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Democrats scoff at statewide smoking ban
Access North Georgia ^ | 2/13/04 | Doug Gross

Posted on 02/13/2004 12:46:00 PM PST by qam1

The Associated Press - ATLANTA

Democrats had sharp words Tuesday for Republicans who want to ban smoking in all public places including restaurants.

Theyre looking to snuff out the plan.

Its an overreach, said House Rules Chairman Calvin Smyre, a Columbus Democrat. People are always talking about intrusion by government, and this is another one. Its another way of denying local rule.

The smoking ban, introduced by Republican Sen. Don Thomas on Tuesday, could set up another battle between the Democrat-controlled House and GOP-controlled Senate.

Twenty-five of the states 56 senators signed on to the bill, but House leaders hinted the measure would have no chance in their chamber. Even Republicans in the House said they had wanted to tread slowly on a measure to ban smoking even in bars and restaurants.

I support public smoke-free places as a general rule, but I want to look at the details before putting my support behind it, House Republican Whip Jerry Keen said.

Thomas, a doctor who is leading the anti-smoking charge in the Senate, concedes it will be a challenge to persuade House members to accept a statewide ban.

We have already talked to a lot of people in the House, Thomas said. I am finding good support over there, but it will be a tough battle.

The Republican rift has surfaced before. Last year, GOP members in the two chambers publicly clashed over a hike in the tobacco tax. Republican Gov. Sonny Perdue and his Senate colleagues endorsed the idea, but House Republicans fought it. The tax eventually passed, largely because House Democrats signed on.

Rep. Lynn Westmoreland, former House Republican leader, said he feared his colleagues in the Senate again strayed from their conservative roots.

Im a free-enterprise kind of guy, Westmoreland said. If I want to open a restaurant for cigar smokers or whatever, I ought to be able to do that.

Thomas agrees his ban is broad, covering bars, restaurants, bingo halls, stadiums, convention centers and common areas in apartment buildings.

Private homes would be exempt _ unless they are used as a day care or nursing center _ and hotels and motels would be allowed to keep up 20 percent of their rooms as smoking rooms.

This bill starts out as broad as possible, Thomas said. The model was really to be as aggressive as possible.

The ban would carry a $100 fine for someone smoking in a building where it is prohibited. The second offense would carry a $200 fine and a $500 fine would be assessed on the third offense.

The bill also would ban smoking within 25 feet of a building where it is not allowed.

Not all Democrats oppose the smoking ban. Rep. Kasim Reed, D-Atlanta, is a co-sponsor for the bill and is trying to change the minds of his colleagues.

Its going to be a challenge, Reed said. Were optimistic, but we dont expect it to be easy.

One lawmaker whose home district is in the process of enforcing a smoking ban said it is a good idea, but best done locally. Rep. Ron Borders, D-Valdosta, said he would likely oppose the statewide ban.

Local folks ought to be able to determine what theyre doing in their communities, he said Borders.


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To: antiRepublicrat
The Georgia GOP party needs to clean house.

Georgia's small government Republicans need to start a riot at their next primary. And if they lose there, vote for the small government Democrats!!!.

To all those "But do you want Rats in charge??" whiners: I say in this case YES.

You see big gov't Republicans, I don't care about your high and mighty positions. I really don't care what team jersey you're wearing. I care about one thing and only one thing - liberty. And if it takes your standing in an unemployment line for a couple terms to figure that out, that's just fine by me.

21 posted on 02/13/2004 1:18:52 PM PST by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord)
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To: qam1
I heard on the news (this is NO JOKE) that they found a gene that pre-disposes a smoker to smoke.
So, if smoking is genetic, that means they can't help it. It's not a "choice."
Hmmmm. Think of the strange law suits that could come out against the niconazis with that news!
People cold sue for pain and discomfort because of the smoking bans. $$$$ Ching ching!
22 posted on 02/13/2004 1:19:26 PM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: qam1
Private homes would be exempt...
yeah but for how long?

unless they are used as a day care or nursing center
Its none of the governments damn business if it is a day care center or nursing home... or any other business. Get out of our %^$#@#@ business you scuzbag $%%^^^$ %$%#@&

The free market will decide if a smoking allowed nursing home or day care center gets their business. Keep out of it and it'll take care of itself.

and hotels and motels would be allowed to keep up 20 percent of their rooms as smoking rooms.
They will be allowed?? ALLOWED??? Screw you nosy bastards - a hotel is a privately owned business and if they want to make smoking allowed in 100% of the rooms -and the lobby too, its none of your #$%@@* business.

It is time for massive open defiance of these draconian laws.

