YOO-HOO Washington Post / Bin Laden "in our crosshairs" 3X, but couldn't get kill order from clinton

Delta Force pilot, Free Republic ^ | 12-20-01 | Mia T

[Mia T]

12-20-01

YOO-HOO Washington Post / Barton Gellman

 

Delta Force pilot:

Bin Laden was "in our crosshairs" 3 times during Clinton years, but couldn't get kill order from higher up.

From the article...

Three times after Aug. 20, 1998, when Clinton ordered the only missile strike of his presidency against bin Laden's organization, the CIA came close enough to pinpointing bin Laden that Clinton authorized final preparations to launch. In each case, doubts about the intelligence aborted the mission...

More than once, advisers recall, Clinton sounded out Gen. Henry H. Shelton, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, about the prospect of using Special Forces to surprise bin Laden's fighters on the ground. But Clinton declined to authorize the large-scale operation that Shelton said would be required, and he chose not to order a less ambitious option to which the general would have objected.

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Amid all of the spin there are germs of truth...

I've been sitting on some info under the "loose lips" principle, but this article makes that no longer necessary. An Academy buddy of my cousin, himself a former Air Force pilot, is a Delta Force pilot. According to him, we had bin Laden "in our crosshairs" three times during the Clinton years, but couldn't get the kill order from higher up. His conclusion from the field was the reason for this failure was nothing more than a lack of the political will to get the job done.

Which leads, yet again, to the obvious question:

Would the attacks of 9/11 have happened, had President Clinton been up to the job with which he was entrusted?

7 posted on 12/18/01 10:12 PM Pacific by Sabertooth

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I can't imagine that they would have happened if Clinton had done the job. 9/11 was the culmination of a series of increasingly brazen attacks on our interests, going all the way back to the original WTC bombing. As each attack happened, we were being watched by our enemies. They listened to what we said, but they really paid attention to what we did. And they eventually drew the conclusion that we were too weak and too soft to hit them back.

It's painfully clear now that we didn't do nearly enough. Clinton didn't have the intestinal fortitude to do what Bush is doing now. Why? There are probably a lot of reasons: his 60's mentality and its accompanying disdain for the military; his addiction to polls; his preoccupation with crushing his enemies; his pursuit of personal pleasure; or his lack of interest in foreign policy. But I think the biggest reason of all is this: Bill Clinton, at his most basic level, is a weak, soft man, afraid to put his precious self at risk, more given to talk than to action. He was weak and soft at a time when he needed to be strong and resolute, and 9/11 was the result. He deserves nothing but contempt.

Gee, I guess character does matter, after all.

53 posted on 12/19/01 10:23 PM Pacific by Rainbow Rising

Q ERTY3 BUMP! 

 

Delta Force pilot: [W]e had bin Laden "in our crosshairs" three times during the Clinton years, but couldn't get the kill order from higher up.--Sabertooth

 

Bill Clinton, at his most basic level, is a weak, soft man, afraid to put his precious self at risk--Rainbow Rising

COWARD

by Mia T

clinton is the quintessential coward. He is especially cowardly about acts physical, notwithstanding (or, more accurately, underscored by) an apparent facility in committing rapes, predations and willful, premeditated, opportunistic killings (e.g., the Sudan bombing, the Ricky Ray Rector execution). . .

clinton cowardice knows no geographic bounds. We saw clinton cowardice in the Balkans...

 

We saw clinton cowardice in Africa...

 

It was caught on videotape there. Remember? Remember the fear, the abject hatred on clinton's Mr.-Hyde-transmogrified face? (His real face!) Remember the angry screams directed to the (in fact pro-clinton) black crowd as they came too close to his podium?

I suspect clinton cowardice accounted for the cancellation of his trip to Greece with its streets teeming with anti-clinton demonstrators. Greeks were trying clinton in effigy for his wag-the-dog, desperately-seeking-a-legacy mass murders in the Balkans.

The world has clinton figured out: He is small, a greasy character, a degenerate, a delusional if opportunistic narcissist, a predatory adolescent, a backwoods buffoon; but most of all, he is a coward. If he won't go to Greece, with all the protections of the presidency, where will he go when we are finally rid of him? (Will we ever be finally rid of him?)

