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Evidence of ancient city found in depths off Cuba (best article yet)
Toronto Globa and Mail ^ | 12/7/01 | MICHAEL POSNER

Posted on 12/12/2001 10:37:07 PM PST by spycatcher

A team of Canadian and Cuban researchers have discovered the remains of what may be a 6,000-year-old city submerged in deep ocean waters off the western coast of Cuba.

Using sophisticated sonar and videotape equipment, offshore engineer Paulina Zelitsky, her husband, Paul Weinzweig, and her son, Ernesto Tapanes, have found megaliths "of a kind you'd find at Stonehenge or Easter Island," Mr. Weinzweig said in an interview yesterday.

"Some structures within the complex may be as long as 400 metres wide and as high as 40 metres," he said. "Some are sitting on top of each other. They show very distinct shapes and symmetrical designs of a non-natural kind. We've shown them to scientists in Cuba, the U.S. and elsewhere, and nobody has suggested they are natural."

Moreover, an anthropologist affiliated with the Cuban Academy of Sciences has said that still photos taken from the videotape clearly show "symbols and inscriptions," Mr. Weinzweig said. It is not yet known in what language the inscriptions are written.

The sonar images, he added, bear a remarkable resemblance to the pyramidal design of Mayan and Aztec temples in Mexico.

Mr. Weinzweig said it is too early to draw firm conclusions from the evidence collected so far. The research team plans another foray to the site -- off the Guanahacabibes Peninsula on Cuba's western tip -- next month. Next summer, it hopes to return again, this time with the first deep-water mobile excavator, equipped with functions needed for on-site archeological evaluation, including the ability to blow sand off stone.

Geologists have recently hypothesized that a land bridge once connected Cuba to Mexico's Yucatan peninsula. And portions of the Cuban island are believed to have been submerged in the sea on three separate occasions in the distant past.

The structures are on a plateau that forms the bottom of what is thought to be a mud volcano, 650 to 700 metres beneath the surface of the ocean and along what is clearly a geological fault line. "It's well known that ancient civilizations liked to build at the base of volcanoes, because the land is fertile. So that's suggestive," Mr. Weinzweig said.

One tantalizing possibility, entirely speculative for now, is that if the legendary sunken continent of Atlantis is ever proven to have existed, these structures may have been submerged during the same cataclysm.

Mr. Weinzweig simply says that more information is needed. "We'd prefer to stay away from that subject. This is something of great potential scientific interest, but it must involve serious authorities on ancient civilizations."

The precise age of the underwater site is also unknown, although Cuban archeologists in 1966 excavated a land-based megalithic structure on the western coast, close to the new underwater discovery, said to date from 4000 BC. "Based on that and other geological information, we're speculating that these are 6,000 years old," he explained. "It's not exact, but they're very ancient."

If that dating estimate proves accurate, it would mean that an ancient civilization had designed and erected these vast stone structures in the Americas only 500 years after human settlements first became organized in cities and states.

They would also have been built long before the wheel was invented in Sumeria (3500 BC), or the sundial in Egypt (3000 BC). The three pyramids on Egypt's Giza plateau are thought to have been constructed between 2900 and 2200 BC.

The couple's Havana-based company, Advanced Digital Communications, discovered the site in July of 2000, using side-scan sonar equipment to view what resembled an underwater city, complete with roads, buildings and pyramids.

The team returned this past summer with a 1.3-tonne, unmanned Remotely Operated Vehicle, controlled from the mother ship via fibre-optic cable. Its cameras confirmed the earlier findings, showing vast granite-like blocks, between two and five metres in length, that were cut in perpendicular and circular designs.

But because of technical problems, Mr. Weinzweig said, "we were only able to survey the perimeter of the site. Based on initial explorations, we think it's much larger than even our sonar projections show. It may extend for several kilometres."

In addition to the archeological site, ADC has been exploring what Mr. Weinzweig calls "the richest underwater cemetery in the world" for sunken Spanish galleons. Hundreds of treasure-bearing ships are said to lie around the island, several hundred to several thousand metres deep.

Last year, off Havana Bay, it found the remains of USS Maine, the battleship that blew up in 1898. That incident, never entirely explained, killed 260 sailors and precipitated the Spanish-American War.


TOPICS: Canada; Cuba; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: archaeology; atlantis; canada; catastrophism; clovis; cuba; flood; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; paulinazelitsky; paulinazelitzky; preclovis; russia; settegast; velikovsky; vikings
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More info than the other recent articles posted here
1 posted on 12/12/2001 10:37:08 PM PST by spycatcher
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To: blam; #3Fan; Carry_Okie; BCR #226; Ridin' Shotgun; medved; jrhepfer; gnarledmaw; crystalk...
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2 posted on 12/13/2001 3:44:26 PM PST by spycatcher
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To: blam
mud volcano

Your kind of phenomenon. Inscriptions, too. Just like a Lovecraft story.

