Posted on 06/05/2004 9:26:57 AM PDT by The Mayor
Dear Friend of New Yorks Hospitality Industry
IT'S TIME TO TAKE ACTION TO AMEND THE SMOKING BAN!
URTO, along with the New York Nightlife Association, The Empire State Restaurant & Tavern Association and the Amusement and Music Operators of America, is inviting you to attend "Lobby Day" in Albany next Tuesday, June 8th, to help us lobby the state legislature for a reasonable amendment to last year's statewide smoking ban.
Legislation has been introduced in both the Assembly and Senate to allow smoking once again in bars, clubs and taverns that install state-of-the-art air filtration systems. We think this is a very reasonable compromise to the ban, since it will only impact bars and clubs - the establishments that got hit the hardest by the ban - yet will still keep the air inside clean, since the air filtration devices will only be approved by the State if they meet very strict Health Department standards for clean air.
There is a REAL CHANCE to pass the Meier-Destito Amendment - THIS YEAR!!
The time to act on this legislation is NOW!!!
The legislature is planning to wrap up their legislative session on June 22, so we only have a few short weeks left to let them know how bad this ban has been for our business. We need owners, employees, customers, suppliers up to come up to Albany next Tuesday to let our representatives know how important it is that they amend the smoking ban before they come home to seek re-election.
We will be gathering in Albany next Tuesday, June 8th at 10:00 AM. Our plan is that we will be congregating in the Assembly Parlor, which is Rm. 306 of the State Capitol. The Capitol is on State Street between S. Swan Street and Eagle Street.
If you are planning on attending, please RSVP by sending me an email at Brian.nolan@urandto.com or calling me at 212-557-5200 and I will update you on our schedule for the day.
Again, this is our last chance to amend the smoking ban this year. We need to see you up in Albany next week! Car-pools are available. Thanks again for your help.
Sincerely,
Brian Nolan
Exec Director
United Restaurant & Tavern Owners of New York, Inc.
305 Madison Ave, Suite 1946, New York, NY 10165
URTO-NY Phone 212 557 5200
PS. Cannot Make it..then write, fax, call or e-mail your Senator and Assembly-member.
New York State Legislature
NY State Assembly
NY State Senate
Send a short note indicating your hope for their support of the MEIER – DESTITO Bill now being considered in both houses, in the Senate and Assembly Health Committees.
I am running for the Assembly, 144th district against Sam Hoyt.
Conservative endorsed Thursday night
Republican this week.
I will also try for Independent
Hey, that's fantastic! Good luck my friend! Just one last question- is it a democrat in office now or a republican that's not going to run any more?
democrat
Conservatives back Swanick's Assembly bid By ROBERT J. McCARTHY News Political Reporter 6/4/2004
Good luck Mayor!
Don't you DARE try to be the martyr here. I will post in here what you sent to me in FReep mail! Personal attacks??? Ganged up on???? YOU started this my young friend. If ANYone was ganged up on, it was YOU. I didn't start this. YOU did.
Re: Lobbying Day in Albany..this coming Tuesday
From cyberjet31 | 06/06/2004 7:33:43 AM EDT replied
you have got to be kidding me! I thought I was here talking with another adult, but I guess not. I thought that I was one of the youngest here on FR (i'm 17). Smoking killed my grandfather- is that not proof enough?! I was being calm and reserved before, but why don't I let it all out. Just the other day, smoking was linked to more types of cancer. Smoking is not good for you. Do you not see that? There is a reason why they say "Don't Smoke" and guess what- it is GRIMEY and GROSS. Thetruth.com's aggenda? to OPEN YOUR EYES. Talking about mental size, i've been trying to start a debate and you just keep going after me personally! If you think that second hand smoke does not kill, then you sure as hell are going to be in for a big surprise one day.
Lastly, believe me, it is not thetruth.com that swayed me for crap. I have been doing research on this for the past 2 years- I have not found one good thing about smoking. By the way, thetruth.com, they have on their resources page, research done by universities and government agencies, and docs from the ACTUAL COMPANIES stating how bad it is! If you would like, I would be more than happy to send you a research paper that i did where i got an A+, and you can look at my sources at the end and see for yourself.
