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Bush Civil Rights Appointee Denied Seat by Commission, Refused Recognition
AP ^ | 12/7/01 | Will Lester

Posted on 12/07/2001 8:13:22 AM PST by Jean S

WASHINGTON (AP) - The U.S. Commission on Civil Rights refused Friday to seat - or even recognize - a new commissioner appointed by President Bush.

Cleveland labor lawyer Peter Kirsanow watched quietly from the audience as attempts by the three Republican commissioners to have him seated or acknowledged were repeatedly voted down 5-3. Kirsanow attempted to vote for the first 10 minutes of the session but he was ignored and eventually sat silent as his allies continued debate.

The meeting opened with an attempt by Republican commissioners to adjourn until the dispute over the commission's makeup is resolved. But Chairwoman Mary Frances Berry persuaded the commission to reject that effort, saying it is impossible to know when the legal dispute will be resolved.

Berry recounted how President Reagan fired her in 1983 and how she fought through the courts to get back on the board.

She said accepting the White House or Justice Department interpretation of the law on the commission's makeup "would threaten the very independence of the commission."

Commissioner Christopher Edley, an ally of Berry, said he has told House Democratic leader Dick Gephardt that the White House is trying to reshape the commission in an apparent retribution for some of his work.

Berry - a frequent critic of the 2000 elections and particularly of Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, younger brother of the president - presides over a panel on which six commissioners lean Democratic and two lean Republican. The White House has already announced it plans to appoint Jennifer Cabranes Braceras to replace Yvonne Lee, whose term is expiring in early December. If Kirsanow is seated, the commission would be split 4-4.

Kirsanow was sworn in Thursday night to fill the seat of Victoria Wilson, an independent whose term, the White House says, expired Nov. 29.

White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said there was no legal merit to Berry's claim that Wilson's term has not expired, noting a ruling by the Justice Department's legal counsel and Clinton administration records that indicate it has expired. He denied rough politics on the White House's part, saying Kirsanow was installed within the letter of the law.

Berry said the White House's moves were "about muzzling us and it's scary to have them take all of this time and energy. It makes me even more afraid for the preservation of the commission."

The dispute between the Republican White House and a prominent black civil rights leader surprised the Bush team.

By taking the disputed seat held by Wilson, Kirsanow, a member of the largely conservative Center for New Black Leadership, would effectively rein in Berry's power over the commission.

The Bush administration maintains Wilson's term ended Nov. 29, when the term of the man she succeeded, Judge A. Leon Higginbotham Jr., would have expired. Higginbotham died in 1998.. This expiration date was spelled out in the Clinton administration's paperwork on Wilson's appointment, the White House says.

Berry argued the documents are wrong and are trumped by federal law, which says new commissioners will fill a six-year term.

Democratic Reps. John Conyers of Michigan and Jerrold Nadler of New York wrote Berry on Thursday to say the law as amended in 1994 reflects her interpretation.

The commission received a letter from the Justice Department late Thursday informing Berry that she is not allowed to retain outside legal help without Attorney General John Ashcroft's permission. Berry rejected that opinion.


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KEYWORDS: civilrights; kirsanow; maryfrancesberry
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To: JeanS
Who cares? These people don't do anything but raise hell and then write reports about it.

They have no power and are simply an extension of the Democrat Party.

This farce is one ring of a three-ring circus.

81 posted on 12/07/2001 8:51:27 AM PST by sinkspur
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To: Let's Roll
bttt
82 posted on 12/07/2001 8:51:28 AM PST by kcvl
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To: JeanS
How about the White House and Justice Department declaring that the commission is functioning illegally and refuse to recognize or enforce any of its pronouncements until the new member is seated.

I mean, it's not like the Civil Rights Commission has its own enforcement arm. Without the Justice Department doing its heavy lifting, it's toothless and powerless.

83 posted on 12/07/2001 8:52:15 AM PST by BlueLancer
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To: Publius
Cruz Reynoso! Boy, that's a name I haven't heard in years!

In 1986, Reynoso, Grodin and Rose Bird were voted off the California Supreme Court by an angry electorate. Grodin and Reynoso were dumped by a 2-1 margin, and Bird by 3-1.

Ahhh... one of those rare moments of clarity in California electoral politics. Tired of having our will pushed aside by an anti-death penalty court, we cleaned house on them. That was glorious... truly glorious.

84 posted on 12/07/2001 8:52:59 AM PST by kezekiel
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To: Carolina
Hey she is granted her commission fair and square as Queen of the Zulus and that is a lifetime appointment. Ha! Please don't tell me only one person out of millions in this country is eligible to be appointed to this fill the seats on the commission. Amend the law to state that one 6 year term is all one gets. End of story.
85 posted on 12/07/2001 8:53:33 AM PST by The Bolt
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To: Psycho_Bunny
se*di*tion (noun)

[Middle English, from Middle French, from Latin sedition-, seditio, literally, separation, from se- apart + ition-, itio active of going, from ire to go -- more at SECEDE, ISSUE]

First appeared 14th Century

: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority

86 posted on 12/07/2001 8:55:04 AM PST by homeschool mama
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To: JeanS; All
Victoria Wilson
Vice President and Associate Publisher
Alfred A. Knopf

I have heard that it is Alfred A. Knopf that is publishing x42's book. The incestuous relationships among the Dems continue to appall me.