3 posted on 12/13/2001 3:51:44 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: spycatcher
Thanks for the post and thanks for the ping-this is amazing stuff.
4 posted on 12/13/2001 4:18:24 PM PST by sawsalimb
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To: spycatcher
Facinating. Wonder how they came up with the 6000 year old date from sonar pictures?
5 posted on 12/13/2001 4:21:55 PM PST by Ditter
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To: spycatcher
" Evidence of ancient city found in depths off Cuba (best article yet) "

It's called Havana.

6 posted on 12/13/2001 4:23:18 PM PST by Republic of Texas
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To: spycatcher
Moreover, an anthropologist affiliated with the Cuban Academy of Sciences has said that still photos taken from the videotape clearly show "symbols and inscriptions," Mr. Weinzweig said. It is not yet known in what language the inscriptions are written.

That should prove to be a lot of fun, if it checks out.

7 posted on 12/13/2001 4:29:55 PM PST by white rose
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To: RightWhale
There are really neat mud volcanos in Azerbaijan. Something this deep isn't surprising, though; the sea level is much higher now than it was in the past.
8 posted on 12/13/2001 4:30:04 PM PST by aruanan
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To: aruanan
the sea level is much higher now

Sea level has risen, but more like 300 feet than 2000 feet. If this is a city, it must have sunk 1700 feet or so, which is unusual. A big methane pocket underneath might have erupted, but even big earthquakes don't normally move land vertically more than a few feet. Parts of Anchorage shifted 20 feet in the Good Friday earthquake and they lost their seaport.

9 posted on 12/13/2001 4:41:52 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: RightWhale
Well, I suppose that should these things prove to be what they appear to be it goes without saying either that the sea level has risen much more than 300 feet or that there has been subsidence to a great degree or both.
10 posted on 12/13/2001 5:06:09 PM PST by aruanan
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To: aruanan
Humans are primarily adapted for aquatic or semi-aquatic life (see Elaine Morgans "Aquatic Ape") and have always lived near water. The basic answer to the evos refrain ("where did the waters of the flood GO?") is NOWHERE. The waters of the flood are still here; the continental shelves are in all likelihood the pre-flood ocean boundaries and we are living on areas which were regarded as plateaus before the flood. There's simply more water on Earth now than there was then.

There is reason to believe that the missing oceans of Mars may been been dumped on this planet at the time of the flood but that's a longish story.

Most of the antediluvian cities figure to be below the waves as this site is, and I assume other such sites will be found as well.

11 posted on 12/13/2001 5:16:14 PM PST by medved
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To: spycatcher; *Gods, Graves, Glyphs; Sabertooth; blam; callisto
Good catch!

To find all articles tagged or indexed using 'Gods, Graves, Glyphs'

Click here: 'Gods, Graves, Glyphs'

12 posted on 12/13/2001 5:40:19 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks for the group link
13 posted on 12/13/2001 6:04:44 PM PST by spycatcher
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To: RightWhale
Cthulu?
14 posted on 12/13/2001 6:06:52 PM PST by lds23
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To: medved
Are you claiming that the Waters didn't cover the Whole Earth? Just the Oceans?
15 posted on 12/13/2001 6:07:51 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic
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To: spycatcher
"If that dating estimate proves accurate, it would mean that an ancient civilization had designed and erected these vast stone structures in the Americas only 500 years after human settlements first became organized in cities and states.

I high lighted what I thought was the error in the above statement.

16 posted on 12/13/2001 6:19:54 PM PST by blam
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To: aruanan
"There are really neat mud volcanos in Azerbaijan. Something this deep isn't surprising, though; the sea level is much higher now than it was in the past."

Yup. In California too. I posted an article on the mud volcanos of Azerbaijan. It got four posts excluding mine. lol.

17 posted on 12/13/2001 6:24:18 PM PST by blam
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To: RightWhale
"Sea level has risen, but more like 300 feet than 2000 feet. If this is a city, it must have sunk 1700 feet or so, which is unusual."

Could the Gulf Of Mexico have been isolated for a while like the Black Sea? Partial dessication? Food for thought.

18 posted on 12/13/2001 6:28:13 PM PST by blam
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To: Doctor Stochastic
All the places anybody had ever thought about living before it happened. Greeks and Chinese claim people and animals survived on mountaintops and whatever could float for six months.
19 posted on 12/13/2001 7:15:38 PM PST by medved
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To: spycatcher
Thanks for the very interesting article.
20 posted on 12/13/2001 7:42:56 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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