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Posted on 11/07/2001 6:07:28 AM PST by Creightongrad

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To: KneelBeforeZod
"good idea, no doubt, but I'm sure that they have the ability to reject donations like this...."

Wanna bet? :)

41 posted on 11/07/2001 7:35:25 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: American Preservative
Oh my, Clinton and Willie on the same stage, and people have to pay for that too! Shoo-wee!
How Willie was ever elected Mayor is as much a mystery as how Clinton was reelected to a second term!
42 posted on 11/07/2001 7:41:19 PM PST by ladyinred
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To: Creightongrad
I LOVE IT AND WOULD LOVE TO BE A PART OF THIS. Keep me posted, I would love to donate to the slick boy.
43 posted on 11/07/2001 7:45:57 PM PST by gizman
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To: Creightongrad
Here's my 2 cent bump...
44 posted on 11/07/2001 7:58:58 PM PST by Revolting cat!
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A LINK! A LINK! MY 3 CENTS FOR A LINK THAT WORKS!
45 posted on 11/07/2001 10:20:07 PM PST by KneelBeforeZod
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To: Creightongrad
As a graduate of a Jesuit school I can't understand why they let him speak there. I'm ashamed.

Who got invites to this shindig? Most colleges hand out tickets to gigs like this as payoffs to those that donate big bucks.

Always follow the money.

46 posted on 11/07/2001 10:23:53 PM PST by Timesink
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To: KneelBeforeZod; Creightongrad
Donate Here

I just sent in my 0.03 via MasterCard!

This is brilliant!

47 posted on 11/07/2001 10:31:54 PM PST by Jen
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To: KneelBeforeZod
oh never mind, I found the missing "i" in the website....
48 posted on 11/07/2001 10:33:27 PM PST by KneelBeforeZod
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To: Creightongrad
Freepers Humiliate Bubba at Fundraiser

Check out this great report on tonight's DC FReep!

49 posted on 11/07/2001 10:35:00 PM PST by Jen
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To: SLJP; Snow Bunny; Billie; CheneyChick; lodwick; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Ping! This is a great idea.
50 posted on 11/07/2001 10:38:15 PM PST by Jen
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To: RightOnline; KneelBeforeZod
Hehehehehehehehehehe

It works!

Just got email confirmation of my $0.03 donation! ROTFL

Everybody hurry and donate before they catch on!

www.clintonpresidentialcenter.com/credit_card_contribution.html

From: "Clinton Presidential Foundation"
To: "me">
Subject: Clinton Presidential Foundation Customer Receipt/Purchase Confirmation
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 00:29:31 -0700
Thank You for your tax-deductible donation to the William J. Clinton Foundation.
========= GENERAL INFORMATION =========
Merchant : Clinton Presidential Foundation
Date/Time : 08-Nov-2001 02:29:31 AM EST
========= ORDER INFORMATION =========
Invoice :
Description : Contribution for William J. Clinton Presidential Library
Amount : 0.03 (USD)
Payment Method : MasterCard

51 posted on 11/07/2001 11:19:59 PM PST by Jen
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To: KneelBeforeZod
Nope it's still current for Visa/Mastercard. According to this from bankrate.com

No 'minimum purchase' requirements allowed By Laura A. Bruce • Bankrate.com

You stop at the neighborhood grocery store on the way home from work to pick up some milk, fresh spinach, tomatoes and a chunk of Parmesan cheese. The tab comes to $11.24; you've only got $10.

No problem. You whip out the credit card and hand it to the cashier.

He points to the small sign taped to the side of the register that says, "Credit card purchases -- $15 minimum." Great. Now you either have to drop an item or buy more than you want so you can use the card.

Did you know that retailers aren't allowed to set a minimum purchase amount for Visa or MasterCard? It's not illegal -- it's just not allowed in their contracts with the card companies.

"As long as it's not a widespread problem, I don't think you'll see a lot of enforcement," says Scott Strumello of Auriemma Consulting Group in Westbury, N.Y.

But it does seem widespread.

No bubble-gum purchases

Most people have at least seen those little signs that say you have to spend $10 or $15 or maybe even $25 if you want to use a credit card.

Auriemma Consulting surveyed 500 consumers and found that 17 percent had been told they needed to purchase a minimum amount, says Strumello.

"You're most likely to see minimums in a small independent retailer," says Strumello. "You won't see it in a major retailer. In independently owned shops where cost is a more significant factor, a merchant is counting every penny and transaction costs add up."

A Juno Beach, Fla., store owner, who wishes to remain anonymous, says the transaction costs for accepting credit cards are "totally unfair" to small retailers. "At the end of the year, it could cost a small business $2,000, depending on how much volume you do."

The costs to merchants

John Mayleben, vice president of sales and marketing at the Michigan Retailers Association, which processes credit card transactions for store owners, says there are two main fee components when merchants accept credit cards.

"The interchange fee is usually expressed as a percentage: maybe 2 percent. If you have a $2 item or a $2,000 item, that 2 percent is the same. Most credit cards also have a transaction fee: maybe 10 cents per transaction. Obviously, if you're selling $2 items that fee is a lot bigger than if you're selling $2,000 items."

