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Are liberal Democrats the new black helicopter loonies?
Captal de Buch | 12-10-01 | Captal de Buch

Posted on 12/10/2001 3:03:32 PM PST by Captal de Buch

Are the liberal Democrats becoming the black helicopter loonies of the new millennium?

 

Remember the black helicopter loonies of the 90’s? Linda Thompson, Mark from Michigan and the other crazies, remember how all their stupid ranting seem to stick to conservatives like Velcro? Those bozos created all sorts of credibility problems for anyone who spoke up about issues in the Clinton administration. Any time a conservative criticized the Clinton administration he or she would be dismissed as just another Clinton hating black helicopter loony. This dismissible conservative credibility in the eyes of the American public seemed to embolden Clinton to do what he damn well pleased without fear of retribution from the public, even to the point of lying to Congress and the American people.

 

Is the shoe on the other foot now?

 

Charles Schumer, Maxine Waters and others from the left appear have taken up the mantel of un-credible loonies whose words and actions are destroying any credibility the Democrats have when it comes to criticizing the Republicans and the Bush administration. Their ranting doesn’t seem to change Bush’s popularity ratings, in fact they make it look like the Democratic Party agenda is simply a sour grapes plot to get Bush.

 

Do the Republicans realize this? If they do realize this can they take advantage of the situation or will the innate Republican fear of doing something stupid turn into another round of not doing anything at all?


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Comment #101 Removed by Moderator

To: Demidog
Thanks for the definition but it in no way disagrees with my statement. I knew the definition already.

Well we agree on that too. Scary. lol

102 posted on 12/10/2001 4:58:23 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: Carbon; realpatriot71; motzman
All men except realpatriot71 and motzman :)
103 posted on 12/10/2001 4:59:47 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: VA Advogado
Well, we do disagree on Ron Paul. To me, Paul is the Bin Laden of our congress.

Huh. Wouldn't have figured you as a Democrat.

104 posted on 12/10/2001 5:00:05 PM PST by Dakotabound
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To: VA Advogado
Great definition. Read it; you'll learn something. In case you need help, it includes the all important word, "commerce". That has implications.
105 posted on 12/10/2001 5:00:16 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
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To: Demidog
The right to a jury trial is merely the enumeration of the natural right to a fair trial where your peers not only judge your guilt but the law used to prosecute you.

There is no "natural right" to a trial by a jury of your peers. That is a right guaranteed by the Constitution to American citizens. Even that right is not absolute, as members of the military are subject to an entirely different set of rules, of which they are made aware when they sign up.

Non-citizens are not entitled to the protection of the American Constitution.

Have you ever read the bible? Just curious.

I've read the Bible. In it, Jesus said to give to Caesar that which is Caesar's. He didn't come to found an earthly kingdom.

America is not a theocracy, and I thank God every day for that.

106 posted on 12/10/2001 5:00:32 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: Dakotabound
Wouldn't have figured you as a Democrat.

Paul's ACLU rating is more like the democrats anyway. How would you know the difference?

107 posted on 12/10/2001 5:00:58 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: VA Advogado
Paul's no statist. Democrats are. And you?
108 posted on 12/10/2001 5:01:41 PM PST by Dakotabound
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To: A.J.Armitage
In case you need help, it includes the all important word, "commerce". That has implications.

So crossing state lines for purpose of sale is not commerce?

109 posted on 12/10/2001 5:01:48 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: A.J.Armitage
Go look it up, kid .

Eiher it is, or it isn't. You can't say that " it isn't REALLY mentioned "; as that is akin to being " a lttle pregnant."

110 posted on 12/10/2001 5:02:17 PM PST by nopardons
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To: VA Advogado
Interesting question. Depends on the religious or personal belief of the libertarian.

For those who believe that an unborn is indeed a "life," there is no question that it is entitled to the same individual rights as anyone else. Hence groups like Libertarians for Life.

A minority of libertarians do not support this position, seeing that life only begins at some point further along in the development - anywhere from the first formation of neurological system to the first trimester to viability on to actual birth. Their reasons vary with each. They, of course, do not see abortion prior to their "line in the sand" as a violation of the unborn's rights, because, defining it not a life, it therefore has none of the same protections as a post-born (or post-first trimester, or post, viability, etc.)

Constitutionally, abortion is outside the purview of the federal government, so the Libertarian Party rightly opposes federal laws outlawing or permitting abortion.

111 posted on 12/10/2001 5:02:18 PM PST by Doctor Doom
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To: A.J.Armitage
Go look it up, kid .

Eiher it is, or it isn't. You can't say that " it isn't REALLY mentioned "; as that is akin to being " a little pregnant."

112 posted on 12/10/2001 5:02:38 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Dakotabound
Paul's no statist. Democrats are. And you?

He still voted against banning partial birth abortion. Thats about as evil, democratic and statist as you can get in my book. And you?

113 posted on 12/10/2001 5:03:15 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: VA Advogado
Paul's ACU (American Conservative Union) rating is better than most Republicans.
114 posted on 12/10/2001 5:05:07 PM PST by Doctor Doom
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To: Doctor Doom
Interesting question. Depends on the religious or personal belief of the libertarian.

So rights (or lack thereof) are subjective? In other words, Sinkspur is right if he feels that aliens are not entitled to a jury trial? And so is Demidog because he thinks they are? Its a tie?

115 posted on 12/10/2001 5:05:13 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: VA Advogado
So crossing state lines for purpose of sale is not commerce?

Crossing state lines with no purpose of sale is indeed not commerce.

116 posted on 12/10/2001 5:05:42 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
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To: VA Advogado
Well, it IS embarassing ( or should be ) , for Demidog.
117 posted on 12/10/2001 5:05:49 PM PST by nopardons
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To: VA Advogado
He still voted against banning partial birth abortion

Such a ban would be as unconstitutional as Roe v. Wade.

118 posted on 12/10/2001 5:05:51 PM PST by Doctor Doom
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To: Demidog
Either you have rights independent of what the govenrment says, or they are granted to you by Geneva or whatever country you happen to live in.

Most of the world's nations believe that an individual has an inalienable right not to be executed - regardless of the crime.

Do these nations have the right, nay - the responsibility, to secure this right and invade the U.S.? Or do you believe in national sovereignty?

119 posted on 12/10/2001 5:06:42 PM PST by Senator Pardek
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To: sinkspur
There is no "natural right" to a trial by a jury of your peers. That is a right guaranteed by the Constitution to American citizens.

It's part of the right of self defense. The fact that the founders detailed how that right would be protected in no way means that it isn't a natural right.

The right to face your accusers and to have the evidence publically presented is about having the opportunity to defend yourself from the government itself.

What you want to believe is that there are people who do not have a right to defend themselves from our government.

And you want to believe that Americans are morally and genetically superior to everyone else due to the mere fact that somebody wrote something down on a piece of paper.

Don't pretend you respect those words.

120 posted on 12/10/2001 5:07:06 PM PST by Demidog
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