Are you so closed minded? If so, I feel sorry for you.
Excuse me, but the truth.com sucks the big one! You are easily swayed. You believe what someone writes that YOU agree with.
Thankyou, I'll try to find it online..
Wow- basically what I was saying before- and the example of my dislike for smoking. I'm not trying to be a martyr- I was trying to stop some sort of debate going on with others and me before it got to the point where I would have to answer so many e-mails. Being that it is very hard to express emotions online without the use of emotion faces, I think it is easy to see how someone might misunderstand the mood being set by posters.
I was going to just let this all go, that is why I sent that stuff to you through Freep Mail, I didn't want to get into some big thing with all the people on this thread. I even said that if anyone wanted to DRAG THIS ON to e-mail me through freep mail.
By the way, the 2nd thing in red that I wrote was a spin off of your "Are you easily swayed? Do you believe everything you read? If so, I feel sorry for you" that you sent me in freep mail.
The whole point of what I said in my post was to set differences aside being that even if we don't agree on somethings, we agree on most, and would be more effective if we were not feuding like this.
To close this thing, I will let it out: I don't think smoking is good for you. Just note that I never said anything about how I felt on the law (just on smoking in general!)... If people don't agree here, that is fine, it's a free country. We can agree to disagree, because if we like it or not, I don't think that either of us are going to be changing our minds any time soon. What's been said, has been said, and what's done is done; It might not be easy now, but I say lets put this behind us and work togelther to help re-elect our president.
No problem young one.
Fantastic! See, when conservatives put their heads togelther, we can do anything!
Too bad that some politicians can't seem to figure that out, haha.
Thankyou, I found it with the info you gave me.
I also found out today that a friend of mine, a former town councilman from Grand Island
wants to challange Hoyt in the democrat primary.
I will be meeting him shortly for a discussion of upcoming events.
It is going to be an interesting election season.
In other action, Conservatives endorsed County Legislator Mark J.F. Schroeder, a Democrat seeking the Assembly seat being vacated by Brian M. Higgins of Buffalo;
Rus Thompson, a registered Conservative from Grand Island, against incumbent Democratic Assemblyman Sam Hoyt of Buffalo.
The party also endorsed for re-election these incumbents: State Sen. William T. Stachowski, D-Buffalo; State Sen. Dale M. Volker, R-Depew; State Sen. Mary Lou Rath, R-Williamsville; Assemblywoman Sandra Lee Wirth, R-Elma; Assemblyman Paul A. Tokasz, D-Cheektowaga; and Assemblyman James P. Hayes, R-Williamsville.
Mayor, just something that might be of help to you. the dem's have something called "21st century democrats" where they give money to lower office democrats to get a grass roots thing going, you might want to check the RNC to see if there is something like that so it can help you out.
Sam Hoyt has 140,000 in his warchest.
I need big time funds!
You've got my support!!!!!!
I can't vote for you, living where I do - but you know I'm with you!!!!
The lawmakers have their "own" agenda, which isn't good for the constituents. I found that out long ago. Once in office, they do what they want to do! :(
"I would be more than happy to send you a research paper that i did where i got an A+, and you can look at my sources at the end and see for yourself."
It's easy to get an A+ when you support the indoctrination center's agenda. Something every "conservative" teen should be proud of!
Thank you!
These are just businesses listed in New York.
Of course not all affected are listed.
Businesses Harmed by Smoking Bans
Caffe on the Green Bar/Restaraunt 35% New York N Y
Bar business fell about 35 percent immediately after the ban. It has picked up since he added a "butt hut," an outdoor tent where patrons may smoke, but it's still less than before the ban.