The bank that issues the retailer a credit card account usually charges the transaction fee. It's another slice of the pie the retailer has to give up for accepting a card, which is why they say it's not worth it to let customers charge a buck or two.

"We have people come in here and want to use a credit card for a glass of juice," says our anonymous retailer.

"In reality, it's a violation of the contract," says Mayleben. "But there are a lot bigger fish to fry than (a small store) on the corner. If the folks from Visa or MasterCard were to knock on his door he'd be told to stop or lose his ability to accept cards."

Mayleben says the fees aren't unreasonable.

"The merchant designs a profit margin into their product to cover that fee. The Post Office did a white paper before putting credit cards into their system so you could use them to buy stamps. They calculated the cost of handling cash and checks, and it was similar to handling credit cards."

You probably shouldn't be seeing too many places pushing minimums for American Express or Discover cards, either. According to Strumello, those two cards allow minimums, but only if minimums are applied to all cards the retailer accepts. In theory then, any place that accepts MasterCard or Visa wouldn't be allowed to set a minimum for American Express or Discover.

Minding the minimum

Visa says its bylaws clearly state that merchants must not establish a minimum transaction amount. That's done, "To protect Visa cardholders so they can expect to use their cards anywhere, anyhow and anytime Visa is accepted," says a spokesman.

"If Visa finds out about a violation, Visa will issue an enforcement letter to the acquiring bank that enables the merchant to accept the card. It's up to the acquirer as to how to deal with the merchant."

MasterCard is also emphatic about dealing with violations although MasterCard deals with them directly.

What you do the next time you're told there's a minimum to use a credit card probably depends on how you feel about the issue. If you're sympathetic toward the merchant's plight you'll save the card for bigger purchases.

On the other hand, if you're trying to rack up every cent on your credit card for more frequent flier miles, you might rustle up your best steely-eyed gaze and say, "That's not allowed."

If you'd rather complain with less fanfare, write to Visa at askvisa@visa.com. MasterCard complaints will be accepted at 1-800-300-3069.-- Posted: April 18, 2001.

I'm fairly certain that another transaction fee is charged for credits as well, so if they contact you claiming a minimum amount, just have them credit the .03 back to your account, then report them to visa and/or mastercard for applying a minimum. That should really rock their world.

52 posted on 11/08/2001 1:30:47 AM PST by PeaceBeWithYou
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To: AFVetGal
ROFLOL! I just sent in my three cents as well! I once had a free beer at a bar, where I expected to stay longer and run a tab, but it was a slow night and they let the band go early, and I was only there to see them, so I asked the bartender to sign me out after one draft beer. I had no cash on me; just my credit cards. The bartender got all huffy, and said it would cost more to process the charge than the beer itself cost (very true), and said it was on the house! LOL!! Excellent idea! I have just sent in my three cents of beer money to Bubba! ;-}

Thanks for the ping, Gal!!

53 posted on 11/08/2001 2:31:02 AM PST by Beep
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To: SLJP
Two points: 1. I don't see this thread on latest posts. Am I doing something wrong? I'd like all readers to see this.

2. If you like the idea, just do it. There's no official start date. What I'd really like to do is get this out to as many people as possible and really scale this. If the libs can do a "Million Mom March" and get at least 100,000 people surely we can do as well.

The beauty of this is that it takes about .30 seconds and costs you $00.03. No wasting a whole day marching on the Mall.

54 posted on 11/08/2001 3:47:23 AM PST by Creightongrad
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To: Creightongrad
Again, I admire the time and effort FReeping the Big Creep. But my idea is so easy. That's why it has the ability to get really big, really fast. No standing outside, making signs, finding babysitters, etc.
55 posted on 11/08/2001 3:52:11 AM PST by Creightongrad
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To: Creightongrad
Most impressive. An excellent debut on FreeRepublic.

Hillary will be most displeased to have to spend her cattle trading profits, book advances, and fed.gov paycheck to run for prez, with nothing left in the campaign kitty.

You may have found the coolist financial/political leverage ever. If they refuse the donation, request a check for the refund. Coming and going, man.

56 posted on 11/08/2001 4:16:26 AM PST by FreedomFarmer
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To: FreedomFarmer
Here are three ideas to leverage this.

1. Email. Send this idea to people in your email address books. If 10,000 people on FR send it to 10 each, then 100,000 people are in on it.

2. Multiple credit cards. If each person uses five cards it gets big really fast.

3. Limbaugh. Long shot because of his dislike for activism.

Just remember that the libs are great at organizing e.g. Million Mom March. We can do better and it is essentially COSTLESS TO YOU.

57 posted on 11/08/2001 4:28:14 AM PST by Creightongrad
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To: Creightongrad
Viral marketing by email is the way to get this out to the public.
58 posted on 11/08/2001 5:33:57 AM PST by Creightongrad
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To: Creightongrad
Howdy ya'll
I just signed on to FR and this was the first post I saw. I can't tell you how satisfying it was to stick it to that "man".
59 posted on 11/08/2001 6:06:19 AM PST by Cassanova Frankenstein
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To: AFVetGal
Thanks for the link!
60 posted on 11/08/2001 6:23:44 AM PST by Tinman
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