"I've always depended on the kindness of strangers."

6 posted on 01/05/2002 10:02:57 PM PST by Howlin
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NO ACCOUNTABILITY ON THE INTERNET: Reason Number 73 why the Net PC was another one of Larry Ellison's bad ideas!
12 posted on 01/05/2002 10:28:42 PM PST by Skibane
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Then again, there's always Photoisland.com.

 

13 posted on 01/05/2002 10:39:00 PM PST by Tennessee_Bob
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One panicked user told him every photo he’d taken of his toddler was stored on Photopoint.

What a maroon.

Has it occurred to anybody besides me that paper is as close to permanent as we know it for photographic purposes but digital is is only as good as the technological standard? When was the last time anybody broke out their Super 8 movie projector? That was 25 years ago. How many people still have turntables that work? RLL hard drives and first generation IDE went away 10 years ago. People act like computers have been around forever when I remember multitasking with Desqview under DOS 3.1 and Windoze is effectively a whole 8 years old. Anybody wanna guess on how long current digital storage technology lasts?

16 posted on 01/05/2002 10:58:48 PM PST by agitator
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Try Ofoto at ofoto.com. It's run by Kodak (lots of opportunities to buy prints) so it should be the last one standing, it's free and apparently no mb limit. I've got 19 albums there, one with 162 images and another one with 138. It provides a decent way to share photos with friends and family.

I store my images on my hard disk and a Zip disk as well. Hope to get them on a CDRW someday.

18 posted on 01/05/2002 11:13:38 PM PST by Uncle Sausage
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PhotoPoint Still MIA, Epson's PhotoCenter Knocked Out
 
by Michael Bartlett

PhotoPoint.com, a popular but troubled picture-sharing Web site, has been offline for a week. Parent company Pantellic Software's Web site also is down, and this week, Pantellic took Epson's PhotoCenter site down with it.

PhotoPoint went out of business in July and was acquired by Pantellic - a company that builds online photo services for businesses and was the original creator of PhotoPoint. Pantellic purchased PhotoPoint from Sherwood Partners, a crisis management firm that was liquidating PhotoPoint's assets.

Neither company could be reached for comment on this story.

Keith Kratzberg, the director of photo imaging at Epson, said his company launched its PhotoCenter in April, with PhotoPoint as its third-party vendor "powering" the site. Because of PhotoPoint's troubles, Epson switched to Pantellic in July, he said.

Even before Pantellic went dark last Friday, Epson was preparing for the eventuality that it would have to take its photo-sharing site in-house, he said. On Wednesday, Epson decided to turn off the site in order to preserve the photos customers already had stored.

"With a site like this, you hate to go dark for any period," said Kratzberg. "We were prepared to go in-house, but it happened more suddenly than expected. But when we could see that Pantellic could no longer support our site, it was more important to keep our members' photo albums intact, rather than try to maximize the time we were up."

The people who paid money to put their images online are upset with PhotoPoint for disappearing without a trace. Many of these former customers vented their ire on the F--kedcompany site this week.

An individual posting under the handle, "wddbear," wrote, "I have over 950 photos stored there, and they better find a way for me to get them. I paid for a full year and some of those pictures cannot be replaced. I smell a lawsuit coming."

Another customer, "gladIpaid," wrote, "Glad I just paid for more space. Goodbye $60.00. No notice, no replies to customer concerns, no information for paying customers, no parent site - not even a splashpage telling us we're f--ked."

In a later post, "gladIpaid" added, "Well, although I do have copies of all my photos, when I think about the hours that went into photoshopping them and all the caption information I lost, it makes me mad."

Wendell Evans, a freelance journalist based in Philadelphia, Pa., and a former PhotoPoint customer, told Newsbytes the loss of caption information is the most galling part of the situation to him.

Evans said he had about 350 photos, letters and newspaper clips on the PhotoPoint system. He is preparing a book on his family's migration across the United States dating back several generations. Through his research, he has discovered 500 living relatives, and gathered numerous pictures and documents.

"PhotoPoint was a gathering point, a way to involve all those people," said Evans. "Now, all of those images have vanished into the ether for all I know. It is not so much a loss of money, but it is a loss of convenience and time."

Evans said he will have to re-upload 350 items, and recreate the descriptions.

"The biggest problem is the captions. They only existed on the PhotoPoint Web site," he said. "I have the information, but I will have to go back through my notes and reunite each photo with the notes. That is a huge loss of time. I am not back to square one, but I am back to square four."

One F--kedcompany poster who identified him or herself as "Tannis" and said he or she was a former PhotoPoint employee, defended the company. Tannis wrote, "businesses succeed, businesses fail, businesses face challenges that most customers never have the opportunity to grasp the concept of just exactly what went wrong."

"I am confident that if at all possible, PhotoPoint will be back online, and if not, they will make every attempt possible to ensure their users get the opportunity to (retrieve) their photos," Tannis added.

Even if that turns out to be true, Evans said he still is upset about the way the company handled things.

"It is incredible. I am really annoyed they disappeared without an e-mail or anything," he said. "They could have told us, 'hey, the business didn't work.' It is the deception that bothers me. They don't even return phone calls. They belong in the cybersleaze hall of fame."

Photopoint.com used to be at http://www.photopoint.com .

Pantellic Software used to be at http://www.pantellic.com .


25 posted on 01/06/2002 12:53:38 AM PST by stlnative
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Another dot.com bankruptsy scam I suppose.
29 posted on 01/06/2002 4:52:33 AM PST by chainsaw
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I have been trying to find out what happened to Photopoint!

All pictures I had linked on FR were stored there.

They took my money and ran. I will check out Shutterfly.

30 posted on 01/06/2002 6:10:35 AM PST by Budge
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One panicked user told him every photo he’d taken of his toddler was stored on Photopoint.

And, like a toddler, he had exhibited no foresight in making backup copies on his own HD or media.
31 posted on 01/06/2002 6:21:15 AM PST by aruanan
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Frankly, I'm surprised this story isn't all over the place. 1.2 million users just sitting around picking their noses?

Frankly, I'm surprised that anyone would be stupid enough to not have a copies of important photos stored locally.

I can see using resources like Photopoint as an online "showcase", but anyone was using it as their only source of storage is an idiot.

33 posted on 01/06/2002 6:37:10 AM PST by AAABEST
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I heard that Al Gore invented Photopoint.com.
39 posted on 01/06/2002 8:58:27 AM PST by Boss_Jim_Gettys
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. One panicked user told him every photo he’d taken of his toddler was stored on Photopoint.

What kind of idiot puts the only copies of his digital photos on a server over which he has no control?

I had a ton of pictures at photopoint but kept copies of all of them burned on CD's. Luckily for me I have access to several web servers and plenty of drive space as alternative web storing sites. But hey $20 a year, you gets what you pay for in life.

40 posted on 01/06/2002 9:48:17 AM PST by Cacique
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