(That the backwoods, backroom duo thought they could spin the world as they did Arkansas is a measure of their stupidity. They are too arrogant and dim-witted to understand that the demagogic process in this fiber-optic age isn't about counting spun heads; it's about not discounting circumambient brains.)

Poetic justice in the end: clinton--both clintons, in fact--will be prisoners, both Cartesian and Freudian, of their own depravity, imprisioned in the hermetic confines of an evil, narcissistic life. Their world will finally and fittingly become as small as they, themselves, are.

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The Placebo President (aided and abetted by the media myrmidons of the left) strikes again...

by Mia T

 

What is most interesting about clinton's revisionist leak to the Washington Post that the impeached ex-president has decided that incompetency is a preferable legacy to idiocy or a sui generis narcissistic sedition.

The Covert Hunt for bin Laden
Broad Effort Launched After '98 Attacks

By Barton Gellman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, December 19, 2001; Page A01

 

First of two articles

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TO BE CONTINUED...

compulsive clinton CYA-ing CONTINUES

(so does 4th-estate malfeasance)

Q ERTY6 REALITY CHECK!

 

 

 

hillary's head revisited:

hillary clinton's brain (such as it is) II

 by Mia T

The smartest woman in the world would relish "the raucous give and take of American democracy, " as Charles Kuralt once put it.

hillary clinton, by contrast, subsists on cozy clintonoid interviews of the Colmes kind...

In her new book, Political Fictions, Joan Didion indicts the fakery of access journalism practiced by vacant politicos like the clintons, whom she sees as "purveyors of fables of their own making, or worse, fables conceived by political strategists with designs on votes, not news."

(More Didion: "No one who ever passed through an American public high school could have watched William Jefferson Clinton running for office in 1992 and failed to recognize the familiar predatory sexuality of the provincial adolescent.")

 

 

Just look around this chamber. We have members from virtually every racial, ethnic, and religious background. And America is stronger for it. But as we have seen, these differences all too often spark hatred and division, even here at home. . . This is not the American way. We must draw the line. Without delay, we must pass the Hate Crimes Prevention Act and the Employment Non-Discrimination Act. And we should reauthorize the Violence Against Women Act.

bill clinton, State of Union Speech, January 27, 2000

"I'm sorry, but the president is one of the crudest men I have ever encountered in government service," says one female agent. "He has no respect for women."

Among the comments clinton made in presence of Secret Service agents:

. Frequent speculation on the oral sex skills of women

the president saw or met in receiving lines;

. References to the size of a woman's breasts, legs or figure;

. Sexual jokes.

After the Monica Lewinsky story broke, however, clinton toned down his rhetoric and behavior in front of his Secret Service agents, but those who guarded the president say enough of them saw and heard things which could be damaging to clinton.

"It depends on who Ken Starr calls," says one ex-agent. "The people who are on the job today are not necessarily the ones who know the most."

Turnover In clinton's Secret Service Detail 'Highest That Anyone Can Remember'

In the months that follow, reporters drop the issue. Feminists say little or nothing. Rape crisis center workers acknowledge that Broaddrick's case, including her reluctance to come forward, is typical of victims of sexual assault. But they decline to speak against clinton. Some cite the federal funding they receive as a result of the Violence Against Women Act, which was signed into law by clinton.

Why does the press continue to ignore the Juanita Broaddrick story?

 

 

The Placebo President:

How a Rapist can be a Policy Feminist

 

placebo effect n.

A beneficial effect in a patient following a particular treatment

that arises from the patient's expectations concerning

the treatment rather than from the treatment itself.

 

Every woman adores a Fascist,

The boot in the face, the brute

Brute heart of a brute like you.

----Sylvia Plath

 

The placebo effect immediately came to mind

as I listened to Shelby Steele,

a research fellow at the Hoover Institution,

debunk the following pernicious spin intended to save clinton.

To wit:

A proven felon and utter reprobate can remain president;

clinton can be a failed human being but a good president.

 

The error in these statements arises, says Steele,

from the belief that

virtuousness is separate from personal responsibility

so that one's virtuousness as an individual is determined by

one's political positions on issues rather than on

whether or not in one's personal life there is a

consistency and a responsibility.