87 posted on 12/07/2001 8:55:24 AM PST by kayak
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To: Havisham
Berry hasn't won...Bush is giving her enough rope to hang herself. Calm down and watch. ;o)
88 posted on 12/07/2001 8:55:59 AM PST by homeschool mama
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To: Havisham
Nope, not humiliation. He is well aware of what is going on, and I think is to be commended for taking the position and sitting quietly while the Republicans tried to get Berry to see reason. All was recorded as proof of her malfeasance.

Berry was just dying for a big confrontation...she probably had reporters and cameras at the ready. Not much drama in what transpired, though. You KNOW she was wanting a big scene, because she told Al Gonzalez he would have to send federal marshals. That is what she wanted.

Instead, the Administration will move as quickly as possible using the law and the courts. She will not see it coming until its too late. Heheheh.

89 posted on 12/07/2001 8:56:12 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: JeanS
Why didn't the other three 'pubs walk out and refuse to participate in any votes/meetings with the ex-member still in the chamber?
90 posted on 12/07/2001 8:56:34 AM PST by balrog666
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To: The Bolt
Queen of the Zulus

HAHAHAHAHAHA! How deliciously un-PC!

91 posted on 12/07/2001 8:56:47 AM PST by Carolina
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To: ken5050
the liberal wing of the dems is looking to manufacture an issue, create a scene

You nailed it !

They're thinking, "Let's create enough of a controversy here that they'll back down and we'll come out smelling like the victims. While they're fighting the war, we'll muscle in on more territory."

92 posted on 12/07/2001 8:56:55 AM PST by sanchmo
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To: JeanS
Democratic Reps. John Conyers of Michigan and Jerrold Nadler of New York wrote Berry on Thursday to say the law as amended in 1994 reflects her interpretation.

Then I guess that settles it.. That kinda sucks. I assumed it was the judiciary that interpreted the law.. Oh well, thanks for clarifying, Reps. Conyers & Nadler. </sarcasm

93 posted on 12/07/2001 8:59:05 AM PST by fm1
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To: kezekiel
That was glorious... truly glorious.

It is also the story of how Gov. George Deukmejian, the California Republican Party and a team of very savvy political consultants took four very unruly PAC's, got them to merge and work together from one play book, and then manipulated the Los Angeles Times and the state's liberal establishment into making a series of egregious mistakes.

Someone ought to write a book.

94 posted on 12/07/2001 8:59:58 AM PST by Publius
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To: JeanS
(Yawn) More in your face democrative bull crap...

I say fire Berry and replace her, these are appointed positions. Appointment is by the President.

95 posted on 12/07/2001 9:00:04 AM PST by wwjdn
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To: kezekiel
January '04, Bush's last year in office.

May I correct you? I believe that is Bush's last year of his first term and he still will have 4 more years in office. :)

96 posted on 12/07/2001 9:01:03 AM PST by DeckTheHallsHolly
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To: kezekiel
Grodin and Reynoso were dumped by a 2-1 margin, and Bird by 3-1.

I enjoyed being part of that effort.

97 posted on 12/07/2001 9:01:12 AM PST by Osinski
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To: UB355
W will handle this correctly and I predict the results will be quite satisfying.

Geez, I hope you're right, and I hope you know something. A person close to the Commission is a friend of mine, and I just sent off an e-mail, asking what help my friend expects from the administration. If I find out anything I'm free to pass along, I will. (That's not likely, by the way; I'm likely to be asked to keep mum.)

98 posted on 12/07/2001 9:01:55 AM PST by MoralSense
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To: balrog666
You raise a good point. I wonder if they need 4 or 5 members for a quorum. If 4, the 3 GOPers plus the new person could hold meetings without Berry. If 5 are needed, there is no quorum IF the 3 GOPer's walk out, since there are only 4 "legitimate" members left.
99 posted on 12/07/2001 9:01:58 AM PST by Defiant
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To: Steven W.; JeanS
It's a moot point - Clinton's appointment specifically stated, in writing, that the term would expire on 11/29/01

But "Berry argued the documents are wrong and are trumped by federal law, which says new commissioners will fill a six-year term... AND Democratic Reps. John Conyers of Michigan and Jerrold Nadler of New York wrote Berry on Thursday to say the law as amended in 1994 reflects her interpretation".

I will try to get a copy of the amended law before I make my calls demanding BERRY also be removed. Thanks for the links JeanS.

100 posted on 12/07/2001 9:02:04 AM PST by StarFan
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