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Air is clear, patrons scarce after smoking ban
north.cbc.ca ^ | 10-08-03

Posted on 10/17/2003 6:57:48 AM PDT by SheLion

Air is clear, patrons scarce after smoking ban
WebPosted Oct 8 2003 05:37 PM CDT

YELLOWKNIFE - A bar manager in Yellowknife says the new smoking ban is killing his business.

Trevor Glowach, who manages the MacKenzie Lounge, says his sales have gone down by 80 per cent since the smoking ban took effect a week ago.

City council banned smoking in all bars and clubs in August. The bylaw came into effect on Oct. 1.

Glowach says customers used to come to the lounge so they could have lunch and smoke.

"It's not all negative. I do see some pros. When we bring up lunch, you can smell the lunch a little bit better, and it is a little bit clearer and it does have a bit of a fresher, cleaner feel to the lounge," he says. " But that's fine. It'll be like that when we're closed down."

Glowach says some non-smokers have started to come to the lounge, but not enough to make up for the drop in smoking customers.

Several other bar managers in Yellowknife contacted by CBC reported a drop of 30 to 70 per cent in business because of the ban.

Law is being obeyed

Any bar that decides to contravene the ban could face fines of up to $5,000.

But compliance isn't a problem so far. Doug Gillard, who's in charge of by-law enforcement for the city of Yellowknife , says he's only received six complaints about smoking.

"Our indication is that businesses are doing a lot of work and they're asking people to desist from smoking, which they're required to do. And it sounds like they're getting fairly good compliance," he says.

Back at the Mackenzie Lounge, Trevor Glowach says he'll continue to enforce the bylaw.

But he says he might not have to do it much longer – if the customers don't come back, the lounge may soon close.

Glowach says some non-smokers have started coming to the bar, but not enough to compensate

 

 

 


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: antismokers; bans; butts; cigarettes; individualliberty; niconazis; prohibitionists; pufflist; smokingbans; taxes; tobacco
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I'll start with simple examples, use small words and short sentances, so that even the bottom third of the Bell curve might, dimly, understand.

Did you ever study late? Did you make a pot of coffee? Did it, the caffeine, stimulate you? Guess what, Nicotine is also a stimulant.

So much for common experice. Here's a link from the very anti smoking organization, ASH. "Nicotine, the main psychoactive component of tobacco, is a potent chemical. It has a stimulating effect on the nervous system, causing, among other things, increased heart rate and mental stimulation"

61 posted on 10/17/2003 8:31:15 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: SheLion
"Thanks Anti-Smokers!"

Useful idiots for the Marxist cause. There is no private property.

62 posted on 10/17/2003 8:31:17 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Just another Joe; CSM; SheLion; Flurry
Wow! I just got home and read through this thread.

Poor Eric doesn't seem to get it,does he?

I'm now going to brew some coffee,eat a high carbo,high fat lunch,and smoke a cigarette!!!

After lunch I'll walk 3 miles with my dog in the beautiful fall weather.

I'm 71 years old,Eric!!!!
63 posted on 10/17/2003 8:32:14 AM PDT by Mears
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
My comment was, we'd be better off if smoking had never become commonplace.

Your comment is not pertinent to this discussion.
If you won't stay on topic why bother commenting at all?
I know from other threads that you are a 'reformed' smoker and that you would just as soon tobacco never been invented by G*d.

64 posted on 10/17/2003 8:39:03 AM PDT by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Eric,
Why don't you just stay away from bars and businesses that allow smoking?
65 posted on 10/17/2003 8:39:14 AM PDT by Big Mack
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To: Mears
Save your breath, it is wasted on E of O. Email me a cup of coffee.
66 posted on 10/17/2003 8:40:04 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (On October 11, 2003 I asked Laura Earl to be my wife. "Well sure, I mean, I guess", was her answer.)
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To: SheLion
What is really surprising on these threads is the inability of some of our brightest FReepers to understand the simplicity of the issue. I guess it can be said they can't see it for all the smoke in the room.
67 posted on 10/17/2003 8:40:30 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Just another Joe
Anyone who believes tobacco is not harmful is ignoring the obvious.
Now at less than 23 percent of the population, American smokers are becoming ex-smokers and leaving the tobacco habit on the ash heap of history.
68 posted on 10/17/2003 8:40:54 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
eric,
"name a single benefit from tobacco use."

How about how much I enjoy cleaning my pipe, filling my pipe, lighting my pipe, and smoking my pipe?
69 posted on 10/17/2003 8:42:09 AM PDT by Big Mack
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To: Big Mack
Its my business what I do and where I go. I'm not taking anything from you.
70 posted on 10/17/2003 8:42:15 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Anyone who believes tobacco is not harmful is ignoring the obvious.
Now at less than 23 percent of the population, American smokers are becoming ex-smokers and leaving the tobacco habit on the ash heap of history.

Still not pertinent to the thread.

You have now been put on ignore until you post something pertinent to the discussion.

71 posted on 10/17/2003 8:44:24 AM PDT by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe
Not pertinent ?
Glad to know you're making the FR pertinency rules. Just what we need on a conservative web site...or did you miss that ?
72 posted on 10/17/2003 8:45:05 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Mears
"I'm 71 years old,Eric!!!!"

Hey, me too -- and then some. A '29'er. Tobacco was a great appetite killer back in those depression years when food was scarce.

73 posted on 10/17/2003 8:47:07 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Eric,
If you hate smoke so much, stay home. If I'm in a bar smoking my pipe and I see the police escort you to that same bar and force you top sit next to me, then and only then, will I extinguish my pipe in respect to your feelings.
74 posted on 10/17/2003 8:49:22 AM PDT by Big Mack
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Are you fat?
75 posted on 10/17/2003 8:50:12 AM PDT by per loin
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
The world would be a better place if this addiction had been kept an Indian secret.

Yeah, the first Thanksgiving, we gave them alcohol, they gave us tobacco. Hey! That wasn't so good after all ;-P
76 posted on 10/17/2003 8:51:08 AM PDT by Cronos (W2004)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
keeping it our of my lungs which are mine

I wonder what goes into your STOMACH!

77 posted on 10/17/2003 8:51:46 AM PDT by SheLion (Curiosity killed the cat BUT satisfaction brought her back!!!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Eric, you're trying to change the topic of this thread.
The topic of this thread is not the health effects of tobacco on the human system. You know it, I know it, everyone reading the thread knows it. If you were any type of truthful about it you would admit it.
Stop while you're behind.

I'm not trying to tell you any rules, jus stating the obvious.

78 posted on 10/17/2003 8:55:41 AM PDT by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Big Mack
You're reading way too much into my comment on tobacco--probably because you want to.
79 posted on 10/17/2003 8:57:40 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Just another Joe; Eric in the Ozarks
Yes, Eric. You're obfuscating and off-topic. Now light up and relax a little.
80 posted on 10/17/2003 8:58:11 AM PDT by Eastbound
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