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The FReeper Foxhole Celebrates Independence Day - July 4th, 2004
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Posted on 07/04/2004 12:04:47 AM PDT by snippy_about_it



Lord,

Keep our Troops forever in Your care

Give them victory over the enemy...

Grant them a safe and swift return...

Bless those who mourn the lost.
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FReepers from the Foxhole join in prayer
for all those serving their country at this time.



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Writing the Declaration of Independence, 1776




EyeWitness to History


The summer of 1776 was a harrowing time for the British colonies in America. Open warfare with the mother country had erupted a year earlier and the future was filled with political and military uncertainties.

In this tense climate, the Continental Congress met in Philadelphia with the intention of voting for independence from England. In anticipation of this vote, the Congress selected a committee to draft a declaration of independence. The committee, composed of John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, Robert R. Livingston, and Roger Sherman, in turn instructed Thomas Jefferson to write the declaration.

Jefferson began his work on June 11 and toiled in seclusion writing a number of drafts. After presenting his final draft, the committee further revised the document and submitted it to the Continental Congress on June 28. On July 2, the Continental Congress voted for independence and refined its Declaration of Independence before releasing it to the public on July 4th.

History in the Making

The Declaration of Independence stands with Lincoln's Second Inaugural Address as one of the noblest of America's official documents. In 1822, John Adams wrote a letter to Timothy Pickering responding to Pickering's questions about the writing of the Declaration of Independence. Adams' letters were published in 1850:

"You inquire why so young a man as Mr. Jefferson was placed at the head of the committee for preparing a Declaration of Independence? I answer: It was the Frankfort advice, to place Virginia at the head of everything. Mr. Richard Henry Lee might be gone to Virginia, to his sick family, for aught I know, but that was not the reason of Mr. Jefferson's appointment. There were three committees appointed at the same time, one for the Declaration of Independence, another for preparing articles of confederation, and another for preparing a treaty to be proposed to France. Mr. Lee was chosen for the Committee of Confederation, and it was not thought convenient that the same person should be upon both.

Mr. Jefferson came into Congress in June, 1775, and brought with him a reputation for literature, science, and a happy talent of composition. Writings of his were handed about, remarkable for the peculiar felicity of expression. Though a silent member in Congress, he was so prompt, frank, explicit, and decisive upon committees and in conversation - not even Samuel Adams was more so - that he soon seized upon my heart; and upon this occasion I gave him my vote, and did all in my power to procure the votes of others. I think he had one more vote than any other, and that placed him at the head of the committee. I had the next highest number, and that placed me the second. The committee met, discussed the subject, and then appointed Mr. Jefferson and me to make the draft, I suppose because we were the two first on the list.



The subcommittee met. Jefferson proposed to me to make the draft. I said, 'I will not,' 'You should do it.' 'Oh! no.' 'Why will you not? You ought to do it.' 'I will not.' 'Why?' 'Reasons enough.' 'What can be your reasons?' 'Reason first, you are a Virginian, and a Virginian ought to appear at the head of this business. Reason second, I am obnoxious, suspected, and unpopular. You are very much otherwise. Reason third, you can write ten times better than I can.' 'Well,' said Jefferson, 'if you are decided, I will do as well as I can.' 'Very well. When you have drawn it up, we will have a meeting.'

A meeting we accordingly had, and conned the paper over. I was delighted with its high tone and the flights of oratory with which it abounded, especially that concerning Negro slavery, which, though I knew his Southern brethren would never suffer to pass in Congress, I certainly never would oppose. There were other expressions which I would not have inserted if I had drawn it up, particularly that which called the King tyrant. I thought this too personal, for I never believed George to be a tyrant in disposition and in nature; I always believed him to be deceived by his courtiers on both sides of the Atlantic, and in his official capacity, only, cruel. I thought the expression too passionate, and too much like scolding, for so grave and solemn a document; but as Franklin and Sherman were to inspect it afterwards, I thought it would not become me to strike it out. I consented to report it, and do not now remember that I made or suggested a single alteration.


