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Objectively Pro-Terrorist Pacifists
Mercurial Times ^ | November 8, 2001 (but more on that below) | Aaron Armitage

Posted on 11/12/2001 12:06:18 PM PST by A.J.Armitage

During WWII, George Orwell observed that pacifism was objectively pro-fascist because it weakened the war effort and thus was, in its effects, in favor of the other side. Honesty compels us to the same conclusion about some of our fellow countrymen: they are with the terrorists.

There are two wrong ways to react to the terrorist attacks on September 11, neither of which, fortunately, is being pursued by our government so far. One is to create a wider war between the West and Islam, which we would win in the end, but at too high a cost to ourselves. A lesser consideration against it is that it would punish many innocent Middle Easterners. Such a war may ultimately occur, but it's an outcome we should try to avoid. The other is to do too little. Bin Laden probably expected one of these two reactions, either of which would have played into his hands. The first would radicalize relatively moderate Middle Easterners in his direction, and the second would make our nation look weak and increase his prestige. Bush has wisely steered between these two, following a policy of attacking the terrorist and their supporters, but not taking unnecessary action.

Neoconservatives, who've been spoiling for a fight since the end of the Cold War, are supporting the first wrong way. On the other side is a certain pacifistic segment of the Left. Only pacifists can oppose our current actions, because it would be hard to imagine a situation that more justifies a military response than an attack killing thousands of people and biological warfare against the American people. If you don't support action after this, you can never support it. A typical pacifist sentiment was expressed by Alice Walker when she said of bin Laden, "But what would happen to his cool armor if he could be reminded of all the good, nonviolent things he has done? Further, what would happen to him if he could be brought to understand the preciousness of the lives he has destroyed? I firmly believe the only punishment that works is love."

She doesn't understand that they aren't like us. Some of the things Americans consider essential to humanity turn out not to be so: they are alien to Islamic fundamentalists. This fact ought to be evident from the fact that they consider killing innocent people a meritorious act (which in itself destroys her "argument"; she presumes bin Laden shares her moral universe, and he doesn't). Even the non-terrorist Islamic fundamentalists aren't like us. Look, for example, at the way they treat women. In large parts of the Islamic world, they mutilate girls' vaginas to prevent them from having sexual pleasure when they become women. In Islamic fundamentalist countries, even ones on our side, women must have their faces hidden and are often denied education or the right to work. No man who has ever experienced romantic love for a woman could ever tolerate such customs. The Taliban outlawed music. The things that compose our daily lives and our whole life experiences are unknown to them.

The most fundamental problem with pacifism is that it makes no distinction between aggression and defense or retaliation. Pacifism cannot but place a rapist and a woman who kills a would-be rapist on the same moral level. No doubt many, if not most, actual pacifists would never do that, but this is their common sense overcoming their ideological principles. By hampering defense and retaliation, pacifism is always on the side of the aggressor, and as such is fundamentally immoral in its effects. It is an ideology dedicated to making good men do nothing, or at least nothing effectual.

Pacifism means passive victimhood before anyone who cares to assert himself by force. No wonder so many of the same people support gun control. Left unsaid, of course, is how gun control is to be enforced without the use or at least threat of violence. I suppose gun owners are supposed to see the "light" and turn their guns in. This will happen about the same time Osama bin Laden understands the preciousness of the lives he destroyed. Pacifism is dangerously disconnected from the real world; in order to work, everyone would have to abjure any and all violence. There is such a thing as evil in this world, and there are evil people who must be resisted.

Pacifism would do to nations what gun control does to individuals: leave them helpless before masked men with dark intentions.


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The owner of the site I was at has been too busy to update his site, so now I'm at Mercurial Times. Maybe I'll ultimately be at both. This one was written a few weeks ago, but it's only just been posted. Here it is.
1 posted on 11/12/2001 12:06:19 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
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To: *Paleo_list; *libertarians; OWK; Anthem; Publius; diotima; Aristophanes; CatoRenasci; Romulus...
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2 posted on 11/12/2001 12:07:26 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
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Bump it, Dano
3 posted on 11/12/2001 12:12:05 PM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: A.J.Armitage
Bump!!
4 posted on 11/12/2001 12:17:43 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: A.J.Armitage
bump for later perusal. Thanks for the ping.
5 posted on 11/12/2001 12:19:19 PM PST by Protagoras
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To: A.J.Armitage
I'd like to pin this article to Lew Rockwell's chest....With an air nailer.
7 posted on 11/12/2001 12:23:40 PM PST by 11B3
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To: A.J.Armitage
Nice one.

The most fundamental problem with pacifism is that it makes no distinction between aggression and defense or retaliation.

I've heard it described (really!) as an opportunity to turn the other cheek. Taken to its logical end, this would require us to abolish all police forces and dismantle the entire criminal justice system.

It would work fine "if everybody would just...." But of course they don't.

She doesn't understand that they aren't like us.

Absolutely correct. There are those for whom a recitation of our "unalienable rights" will simply cause them to chuckle before they shoot.

8 posted on 11/12/2001 12:25:15 PM PST by r9etb
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So does collectivism, A.J. We've learned that, haven't we?

Exactly, except that the masked men are sent by your own government with your own money.

9 posted on 11/12/2001 12:25:54 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
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Add me to your list s'il vous plait!
11 posted on 11/12/2001 12:28:05 PM PST by Maelstrom
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the only punishment that works is love...

does this person understand the difference between law and gospel?
12 posted on 11/12/2001 12:28:44 PM PST by mlocher
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To: tex-oma
By "cost to ourselves", I mean cost in lives, both of our soldiers and of people getting killed in the terrorism it would inspire. The government's purpose is to protect innocent Americans, so that's the highest consideration. Of course innocent lives, of any nationality, are more important than monetary cost.
14 posted on 11/12/2001 12:32:51 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
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No, you miss my point. Americans were helpless before terrorists, despite our elaborate, exorbitantly expensive, collectivist "defense." The individual is disarmed by the government, and left vulnerable, yet we are told to trust the government to do what it most emphatically cannot do....protect us.

You're right, at least about terrorism. The government indeed has failed to protect us from it.

15 posted on 11/12/2001 12:35:08 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
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To: mlocher
the only punishment that works is love...

Ridiculous statement to begin with..."love" a punishment?

Anyways, who is she, the "6th" Beatle?..."Love, love, love...".....Get real, moron.

FMCDH

16 posted on 11/12/2001 12:36:43 PM PST by nothingnew
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Oh, leave the Amish alone. They are hardly a threat. Their pacifism is a deeply held and sincere belief based upon their religious understanding as Christians. They believe that if the result of their pacifism is death at the hands of the attacker, so be it; death is not threatening to them as Christians. If, as Christians, they believe they are living righteous lives that will lead to after-death rewards, I don't think their view is that unsound.
17 posted on 11/12/2001 12:44:09 PM PST by BikerNYC
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I didn't have the Amish in mind.
18 posted on 11/12/2001 1:01:31 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
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Good comments. It's my opinion that to resist and combat evil even by force is a noble endeavor. To remain silent and pacifist in the face of it, is evil.

Thank you.

19 posted on 11/12/2001 1:02:58 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To remain silent and pacifist in the face of it, is evil.

Oh, Amish folks ain't evil. They just mind their own business trying to live their lives in accordance with their religious beliefs, one of those beliefs being pacifism.
20 posted on 11/12/2001 1:07:38 PM PST by BikerNYC
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