Aessa Bar/Restaurant 35% 6 New York NY
American Legion Private Club 60% 50% Elmira Heights NY
American Legion Post 1041 Bingo Hall 68% Buffalo NY
Amherst Bowling Center Bowling Alley Closed 100% Buffalo NY
Argyle's EasyStreet Tavern Tavern 12% Cortland NY
Athens Cafe Restaurant 55% 10 Astoria NY
B&G Bar and Grill Bar/Restaurant 30% Buffalo NY
Barrie's Tavern Tavern 40% Syracuse NY
Bec's Ivy Grill Bar & Grill 23% 3 Oneida NY
Blarney Stone Bar/Restaurant 15% 1 New York NY
Blessed Sacrament Church Bingo Hall 50% Albany NY
Blondie's Tavern Tavern 25% Elmira Heights NY
Brazen Head Pub Tavern 40% Monroe NY
Brown Shanty Tavern 20% 1 Watertown NY
Buoy's Dockside Restaraunt 30% Brewerton NY
Buoy's Dockside Tavern Tavern 36.5% Oswego NY
Cabaret Tavern 40% 1 Buffalo NY
Canandaigua Billiards Pool Hall 40% Canandaigua NY
Caseys Pub Tavern 35% 1 Sunnyside NY
Castle Heights Tavern Closed 100% 100% New York NY
Celtic Cultural Organization Bingo Hall 30-35% Troy NY
"From July 25 through Nov. 1, we are down about $12,000 from the same period last year."
Central Hotel Bar/Restaurant 50% Port Leyden NY
Champions Billiards Cafe Brew Pub/Pool Hall 33% Parkville NY
Chances Tavern Closed 100% 100% Falconer NY
Chili American Legion Post 1830 Private Club 70% Scottsville NY
Christanis Bar and Grill Tavern 40% Rochester NY
Clifford's Tavern Bar/Restaurant 40% Cold Brook NY
Coin Operated Amusements Vending Machines 20-50% Jamestown NY
Revenue from vending machines and games cut in half in many places.
Coldspring Volunteer Fire Dept. Tavern 50% 75% 1 Steamburg NY
The fire department owns the bar. Money from the bar buys equipment for the fire department. The income has been cut in half. This money buys new ambulances, trucks, gear ect. Remember, this all volunteer. Without the bar money we are going to have to rely on the town for revenue. You may lose your house or even someone's life without the money for the equipment.
Coleman's Irish Pub Bar/Restaurant 19% 4 Syracuse NY
Cook Bar & Grill Bar/Restaurant 40% 2 Buffalo NY
Cork and Bottle Tavern Closed 100% 100% Potville NY
Located near the PA border, this was literally a Mom and Pop business, run by a couple with no employees to "protect."
Crossroads Steak House Restaurant Closed 100% 100% Kennedy NY
D&S Diner Restaurant Closed 100% 100% Savannah NY
Sales were down $3,000 in July 2002 compared to July 2001. Hardest hit were on Friday nights and Sunday mornings.
Dadio's Central Tavern 30% Corfu NY
Damon's Tavern 40% 1 Cicero NY
Damon's Party House Tavern 40% Cicero NY
Delmar Sportsman's Tavern Tavern 30% 1 Massena NY
"We had hoped...nonsmokers who haven't been frequenting taverns due to the smoke-filled air would make up for at least some of the financial loss. Unfortunately, at least in our place, this has most definitely not happened. Our sales are at an all time low"
Desperado's Tavern 90% Wallkill NY
"I can count on my fingers the people who don't smoke who come in here. The regulars say they won't come."
Doc's little Gem Diner 27% Syracuse NY
"We fought tooth and nail and won a local County victory, only for the state to turn it over to a complete ban."
Dodesters Tavern 20% Syracuse NY
"My business is down 20% from the same period last year, even though I'm now open three more hours a day and I didn't have a kitchen then."
Eagle Beverage Company Distributor 25% N/A Oswego NY
"Deliveries to pubs and taverns have decreased substantially, greater than 25 percent."
Edigan's Restaurant Closed 100% 100% Binghamton NY
Elbo Room Tavern Closed 100% 100% New York NY
Elks Lodge (Private Club) Private Club 100% Jamestown NY
Bingo, which funded their charitable work, is now completely % shut down.
End Zone Bar/Restaurant 30% 1 Liverpool NY
Euzkadi Restaurant 50% New York NY
Fiddler's Green Tavern Closed 100% 100% New York NY
We have just lost too many customers to this law, which I did not vote for, bar owners did not vote for, bartenders did not vote for, and the public did not vote for."
