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Black world conference loses its audience
Washington Times ^ | Saturday, December 1, 2001 | Steve Miller

Posted on 12/01/2001 12:20:56 AM PST by JohnHuang2

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:49:40 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: AnnaZ
I saw a young boy wearing a denim jacket which had a beautiful painting of a soaring eagle on the front and the back of the jacket. I wonder if that would have been popular before 9/11? I complimented him (he was about 7-8) so the mother or grandmother who was with him (who probably bought the jacket) would know that I also think our symbolic eagle is a great design for making a 'fashion' statement. Just trying to do my bit to promote patriotic thoughts!
41 posted on 12/02/2001 8:45:29 PM PST by maica
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To: JohnHuang2
Mayor CAMPBELL was there mocking the American flag!!
42 posted on 12/03/2001 4:40:36 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Trueblackman
The trouble is that they have no solutions to the problems besetting blacks around the world, said Kevin L. Martin, advisor to Project 21, a black Republican advocacy group.

Has there ever been a time when you or anyone from Project 21 has ever been invited to one of these things? I am just curious.

43 posted on 12/03/2001 4:47:04 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: KC_Conspirator
No there has never been a forum I have been asked to attend where we have talk about solving any of the related problems of the black community.
44 posted on 12/03/2001 5:56:39 AM PST by Trueblackman
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To: Trueblackman
That reminds of a passage out on the Drudge report on Bernie Goldblum's new book "Bias".

"I once asked Susan Zirinksy, a first-rate journalist who had been the CBS EVENING NEWS senior producer in Washington (she's now executive producer of 48 HOURS), how many times she went to conservative women's groups for on-camera reactions either to Supreme Court decisions of to votes in Congress regarding women's issues. She thought about it for a few seconds, then told me she couldn't think of a single time." Goldberg explains: "Zirinksy didn't act out of malice. She didn't conspire with anyone to freeze out conservative women. She just thought NOW was the logical place to go. NOW wasn't a liberal group, to Zirinksy. It was a sensible, reasonable, and rational group."

Sound familiar? I have no doubt that you and Project 21 are treated this way as well. Any serious discussion on black issues would have to to include you, and until then...

45 posted on 12/03/2001 6:33:41 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: JohnHuang2
"You have to think black 100 percent of the time," Mr. Smiley

WTF does this mean?

46 posted on 12/03/2001 6:41:05 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: viligantcitizen
every one of us can do our part.

Including the blacks! The "disadvantaged black" whining is really getting old. The black middle class is the fastest growing segment of our society.

They have as much opportunity as any other folks in our nation today; they just insist on living in the past.

We have that plague of white man's guilt, too. This country paid for slavery at a cost of over 600,000 lives. Our debt is clear. Now let's get on with livin!

47 posted on 12/03/2001 6:50:22 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: NewDestiny; rebuildus; Cortez; abigail2; HangFire; SixString; incindiary; feinswinesuksass...
"You have to think black 100 percent of the time."

So much for "togetherness".

How about "thinking American 100 percent of the time"?

**P.S. Tavis Smiley is a nitwit.**

48 posted on 12/03/2001 10:41:06 PM PST by Mercuria
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To: Mercuria
I second that emotion, Smaley is a twit.
49 posted on 12/03/2001 10:44:03 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Trueblackman
I'm sleepy beyond description, but I must get this message to you while it's fresh on my mind.

To quote you: "We Black Conservatives do have something in the works. I am hoping to bring Project21 BOND BAMPAC The New Black Leadership Council and other black conservative groups together in the next two months to offer solutions and not excuse for black Americans."

My fellow conservative black American, you just lost the war right there. Let's look at it.

First, you are engaging in battle using the Left's weapon. What weapon is this? Their language!

I know what you mean, but I must point out that you are using the infantilizing rhetoric of lefties, which, when taken and parsed correctly, looks at the whole of American blacks as children.

"Leadership," "civil rights leader," "black leaders," "black leadership." Leaders? Who says that grown men and women who are free to make up their own minds need anyone to lead them? The media looks to this so-called "leadership" in the persons of Jackson, Sharpton, and Mfume when they want the so-called "official" word on the so-called state of "black America." They look to these charlatans as though the embody the whole of American black citizens. No, we need to cease using this language and start anew.

Since we are talking about the political realm, we must choose our targets and pick our battles wisely. The first step in this, IMHO, is using language that defines us as we see fit. Therefore, I stopped calling myself a "black conservative." Politically speaking, conservatism is equated with racism, and the adjective "black" modifying the noun "conservative" defines "black conservatives" as Uncle Toms. All they need to hear is that a brother is a conservative, and the message of "sell out" is loudly uttered and the message attempting to be heard gets lost.

Let's flip the script.

Instead of calling myself a "black conservative," I refer to myself as a "conservative black." Why? Let's parse it.

Since true black "authenticism" is the first alleged barometer by which most other blacks will listen, we need to keep the focus on the word "black." Yes, we are conservatives. Yes, we are black. Therefore, we are "conservative blacks" because we in no way feel ashamed of our history or heritage.

Think about it. The swapping positions of two mere words changes the meaning, doesn't it? It removes doubt in more ways, but I'll give you just one more instance of it. Language is powerful. When the word black is used to describe something, like a black sweater, it is viewed subconsciously as something you can put on and/or take off at will. Just switching the two words throws a monkey wrench in the propaganda game. The emphasis stays on the word "black."

NOTE: For white brothers and sisters who are reading this, do not mistake what I'm saying as if it is more important to be black than it is to be an American. I'm not saying that at all because I am an American first and foremost, even before being a black man.

Moving forward, the same game applies to saying "American blacks" as opposed to "black Americans."

