Objectively Pro-Terrorist Pacifists

Mercurial Times ^ | November 8, 2001 (but more on that below) | Aaron Armitage

[A.J.Armitage]

Well, you can't get everything right.

[A.J.Armitage]

You're right. Your statement that we should "Get bin Laden, than over and out for good," is my middle course, between starting a wider war and pacifism.

[BikerNYC]

If my wife were being assulted and I didn't use force to stop it, I'd say that was evil.

Even if you believed that, as a result, she would spend eternity in heaven while you, for using force, would be condemned to hell, never to see her again?

[Uriel1975]

If my wife were being assulted and I didn't use force to stop it, I'd say that was evil. ~~~ Even if you believed that, as a result, she would spend eternity in heaven while you, for using force, would be condemned to hell, never to see her again?

Force in defense of Rights is Moral.

If the thief is caught while breaking in and is struck so that he dies, there will be no bloodguiltiness on his account. -- Exodus 22:2

DoughtyOne would perhaps be in danger of hellfire if he were to fail to defend his family; but the employment of Force in defense of his family might well earn him "Good and Faithful Servant" stripes on his "Godly Husband" uniform.

[RedWing9]

Well done A.J.! Keep 'em coming. I always enjoy your writing.

I must add, that it is always most enjoyable to read your responses to those that question your thesis. Your wisdom belies your age! :)

Thanks for the bump!

[SusanUSA]

By hampering defense and retaliation, pacifism is always on the side of the aggressor, and as such is fundamentally immoral in its effects.

Pacifism means passive victimhood before anyone who cares to assert himself by force

Pacifism would do to nations what gun control does to individuals: leave them helpless before masked men with dark intentions

A most excellent essay BUMP to you, A.J.Thank you for the ping!
Is it okay if I use this elsewhere?

[DoughtyOne]

Have you ever heard of a group called the children of Israel? Guy, the Lord God sanctioned their battles. How can you say that I would not be saved because I defended my wife? I think you guys have a twisted vision of what the Lord expects from us. To go out and kill for no reason is not right, but to kill in the defense of what is right, is a noble cause.

[A.J.Armitage]

Sure, just make sure the byline's there.

[SusanUSA]

Of course!
And, AJ, really, really good work!

[A.J.Armitage]

And, AJ, really, really good work!

Thanks.

[mafree]

BTTT- the article is right about the pitfalls of pacifism but it may be lost on those who are determined to be that way.

[WolfsView]

Sorry aout that AJ, things have been really busy for me lately, I hope they calm down soon and I can get back to normal.

[Dustbunny]

Bump

[BikerNYC]

How can you say that I would not be saved because I defended my wife?

I'm not saying it that. I'm saying that this is what the Amish sincerely believe in. You claimed not to defend your wife was evil, and I said that the pacifism of the Amish did not appear evil to me. If you sincerely held a belief that committing violence was a horrible sin, then it is not unreasonable to me that you would let your wife die (who also is a pacifist) and go to heaven, with you to join her someday (as opposed to you going to hell for committing an act of violence).

I think you guys have a twisted vision of what the Lord expects from us.

I don't have any view of what the lord expects from us.

To go out and kill for no reason is not right, but to kill in the defense of what is right, is a noble cause.

I don't disagree. I'm not a pacifist myself. But I don't agree that a sincerely held belief in pacifism cannot also be a noble cause.

[harpseal]

bump for an exellent work

[Diamond]

Excellent #37. It's nice to see the priorities in war gotten straight for a change.

Cordially,

[weikel]

Isolation was fine in a peaceful world dominated by European powers their r just too many threats today.