Fieldstone Recreation Billiard/Bar/Snacks 40% 1 Bronx NY
Finish Line Bar/Restaurant 40% 2 Bellerose NY
Five Corners Bar/Restaurant 32 oneida NY
After 20 years of hard work this is what NY state does to us. Where are all these nonsmokers?
Fountain Bowl Bowling Alley 40% N/A 8 Jamestown NY
Freddies Bar/Restaurant 50% 3 Buffalo NY
Friar Tuck's Restaurant 50% Cotati NY
"Just as my establishment was beginning to flourish, I'm hit with this smoking ban which has killed my daytime business. People who used to stay for a couple of hours now only stay for one quick drink and leave."
Fulton Ale House Tavern 25% Fulton NY
George & Shirl's Tiny Tavern Tavern 41% Southport NY
In October 2002, the bar made $6,000. This past October, after the ban went into effect, they made just $3,500,
Golden Rail Ale House Tavern 20-25% Newburgh NY
Hancock's Hudson Tavern Bar/Restaurant 15% Rochester NY
Harry's Hanover Square Bar/Restaraunt Closed 100% 100 New York NY
"Overnight, we lost 60 percent of our evening bar trade. For the bar, it was the difference in profit and loss. Sales of expensive cigars had been almost as important as the sales of Scotch" Harry's had been in business for more than thirty years
Harter's Bar/Restaurant 40% Camden NY
Holmes & Watson's Tavern 30% Troy NY
Hotel McDonald Hotel 70% Bath NY
Jean's Bar & Grill Tavern 26% Wilson NY
Just One More Tavern 30% Bath NY
Kim's Trackside Tavern Tavern 25% 25% Auburn NY
Our local cayuga county health dept. continues to refuse to issue smoking waivers to businesses who have suffered a financial hardship.
Knights of Columbus Bingo Hall 80% Malone NY
La Bataclana Tavern Closed 100% 100% Jackson Heights NY
Le Bar Bat Tavern 100% 100% New York NY
Liberty Lanes Bowling 27% Camden NY
Mama Lena's Restaurant Closed 100% 100% Binghamton NY
Mama Lena's had been in business for more than 40 years.
Maple Tree Inn Tavern Closed 100% 100% 3 Portville NY
Mel's Place Tavern 78% 100% Falconer NY
After proving they had lost significant business, Mel's place was granted of the NY's few wavers. Their business immediately returned to the pre ban level, but the owners are worried about what will happen when the waver runs out in a year.
Metropolitan Restaurant Bar/Restaurant 25% 2 Cheektowaga NY
Middleport Inn Bar/Restaurant Closed 100% 100% 13 Middleport NY
"This damn state really knows how to kill people's dreams."
Millennium Restaurant 40% 3 New York NY
Mills Race Restaurant Bar/Restaurant 40% 2.5 Mt. Morrison NY
Nibsy's Pub Bar/Restaurant 18% Syracuse NY
O'Neill's Tavern 20% 3 New York NY
"People who don't go to pubs just don't go to pubs. They said the ban would be good for business and for employees, yet my business is down and three good staff are out of work and unable to find another job...Most of my staff are smokers, and now they're being protected from second-hand smoke."
Olympian Sumont Inc Pool Hall/Bar/Rest 40% 3 Long Island NY
Open Net Lounge Tavern 11% Massena NY
O's Place Tavern Closed 100% 100% Endicott NY
Partner's Pub Bar/Restaurant 20% 1 Johnstown NY
Patsy's Lounge Tavern 46.4% 50% 2 Jamestown NY
"I have let 2 employees go and the other 3 have had their hours cut in half."
Peter K's Bar/Restaurant 35% 2 Cheektowaga NY
Pocketeer Billiards Pool Hall 40-50% Buffalo NY
"The President says small business is the backbone of our country, NYS says screw small business just give us your money and your blood! All of it!!!!!!
Pocketeer Billiards South Pool Hall 60% Springville NY
Rafferty's Bar/Restaurant 35% 2 Syracuse NY
Richard's Ole Timer Bar/Restaurant 17% 1 Clay NY
Riverside Lanes Bowling 20% 2 Marcy NY
Roesch's Tavern 100% 100% New York NY
Lauterborn, 60, said his bar, Roesch's in Queens, saw 40 customers nightly before the ban but only about five after it. He closed in September and says his children are supporting him while he looks for work. His tavern had been a 100 year old family owned business.