I see you mentioned on NewsMax.com and here sometimes as a "civil rights leader." I see the same thing when it comes to Rev. Jesse Peterson. Each time I hear the term "civil rights leader" to describe you I cringe. Why? The term "civil rights leader" has been burned permanently, indelibly into the American psyche as belonging to the left. Therefore, it is to be shunned vehemently.

We need a new way of describing what you are attempting to do with conservative black groups. I don't know what to call it right now, but there needs to be a way to define it differently. If and when you convene this meeting, it will no doubt be called a "civil rights" meeting. I don't know, maybe you should call it a "Conservative Black Summit."

I'm extremely proud of what you are doing, and I want you to keep doing it. I wish there was a way for me to belong to your group while living here in Dallas.

Keep on truckin'.

50 posted on 12/03/2001 11:45:43 PM PST by rdb3
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To: Mercuria
One of my pet peeves is how the media slavishly calls on people like Jackson & Sharpton ( or Smiley ) every time they want a "black spokeman"- while studiously ignoring those like Rev. Peterson, Walter Williams, Allan Keyes, Thomas Sowell, and others who are a lot closer to the thought & ideas of the black people I know.
51 posted on 12/04/2001 1:13:49 AM PST by backhoe
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To: JohnHuang2; Mercuria

Before the opening session ended, Cosme Torres, deputy ambassador to the United Nations for Cuba, praised his communist country's civil rights record.
     "Cuba now has a school of medicine with people attending from 24 countries," said Mr. Torres, who received strong applause several times during his five-minute address. He noted that the United States has "millions of people without health care."
     "Cuba is right there, ready to build solidarity for the revolution," Mr. Torres promised. "The Negroes of Cuba day after day make the dream of their ancestors a reality."


It's painfully obvious to me that these people are socialists and want nothing more than to turn this country into a socialist welfare state.

They have a double standard for socialists and all others. What would happen if anyone but a socialist referred to blacks as 'negroes'?

52 posted on 12/04/2001 3:44:55 AM PST by Norb2569
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To: Trueblackman
"We Black Conservatives do have something in the works. I am hoping to bring Project21 BOND BAMPAC The New Black Leadership Council and other black conservative groups together in the next two months to offer solutions and not excuse for black Americans."

Good to hear. May fortune smile on your endeavors.

53 posted on 12/04/2001 3:58:30 AM PST by FairWitness
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To: JohnHuang2
In Atlanta, Ga. all they can raise is 700 people to listen to Sharpton? I would call this a total failure. Half of that 700 had to be bussed in from somewhere to stuff the hall.
54 posted on 12/04/2001 4:00:33 AM PST by Flint
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To: exmoor
"ATLANTA — The State of the Black World Conference was experiencing serious attendance problems...where their jails filled ?"

I assume you mean "were their jails filled?" I suppose you're attempting to be funny; if not, the statement is racist stereotyping. The article seemed to indicate that attendance was low due to blacks being tired of hearing the same old rhetoric.

55 posted on 12/04/2001 6:13:23 AM PST by itsinthebag
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To: itsinthebag
I suppose you're attempting to be funny; What do you think.?..Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management.
56 posted on 12/04/2001 6:47:21 AM PST by exmoor
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To: Mercuria
"The State of the Black World Conference was experiencing serious attendance problems yesterday after the Rev. Jesse Jackson and the Rev. Al Sharpton left town."

Think of the implications of that!!
Good gawd; it takes those two to draw 700 people?
Proves to me just how fringe this attitude is amoung certain racial groups; in spite of what the imbeciles have presented in an effort to explain the attendence drop.
These people; they're flat-out embarrassing to themselves.

"'Cuba now has a school of medicine with people attending from 24 countries,' said Mr. Torres, who received strong applause several times during his five-minute address. He noted that the United States has 'millions of people without health care.'"

That's right, Mr. Torres.
Would you like to speak on & address the root-causes of so many people being born into such abject poverty?
Seems your side has an over-abundence of, "responsible parents" possessed of absolutely no means of supporting themselves; let alone the children they're *continuing* to produce?
Sounds just like the kind of people Cuba could *really* use more of, huh; why those li'l overacheievers, they. ~oy~
..or lemme guess: it's these people's, "Right" to reproduce until the system's overflowing with more, overachievers?

"'Cuba is right there, ready to build solidarity for the revolution,' Mr. Torres promised."

Cuba's right there alright; & I'm absolutely certain Fidel & his Huba would be thrilled to welcome a loudmouthed ignoramous just like you, Mr Torres, with open arms. eh?
The consummate windbag.
An asshole of unspeakable proportion playing jester to the clowns if ever there were.

"'The Negroes of Cuba day after day make the dream of their ancestors a reality.'"

Oh yea!!

...their dream-font overfloweths with visions of their unearned bounty; I'd bet!

57 posted on 12/04/2001 7:29:35 AM PST by Landru
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To: AnnaZ
A close friend called me on Friday BESIDE HERSELF over comments she heard one of them (Sharpton/Jackson/etc.) say that was aired on the radio. It was re: the "don't salute the flag" thingy... "We don't owe this country ANYTHING! America owes US!"

Hmmm....Sharpton is planning to run for president. Is this going to be the platform on which he runs? How about using it as his campaign slogan..."We don't owe this country ANYTHING! America owes US!" If he should ever get far enough as to actually run for the highest office, this quote would make a wonderful Freeper sign for Freeping him wherever he goes!

58 posted on 12/04/2001 7:40:32 AM PST by WomanofStandard
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To: Mercuria
Thanks for the flag!
59 posted on 12/04/2001 7:41:27 AM PST by WomanofStandard
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To: Trueblackman
Don't forget Larry Elder!
60 posted on 12/04/2001 7:53:03 AM PST by janetgreen
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