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Are liberal Democrats the new black helicopter loonies?
Captal de Buch | 12-10-01 | Captal de Buch

Posted on 12/10/2001 3:03:32 PM PST by Captal de Buch

Are the liberal Democrats becoming the black helicopter loonies of the new millennium?

 

Remember the black helicopter loonies of the 90’s? Linda Thompson, Mark from Michigan and the other crazies, remember how all their stupid ranting seem to stick to conservatives like Velcro? Those bozos created all sorts of credibility problems for anyone who spoke up about issues in the Clinton administration. Any time a conservative criticized the Clinton administration he or she would be dismissed as just another Clinton hating black helicopter loony. This dismissible conservative credibility in the eyes of the American public seemed to embolden Clinton to do what he damn well pleased without fear of retribution from the public, even to the point of lying to Congress and the American people.

 

Is the shoe on the other foot now?

 

Charles Schumer, Maxine Waters and others from the left appear have taken up the mantel of un-credible loonies whose words and actions are destroying any credibility the Democrats have when it comes to criticizing the Republicans and the Bush administration. Their ranting doesn’t seem to change Bush’s popularity ratings, in fact they make it look like the Democratic Party agenda is simply a sour grapes plot to get Bush.

 

Do the Republicans realize this? If they do realize this can they take advantage of the situation or will the innate Republican fear of doing something stupid turn into another round of not doing anything at all?


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To: VA Advogado
So rights (or lack thereof) are subjective?

Hardly. That same sentence applies to any member of any political party. There are pro-choice Republicans and pro-life Democrats.

Depends on the personal and religious belief of the individual, doesn't it?

121 posted on 12/10/2001 5:07:06 PM PST by Doctor Doom
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To: VA Advogado
Constitutionally, abortion is outside the purview of the federal government, so the Libertarian Party rightly opposes federal laws outlawing or permitting abortion.

Isnt the right to life a primary right? How do you reconcile this statement with your one in post #94 where you said:

"Libertarians support all laws which criminalize the violation of individual rights."

122 posted on 12/10/2001 5:07:44 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: VA Advogado
I see on your hompage you have a little cartoon of a RAT.

I guess it's a "tell"
123 posted on 12/10/2001 5:07:46 PM PST by motzman
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To: Doctor Doom
Such a ban would be as unconstitutional as Roe v. Wade.

Good point.

For a politician, Paul is quite adept at placing reason above emotion and focus groups.

124 posted on 12/10/2001 5:08:29 PM PST by Senator Pardek
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To: Doctor Doom
Paul's ACU (American Conservative Union) rating is better than most Republicans.

I believe I said AC*L*U. Nice try though.

125 posted on 12/10/2001 5:08:34 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: VA Advogado
Rights are not subjective.

The question of whether the unborn have them very much is, for all people, regardless of party or ideology. It is based on religious or personal belief.

126 posted on 12/10/2001 5:08:34 PM PST by Doctor Doom
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To: sinkspur
It is not anti-American to question the validity of government edicts. It is the very essence of America. I don't have to agree with Demidog on his discomfort...but he is just as much an American as you claim to be.

You should apologize because you took a cheap shot...as is your style...and that is all I'm going to say on the subject.

127 posted on 12/10/2001 5:08:56 PM PST by harrowup
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To: A.J.Armitage
Crossing state lines with no purpose of sale is indeed not commerce.

Thats not true for legal purposes, but regardless, you didn't answer my question.

128 posted on 12/10/2001 5:09:27 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: Senator Pardek
Do these nations have the right, nay - the responsibility, to secure this right and invade the U.S.?

Absurd. A country that doesn't believe in the death penalty metting out the death penalty to another nation because of its death penalty?

Please....try a better analogy. That one is absurd.

129 posted on 12/10/2001 5:10:09 PM PST by Demidog
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To: VA Advogado
See, I knew that my tin-foil socks would keep me off your list.
130 posted on 12/10/2001 5:10:27 PM PST by m1911
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To: VA Advogado
Yes you did say that.

And I said A*C*U.

I guess you don't like when evidence is presented that doesn't agree with your slant.

131 posted on 12/10/2001 5:11:08 PM PST by Doctor Doom
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To: Doctor Doom
Such a ban would be as unconstitutional as Roe v. Wade.

Have you ever READ Roe v Wade? The state has a compelling interest in the life of the child in the 3 trimester. It means they CAN ban it. Where do you guys come up with this stuff. You throw your shit to the wall and hope something will stick? Can you people support ANY of your silly ideas with facts or logic?

132 posted on 12/10/2001 5:11:25 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: Demidog
That coming from a well known LIAR and COWARD ? You want me to post the name of the thread, AND the number of YOUR post, wherein you wrote exactly what I have said you did ? Is THAT what YOU want ? Be careful of what YOU ask for; because you are bound to get it !
133 posted on 12/10/2001 5:12:00 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Yes. I want you to do that. And if you are going to talk about me flag me. Coward.
134 posted on 12/10/2001 5:12:40 PM PST by Demidog
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To: VA Advogado
Just a note that Dr. Kissinger and the rest of the CFR were very helpful in making sure that Nebraska made it to the Rose Bowl, as well as the Skull & Bones, and the Freemasons.

The Rose Bowl fix was nothing for this group of powerful leaders! LOL....

135 posted on 12/10/2001 5:13:05 PM PST by Fury
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To: Doctor Doom
Depends on the personal and religious belief of the individual, doesn't it?

Not according to your earlier statement.

"Libertarians support all laws which criminalize the violation of individual rights."

But then I thought you would at least be logical in your debate.

136 posted on 12/10/2001 5:13:37 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: VA Advogado
Isnt the right to life a primary right?

Yes.

How do you reconcile this statement with your one in post #94 where you said: "Libertarians support all laws which criminalize the violation of individual rights."

Easy - Congress is given purview over three crimes and only three crimes - treason, piracy and counterfeiting.

Laws against all other crimes are the proper role of states and localities, provided they do not violate the U.S. Constitution.

137 posted on 12/10/2001 5:13:53 PM PST by Doctor Doom
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To: nopardons
Go look it up, kid . Eiher it is, or it isn't. You can't say that " it isn't REALLY mentioned "; as that is akin to being " a lttle pregnant."

Let me give you a little lesson in ethics, since you obviously need it.

If you put quotation marks around what you're saying someone said, it had better be a direct quote. As in, the exact words. No, it is NOT acceptible to switch words around. I said "it really isn't", not "it isn't really". What I actually said is significantly more emphatic, and I mean it to be emphatic. The word sedition does not appear in the United States Constitution. I know this because I already have looked it up. Yes, some of us do things like that.

You can find a copy of the Constitution here. Hit Ctrl-F, type in sedition (if you can manage to spell it right) and hit find. If you WebTV people can do something that basic, it'll say "Finished searching the document," or something like that. That means the word isn't there.

138 posted on 12/10/2001 5:14:03 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
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To: Doctor Doom
The question of whether the unborn have them very much is, for all people, regardless of party or ideology. It is based on religious or personal belief.

Do you know what the definition of subjective is? You just used it whether you know it or not.

139 posted on 12/10/2001 5:14:42 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: Demidog
It was not an analogy - it was a non-rhetorical question.

A rhetorical question would be "Why does Great Britain oppose the extradition of Osama if he could get the death penalty, when they fully support the killing of Afghani children by American bombs?" ;)

140 posted on 12/10/2001 5:14:50 PM PST by Senator Pardek
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