 

Steele's contention is that this compartmentalization,

rather than being the amazing advantage

the clintons would have us believe,

in fact, spills toxicity into, corrupts, the culture.

 

If mere identification with good policies is what makes one virtuous

then those policies become, what Steele calls, iconographic,

that is to say they just represent virtuousness.

They don't necessarily do virtuous things.

 

If clinton's semantic parsing strips meaning from our words,

clinton's iconographic policies strip meaning from our society,

systematically deconstructing our society as a democracy. . .

 

I would take Shelby Steele's thesis one step further.

I maintain that iconographic policy functions like a placebo,

producing a real, physiological and social effects.

 

The placebo effect is, after all, the brain's triumph over reality.

Expectation alone can produce powerful physiological results.

The placebo effect was, at one time, an evolutionary advantage:

act now, think later

 

bill clinton is the paradigmatic Placebo President.

Placebo is Latin for "I shall please."

And please he does

doling out sham treatments, iconographs, with abandon.

To please, to placate, to numb, to deflect.

Ultimately to showcase his imagined virtue.

Or to confute his genuine vice.

 

clinton will dispense sugar pills (or bombs)

at the drop of a high-heeled shoe...

or at the hint of high treason...

 

clinton's charlatanry mimics that of primitive medicine.

Through the 1940s, doctors had little effective medicine to offer

so they deliberately attempted to induce the placebo response.

 

The efficaciousness of today's medicines

does not diminish the power of the placebo.

A recent review of placebo-controlled studies

found that placebos and genuine treatments

are often equally effective.

If you expect to get better, you will.

 

Which brings me back to the original question:

Can clinton be a failed human being but a good president?

 

Clearly he cannot.

These two propositions are mutually exclusive.

clinton's fundamental failure is a complete lack of integrity.

He has violated his covenant with the American people.

 

Because clinton has destroyed his moral authority as a leader,

he can no longer function even as a quack;

the placebo effect is gone.

And so the Placebo President must now go, too.

 

 

Clinton's failure to grasp the opportunity to unravel increasingly organized extremists, coupled with Berger's assessments of their potential to directly threaten the U.S., represents one of the most serious foreign policy failures in American history

Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize

 

 

Bill Clinton may not be the worst president America has had, but surely he is the worst person to be president.

---GEORGE WILL, Sleaze, the sequel

 

Had George Will written Sleaze, the sequel (the "sequel" is, of course, hillary) after 9-11-01, I suspect that he would have had to forgo the above conceit, as the doubt expressed in the setup phrase was, from that day forward, no longer operational.

Indeed, assessing the clinton presidency an abject failure is not inconsistent with commentary coming from the left, most recently the LA Times: "Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize."

When the clintons left office, I predicted that the country would eventually learn--sadly, the hard way--that this depraved, self-absorbed and inept pair had placed America (and the world) in mortal danger. But I was thinking years, not months.

It is very significant that hillary clinton didn't deny clinton culpability for the terrorism. (Meet the Press, 12-09-01), notwithstanding tired tactics (if you can't pass the buck, spread the blame) and chronic self-exclusion. ("I knew nuttin'.")

If leftist pandering keeps the disenfranchized down in perpetuity, clinton pandering,("it's the economy, stupid"), kept the middle and upper classes wilfully ignorant for eight years.

And ironically, both results (leftist social policy and the clinton economy) are equally illusory, fraudulent. It is becoming increasingly clear that clinton assiduously avoided essential actions that would have negatively impacted the economy--the ultimate source of his continued power--actions like, say, going after the terrorists.

It is critically important that hillary clinton fail in her grasp for power; read Peggy Noonan's little book, 'The Case Against Hillary Clinton' and Barbara Olson's two books; it is critical that the West de-clintonize, but that will be automatic once it is understood that the clintons risked civilization itself in order to gain and retain power.

It shouldn't take books, however, to see that a leader is a dangerous, self-absorbed sicko. People should be able to figure that out for themselves. The electorate must be taught to think, to reason. It must be able to spot spin, especially in this age of the electronic demagogue.

