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'Black Hawk Down' Was Set to Blame Clinton for 9/11
NewsMax ^ | December 27, 2001 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 12/27/2001 8:38:57 AM PST by MeekOneGOP

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Thursday Dec. 27, 2001; 12:16 p.m. EST

'Black Hawk Down' Was Set to Blame Clinton for 9/11

Columbia Pictures' "Black Hawk Down," the holiday action adventure movie about the 1993 Somalia debacle that cost 18 U.S. soldiers their lives, was set to explicity blame ex-President Clinton for the 9/11 terrorist attacks before the film's director and producers decided to soft-peddle the connection.

In mid-November, before the decision to tone down the Clinton angle, the film was previewed for a handful journalists.

Before its final edit "Black Hawk's" closing crawl highlighted a series of events following the Somalia mission, including Clinton's humiliating troop withdrawal from the country, the humanitarian disasters in Rwanda, Bosnia and Kosovo and, finally, the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11.

"With what happened in Mogadishu, with the way that all came down, you end up with the terrorism we see today," the film's producer Joe Roth told the New York Times on Wednesday. "It's so obvious now, eight years later."

Roth said his partner Jerry Bruckheimer and "Black Hawk's" director Ridley Scott agreed with him that "we would be remiss in not making this connection to the general audience."

But ultimately the filmakers, along with Mark Bowden, author of the best-selling book upon which the movie is based, decided that blaming Clinton explicitly would be "unnecessary and too distracting."

"It was a judgment call," Bowden said. "And I know you would think that a decision like this would have had something to do with the commercial aspects of releasing a movie, but it didn't. It was all about what was the right thing to do for the film."

Noted the Times: "It would have been an unusually bold move for a big, expensive studio production like 'Black Hawk Down' to blame President Bill Clinton and American public opinion for setting the stage for the kind of terrorism behind Sept. 11."

Still, director Scott argued that even after the rewrite, the message is obvious. "I think the implication is there.... To me, it's very clear that there is a connection between Mogadishu and what is happening now. But to make it explicit at the end of this movie would have been too much."

"Black Hawk Down" is set to premier in select theaters on Dec. 28.

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1 posted on 12/27/2001 8:38:58 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
Noted the Times: "It would have been an unusually bold move for a big, expensive studio production like 'Black Hawk Down' to blame President Bill Clinton and American public opinion for setting the stage for the kind of terrorism behind Sept. 11."

There is no mention of 'blaming American public opinion" for 9-11, only the disgraced, impeached , alleged serial rapist ex-President Bubba Klintoon. The Slimers will never give up...

2 posted on 12/27/2001 8:46:40 AM PST by RobFromGa
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To: MeeknMing
Noted the Times: "It would have been an unusually bold move for a big, expensive studio production like 'Black Hawk Down' to blame President Bill Clinton and American public opinion for setting the stage for the kind of terrorism behind Sept. 11."

The Times has to add public opinion, as if it is a factor in a President's decision making process. It was for Clinton, a President/follower, but it is not a factor with a President/leader. A President/leader shapes public opinion. But the Times will never see that.

3 posted on 12/27/2001 8:48:51 AM PST by beekeeper
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To: beekeeper
Kinda spooky, our two posts.

A bee stung my brother once.

4 posted on 12/27/2001 8:51:25 AM PST by RobFromGa
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To: MeeknMing
I bet Carville is behind this, as well as the removal/censorship of the Hillary booing during the re-broadcast of the McCartney NY concert on VH1.
5 posted on 12/27/2001 8:51:25 AM PST by SunStar
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To: MeeknMing
Could it be that they are setting up sales for the DVD "uncut" version ?
6 posted on 12/27/2001 8:52:02 AM PST by RS
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To: MeeknMing
Ridley Scott: "...But to make it explicit at the end of this movie would have been too much."

Wonder if Ridley Scott's family or livelihood was threatened?

7 posted on 12/27/2001 8:52:22 AM PST by an amused spectator
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To: MeeknMing
"Noted the Times: 'It would have been an unusually bold move for a big, expensive studio production like 'Black Hawk Down' to blame President Bill Clinton and American public opinion for setting the stage for the kind of terrorism behind Sept. 11.' "

It would have been unusually bold because there would have been public outcry against Hollywood for funding the traitorous b@stard. They just downgraded it to "status quo".

8 posted on 12/27/2001 8:54:01 AM PST by cake_crumb
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To: SunStar
No, Hillary IS the one behind the scenes, leaning hard on Hollyweird to ease up on the message. She's a master at script writing.
9 posted on 12/27/2001 9:02:43 AM PST by TADSLOS
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To: MeeknMing
I'm okay if the downplay this thing.

Most people can't swallow more than a little bit at a time; they have to come around gradually. They're opening up now, but too much reality could drive them back into their fantasies.