Rough Kutts Tavern Tavern 21% 1 South Dayton, NY
Roy D Graves VFW Post 1194 Tavern 22% Potsdam NY
Royal Pheasant Tavern Closed 100% 100% 20 Buffalo NY
"It was so hard to make the decision to close the business. Most of our clientele were smokers and our business just dropped so dramatically, it was incredible." The Royal had been in business for 59 years.
Salingers Tavern 35% 2 Rochester NY
Sammy G's Bar/Restaurant 50% Rome NY
Sevens Bar Tavern 10% Malone NY
Seven's Bar Tavern 30% Malone NY
Shamrock Tavern Tavern 50% Oswego NY
Shamrock Tavern Tavern 50% Oswego NY
"It's not right. Our livelihood is being taken away."
Sharkey's Sports Bar and Grill Sports Bar 60% Staten Island NY
Shorty's Sports Bar & Grill Bar/Restaurant 30% Utica, NY
Slade Restaurant 40% New York NY
Slick Willie's Billiard Hall 25% Tonawanda NY
Southgate Lanes Bowling Alley/Bar 55% 7 West Seneca NY
Stumble Inn Tavern Closed 100% 100% Champlain NY
Susie's Corner Bar/Restaurant 23% 1 Buffalo NY
Swan's Tavern Closed 100% 100% 7 New York NY
"I felt bad laying off seven workers. Most of them had been with me for the five years Swan's was open. None of them had ever complained about secondhand smoke. "
Swift's Tavern 40% New York NY
"It's absolutely killed us. This time last year the bar would be packed with the after-work cocktail crowd. Now they just take a bottle of wine or a six-pack to each other's apartments, where they can smoke."
Syracuse Brigadiers Bingo Hall 61% Syracuse NY
"The hall was losing about $60,000 per month in net income for the past three months because of the smoking ban."
Taylor's Trackside Bar/Restaurant 50% Remsen NY
Temple Israel Bingo Hall 50% Albany NY
According to Herb Holland, some of the regulars told volunteers that they would abstain from playing bingo, to protest the smoking ban. He hasn't seen them since.
The Cam-Nel Tavern Closed 100% 100% Mattydale NY
The Cam-Nel had been in operation since 1952
The Dog House Bar/Restaurant 28% Utica NY
The Lodge at the Lake Inc Bar/Restaurant 50% 1 Broadalbin NY
The Loft Tavern 30% Frewsburg NY
"Our town has no attractions to draw in outsiders. We have only locals to rely on as patrons and 95% of them smoke. It will be worse when the snow sets in."
The Roadhouse Tavern 40% Brewster NY
The Royal Pheasant Restaurant Closed 100% 100% 20 Buffalo NY
The smoking ban caused an instant 80 percent decrease in revenue. The Royal Phesant had been a family business for 58 years.
Thompson Road Tavern Bar/Restaurant 25% Syracuse NY
Tommys Park Place Tavern 40% Syracuse NY
Unique Lounge Bar/Restaurant 40% 4 Sloan NY
Varick Restaurant Inc Bar/Restaurant 35% Utica NY
VFW Post 6533 Private Club 20% 25% East Randolph NY
Village Tavern Bar/Restaurant 10% Marcellus NY
Viva Debris Comedy & Magic Club 30 30% Syracuse NY
Voelker Bowling Center Bowling Alley 30-40% Buffalo NY
The smoking ban hit us like an anvil, curtailing bowling activity by 30 to 40 percent and the bar business by 20 to 30 percent.
Whispers Cocktail Lounge Bar/Night Club 50% 90% Middletown NY
Windsor Ale House Tavern Closed 100% 100% Jamestown NY
Woody's Pub Bar/Restaurant 25% 3 Lockawanna, NY
Ye Olde Anchor Inn Bar/Restaurant 18% 22% Lakewood NY
The action is going on in Albany right now, I wish I could be there. These people need all the help they can get!
Butt, butt, butt.............bans are GOOD for business.........that's what all the antis say...........
I know a bunch of the people that are there - I'm sure I'll be getting up dates later in the day.
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