I am not hopeful. As Bertrand Russell noted, "Most people would sooner die than think; in fact, they do so. "

Mia T, hillary clinton blames hubby for terrorism

(SHE knew nuttin')

Meet the Press, 12-09-01

 

 

A Fish Rots from the Head

Investor's Business Daily

 

 

Ijaz, an admitted Clinton supporter who helped negotiate these opportunities to nab bin Laden, said, "The silence of the Clinton administration in responding to these offers was deafening."

 

Ijaz says that three months before bin Laden's men blew up the USS Cole in Yemen, he "brought the White House another plausible offer to deal with bin Laden, by then known to be involved in the embassy bombings(in Tanzania and Kenya)... But senior Clinton officials sabotaged the offer."

 

Clinton's apparent boredom with vital information extended beyond Sudanese intelligence officers to his own intelligence officers. His first CIA director, James Woolsey, couldn't get a meeting with Clinton in the two years he served. Woolsey left the Clinton administration disgusted with

its slovenly approach to national security. ...

 

To hear Clinton now say "We must do more to reduce the pool of potential

terrorists" is thus beyond farce. He had numerous opportunities to reduce

that pool, and he blew it.

 

The pool, in fact, grew larger on Clinton's watch, as he spent his final days giving pardons to drug dealers, Puerto Rican terrorists and Marc Rich, a fugitive who topped America's most-wanted list.

 

In this light, Clinton's order to the CIA that it not use "unsavory characters" to collect information pushes irony to its outer limits.

Also:

The Left is redolent with the peculiar stench of sinking-ship-jumping 'Rats

[Mia T]

Scatologically speaking, the lexicon, like everything else this depraved family touched, is already 'clintonized.'

[InvisibleChurch]

thankx for the article . . . part of it so depressing, knowing that such a figure controlled so many lives and showed so much contempt for all of them / but i'm glad to see this article to remind me that some people are not letting him off the hook just because he is out of office / the United States needs to take a long , hot shower to rid itself of this coating of grease

[Fred Mertz]

"I have to take a clinton."

Don't forget to wipe your hillary:)

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

ROFLM-Hillary-O

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Toilet paper with Hillary's and Bubba's faces on it. I wonder if anyone made some clinton paper yet?

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

If CLINTOON had been on flight 93, he would have been cowering in the aft bathroom while true patriots did what had to be done.

Worse than that, he would be offering pardons to the terrorists and ratting on the patriots in exchange for his life.

[Mia T]

Q ERTY4 bump!

"There's a rumor going around Washington that Osama bin Laden has written a letter to Clinton, asking for a pardon. I guess he doesn't know that Clinton isn't president anymore."

--Bob Dole to Jay Leno

See:

WHAT HARM CAN HE DO?

[Mia T]

low center of gravity

W I D E B O D Y

BUMP!

[OKSooner]

Thank you...

[Registered]

Great post Mia! BUMPUS!

[MinuteGal]

What does Q erty mean?

Leni

[beckett]

Steele's contention is that this compartmentalization, rather than being the amazing advantage the clintons would have us believe, in fact, spills toxicity into, corrupts, the culture.

If mere identification with good policies is what makes one virtuous then those policies become, what Steele calls, iconographic, that is to say they just represent virtuousness. They don't necessarily do virtuous things.

Good stuff Mia. Some of your best.

[Grampa Dave]

Money has been the controlling factor for the Clintoon even when he ran for Attorney General for the state of Arkrazy!

When it comes to OBL not being offed during the Clintoon's outhouse regime, never forget the money!

OBL and his family are Super Rich Saudis! The total family wealth is in the billions, high billions! Then the Super Rich Saudis who hate America are the Fanatics who have helped to finance OBL to get started in setting up the al_Queerdos and the Talibaners. Hell, they probably financed his election in 1992 with large gifts to the enviral organizations who insure that we are dependent on Opecker Oil. Then, these large enviral organizations acted as a key demonicRat $ laundry machine and gave large donations to help elect the Clintoon in 1992 and 1996! Look at the funding $'s that the ChiComs shoveled into the Clintoon's two campaigns!

It is probably a safe bet that Clintoon and his dragon b$tch Hilldebeast have been receiving money since he became #42 from the Super Rich Arabs, the OBL family and probably OBL to insure the safety of OBL!