And for all you anti smoking fools who supoort this kind of crap, you are absolutley paving the road that will lead to more and more intrusive nanny government horse hockey that will eventually attempt to abolish, restrict or tax some part of YOUR behavior.

23 posted on 02/13/2004 1:19:26 PM PST by kcpopps
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To: kcpopps
Smoking is not a choice. It's a genetic pre-dispostion now. Banning smokers is discrimination against a smokers genetc disability !!! Sue!!!

(I wonder if this little discovery will grow legs, or will the liberal press over look it? It was on a radio news break after Rush.)

24 posted on 02/13/2004 1:23:54 PM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: concerned about politics
I guess the Republicans decided they were tired of being the majority party?
25 posted on 02/13/2004 1:27:01 PM PST by olde north church (There come's a time when the only choice is to fight fire with stupidity!)
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To: qam1
Both parties have fallen down the rabbit hole.
26 posted on 02/13/2004 1:30:43 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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Picture yourself at a football game.

Your team has the ball. The play is in action. The quarterback throws to the reciever, who makes the catch but inexplicibly runs in the opposite direction and scores for the other team!

If the coach let the reciever stay on the field, you'd think him an fool. Georgia Republicans, remember that at your next primary.

27 posted on 02/13/2004 1:33:46 PM PST by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord)
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To: qam1
A Bizzaro world where Democrats are for lesser government and Republicans are the totalitarians

No so bizzaro, the matter of "control" transcends party labels. Check it out.

28 posted on 02/13/2004 1:34:17 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: concerned about politics
Smoking is not a choice. It's a genetic pre-dispostion now. Banning smokers is discrimination against a smokers genetic disability !!! Sue!!!

Hey that is a good idea! Why didn't I think of that. Time to fight back in whatever means available. I dislike frivolous lawsuits but its time to fight back.

29 posted on 02/13/2004 1:39:41 PM PST by kcpopps
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To: swarthyguy
Me, too but I bet if we dig a little deeper it ain't like its being reported.
30 posted on 02/13/2004 1:44:04 PM PST by beckysueb (Lady Liberty is in danger! Bush/Cheney 04.)
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To: qam1
Seems like the Republicans are getting worse than the Dem's, didn't think that was possible.
31 posted on 02/13/2004 1:45:43 PM PST by Great Dane (You can smoke just about everywhere in Denmark.)
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To: beckysueb
I bet if we dig a little deeper

When you and that mouse in your pocket find something, be sure to report back.

32 posted on 02/13/2004 1:55:16 PM PST by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: beckysueb
Go ahead and dig.

Seems straightforward to me.

This new country, NannyStan, hovers above mere political labels.

Honestly, apart from foreign policy, George Wallace was right.
33 posted on 02/13/2004 2:02:39 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: Owl_Eagle
Thankee for the tagline-
34 posted on 02/13/2004 2:14:02 PM PST by backhoe (the balance of common sense is tipping towards nonsense)
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To: Great Dane
Seems like the Republicans are getting worse than the Dem's, didn't think that was possible.

You've never lived in Massachusetts ;-)

Take one big cauldron. Drop in one Constitution, bring to a boil, season liberally with rules and regulations, cook until no one pays attention.

And the final result is a flavor that's vaguely familiar, but marvelously tranformed by the chefs.

Who can remember the original recipe? But hey, it tastes good enough to a majority of the diners, so who cares?

35 posted on 02/13/2004 2:15:32 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: michigander
Sorry I didn't mean to offend anybody. I just don't trust Democrats.
36 posted on 02/13/2004 2:18:22 PM PST by beckysueb (Lady Liberty is in danger! Bush/Cheney 04.)
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To: qam1
LOL, perhaps up is down after all.
37 posted on 02/13/2004 2:20:01 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: qam1
Don't forget Massachusetts---Governors Weld,Cellucci,and Mitt Romney,Republicans all!!!!

We're going non-smoking in July and have some of the highest cigarette taxes in the country.
38 posted on 02/13/2004 2:40:49 PM PST by Mears
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To: Mears
At least Weld was the Repub who stopped Dukakis's police state style random and extensive roadblocks at any hour anywhere.

I know, I went through a bunch.

And Dud-kakakiss banned Ladies Nights (discriminatory) and Happy Hours. He deserved Kitty; no wonder he took it out on the rest of us.

39 posted on 02/13/2004 2:46:48 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: qam1
Smoke Nazi's all of them. I'm not a regular smoker, either. Maybe twice a year with a good Cuban, I like a good cigar, too (JOKING!) Seriously, don't screw with my ability to enjoy a good charuto and a sniffer of fine alambic brandy. I'll get "snippy" on you.
40 posted on 02/13/2004 2:55:53 PM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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