10 posted on 12/27/2001 9:08:35 AM PST by tsomer
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To: MeeknMing
I imagine we'll have to wait for the director's cut when it comes out on video/DVD to see the original intent?!
11 posted on 12/27/2001 9:09:12 AM PST by Rockinfreakapotamus
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To: MeeknMing
Interestingly, I don't need a movie to tell me that the RAPIST was/is responsbible for the failure to crush terrorists around the globe, up to and including the lives that were lost in Somalia. He had plenty of opportunities to do so and he "BLEW IT!"

You don't have to believe me, you can read about his explicit failures from his foot-fetish loving adviser Dick Morris.

That this film is even getting made is astonishing. Whether they put the Klintoon's name on the screen and say "He's responsible", I don't think that matters. He was the Commander in Chief at the time this incident occurred. He made the ultimate decision. He is responsible for the outcome. He is also that a$$hole that brokered a deal with the thug (Aidid) that we were trying to capture in the first place only a few weeks after the deaths of our servicemen.

And, Klintoon, even when he was acknowledging some regret, he is always looking for someone else to blame said this in a CNN interview:

"Clinton offers regrets

Clinton called Somalia an early regret that still troubles him. He said his decision to try to capture warlord Mohamed Farah Aidid was based on the advice of Gen. Colin Powell, who retired as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff soon after the operation began. Hundreds of Somalis and 18 U.S. soldiers were killed.

"I'm not blaming him. I'm just saying he was gone," Clinton said. He added, "I don't know if I could have saved those lives or not. I would have handled it in a different way if I'd had more experience."

I am always amazed at the incredible vanity of this man. "I don't know if I could have saved those lives or not." ?? Well, I guess you could have NOT let the Secretary General of the UN to talk you into a manhunt for Aidid. That might have been a good start.

12 posted on 12/27/2001 9:09:49 AM PST by mattdono
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To: RS; RobfromGA
Kinda spooky, our two posts

OUI JI

13 posted on 12/27/2001 9:11:59 AM PST by Rockinfreakapotamus
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To: MeeknMing
In mid-November, before the decision to tone down the Clinton angle, the film was previewed for a handful journalists.

Well gee, no wonder the reference to Clinton was deleted. The JOURNALISTS probably bitched! The same RATS who saved his sorry ass.

Maybe they should have previewed it to "joe six-pack" and see if there was any backlash.

Hope they re-instate it with the DVD. I'm really looking forward to this movie (after reading this), sounds like it may be closer to the truth than I was imagining it would be.

14 posted on 12/27/2001 9:12:38 AM PST by hattend
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To: RobFromGa
While I'll agree with your overall point about pressure to deflect blame from Clinton, especially by the Ministry of Propaganda, er, I mean the mainstream media, I think the filmmakers actually do blame BOTH Clinton and American public opinion. American public opinion was a factor, just as it elected and enabled Jughead, and turned a blind eye to corruption and appeasement, and refused to impeach.
15 posted on 12/27/2001 9:18:14 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: MeeknMing
Noted the Times: "It would have been an unusually bold move for a big, expensive studio production like 'Black Hawk Down' to blame President Bill Clinton and American public opinion for setting the stage for the kind of terrorism behind Sept. 11."

Notice they don't discount the fact that Clinton is to blame. Including the public is interesting. I wonder, if Bush screwed up, would the NYT blame "the American people"? (Thats obviously a rhetorical question.)

16 posted on 12/27/2001 9:18:31 AM PST by tonyinv
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To: tsomer
too much reality could drive them back into their fantasies

You know, I think you have a very, very good point.... as a scarred veteran of the culture wars, I've seen too often how a sledgehammer approach can backfire. Better to be subtle and let people reach their own conclusions about this stuff.

It is dripping out, a little at a time....
...hardly a day or week passes without some slime from the former occupants of the White House coming to everyone's attention again.

17 posted on 12/27/2001 9:23:00 AM PST by backhoe
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To: MeeknMing
Write to the editors of your local newspapers and comment on how the movie shows the Clinton presidency was a total failure.
Maybe hit a few call-in radio shows.
It's good to let your neighbors know the movie is about Bill and his discraced legacy.
Some who see the movie may not make the connection on their own. Especially the dumbed down democraps. We need to help them figure it out.
19 posted on 12/27/2001 9:24:49 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: tonyinv
If the screw-up was Reagan's, would they hesitate to say so? Wait, they DIDN'T, in a LOT of movies going back to the '80s. Hell, the H'wood crowd even rewrites stories to make them anti-conservative; witness "The Sum of All Fears", whose villains (Arab terrorists in the Clancy novel) were changed to Right-Wing Militiamen(tm) in the movie.
20 posted on 12/27/2001 9:27:18 AM PST by Long Cut
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