So the Clintoon with Jake Reno's help made the white male Christians who owned guns and MicroSoft the number one and number terror priorities to the US from 1993 to Jan 2001!

Then Leaky Leahy, Biden, the Torch and other left wing senators deballed and made the CIA into a pink panty wearing PC/Diversity training organization. The CIA held Diversity training sessions and Diversity Quiltiing parties instead of collecting intel on the bad guys! Our spy satellites were Goron's toys/tools to try and prove the evils of Global Warming!

The Former Bureau of Investigation under Jake Reno became so ineffective that they enlisted the killer of the three poor women in the Yosemite killings to help them. They were focusing on a Biker gang instead of doing basic detective work! Good old Jake insured that the FBI from Feb 1993 to Jan 2001 became the Former Bureau of Investigation again with the pink panty people rising to the top and the middle of the Former Bureau of Investigation!

Yeah the Clintoons are and still are traitors. However, we need to start focusing on the money trail from the super rich Arabs who hate America. The same ones who financed OBL and enabled him to set up the el_Queerdos and the Talibaners IMHO have been paying protection money to the Clintoons for a long time~!

When it comes to the Clintoons and any top DemonicRat senator/politician, just follow the money! From Tyson Chicken to the Super Rich Saudis who hate America/Americans!

[river rat]

America's war against terrorism, corruption, marxism, crime and oppressive government - will not be over - until we can stand at ease and piss on the Clinton's graves.
Semper Fi

[sandydipper]

The boy is pond scum and I am sooo proud of you for making it known. He belongs in JAIL.

[StarFan]

From Tyson Chicken to the Super Rich Saudis who hate America/Americans! Guess X42 won't be getting his Christmas bonus from Tyson while their in the throes of explaining the smuggling of illegal aliens across the Mexican boarder.

Thanks for the ping Mia. Let's hope Leslie (lips attached to xlintoon's butt)Stahl gets to read this article as well as the Vanity Fair article which should be out shortly (or has it come out?).

[aculeus]

Left breathless (by your talents) bump!

[Grampa Dave]

Yep, you are probably correct! Tyson will not be sending the X42 and the Hilldebeast their Christmas Bonuses.

That money will be used to hire the best left wing demonicRat lawyers in the land to make Tyson appear to a kindly company for trucking illegals to their foul butchering plants and hiring them. La Raza and the left wingers will work 24/7 praising the kindly hiring of illegal aliens by the wonderful Tysons/Tyson pieces of foul chicken company! Foul Fowl butchered and packed by illegals who never had to take a physical to work. Germs and Viruses added at no charge in your Tyson foul chicken parts!

[StarFan]

Guess X42 won't be getting his Christmas bonus from Tyson while their in the throes of ...." Ooops, while they're in the throes of!! I always seem to find my errors after the fact.

That money will be used to hire the best left wing demonicRat lawyers in the land

Ha! But aren't they going to be busy make Jihad Johnny look like an altar boy?

[Grampa Dave]

SF posted: " Ha! But aren't they going to be busy making Jihad Johnny look like an altar boy?"

Yeah, but no problem. They will use the standard formula of making the good people look bad thanks to their buddies the left wing maggots. Then, they will make Johnny Jihad look like a misguided angel! Then, they will blame, GW, Reagan, Newt, you, me and other conservatives. OBL will painted as the second you know what! Big tobacco, Ken Starr, the NRA and the KKK will be blamed!

There are more than enough left wing demonicRat trial lawyers to handle Tyson and Johnny Jihad.

Speaking money trails, weren't the demonicRat Trial lawyers the largest $ donating group for Goron?

One final question on money and lawyers. Apparently Johnny Jihad's sugar daddy is a middle level lawyer for PG&E. His daddy is apparently a homosexual living with another left winger guy. His mother is the typical brain dead and skilless Marin County left wing woman without any skills to bring in a good pay check. So Daddy is strapped for cash as he has to maintain two homes hers and his.

So who is financing one of the West Coasts most expensive left wing demonicRat trial lawyers to defend Johnny Jihad? It ain't his dysfunctional marvelous Marin Parents!