The mural depicts (from left to right) Benjamin Franklin, Roger Sherman, Thomas Jefferson, Robert Livingston, and John Adams. On the wall in the background is a portrait of English philosopher John Locke, whose Second Essay on Government argued that the rights of man include the right of revolution.


We reported it to the committee of five. It was read, and I do not remember that Franklin or Sherman criticized anything. We were all in haste. Congress was impatient, and the instrument was reported, as I believe, in Jefferson's handwriting, as he first drew it. Congress cut off about a quarter of it, as I expected they would; but they obliterated some of the best of it, and left all that was exceptionable, if anything in it was. I have long wondered that the original draft had not been published. I suppose the reason is the vehement philippic against Negro slavery.

As you justly observe, there is not an idea in it but what had been hackneyed in Congress for two years before. The substance of it is contained in the declaration of rights and the violation of those rights in the Journals of Congress in 1774. Indeed, the essence of it is contained in a pamphlet, voted and printed by the town of Boston, before the first Congress met, composed by James Otis, as I suppose, in one of his lucid intervals, and pruned and polished by Samuel Adams."


References:
Adams, John (Charles Francis Adams ed.), The Works of John Adams, vol II, The Diary (1850) reprinted in Commager, H.S. and Nevins, A., The Heritage of America (1939); Maier Pauline, American Scripture: Making the Declaration of Independence (1997).




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To: The Mayor

Cool, thanks Mayor.


61 posted on 07/04/2004 9:41:20 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it

62 posted on 07/04/2004 10:07:46 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Member: International Brotherhood of Tagline Thieves!)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; All

A squad of Marines drove up the highway between Basra and Baghdad. They came upon an Iraqi soldier badly injured and unconscious.
Nearby on the opposite side
of the road was an American Marine in a similar state, but he was alert. As first aid was
given to both men, they asked the injured Marine what happened. The Marine responded "I was heavily armed and moving north along
the highway. Coming south was a heavily armed Iraqi soldier".

"What happened then?" the corpsman asked.

"I told him Saddam Hussein was a miserable piece of crap and then the Iraqi told me that Tom Daschle, Ted Kennedy and Bill Clinton
were miserable pieces of crap!"

"What happened then?" the corpsman asked.

" We were shaking hands when a truck hit us."


63 posted on 07/04/2004 10:16:57 AM PDT by The Mayor (The race of life is run by faith and won by grace.)
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To: The Mayor

LOL! There was a version of that going around about Ho Chi Minh and LBJ in my Vietnam days.


64 posted on 07/04/2004 10:22:51 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Member: International Brotherhood of Tagline Thieves!)
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To: The Mayor

LOL. Thanks Mayor.


65 posted on 07/04/2004 10:42:12 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf
Here she is as promised:


Independence Day dress. Thanks Snippy and Sam.


Spiderboy took this one, so I could hold Kidlette.


Msdrby's cat Ben thinks the stroller is the cats-meow.

66 posted on 07/04/2004 11:24:59 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (I love America!)
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To: Coleus; SAMWolf
Valin's list seems to have left someone out today ;-).

Happy Birthday to the Mother of FReeper Coleus.


67 posted on 07/04/2004 11:39:57 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Professional Engineer
Hey, Abagail is stylin'! I'm surprised it fits though it still looks a little big. She's a cutie fer sure! Thanks PE.

Spider boy is good with that camera. Does Ben go for rides or jump out as soon as it's moving?

68 posted on 07/04/2004 11:42:08 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it

Those now-dead white men were courageous beyond compare. I'm so very thankful to them.


69 posted on 07/04/2004 11:44:42 AM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: SAMWolf
I learn something every day at the Foxhole. I believe that two other VC's were awarded to the 24th after Isandhlwana. To Lts Melvill and Coghill for saving the Queen's colour. Both KIA.

Their VC's are proudly displayed at the 24th's Museum in Brecon. I visited it in 1985.

71 posted on 07/04/2004 12:21:03 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (US Armed Forces - The True Freedom Fighters)
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To: Matthew Paul

Thank you! You have no idea how much your country's support means to me.


72 posted on 07/04/2004 12:25:49 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (US Armed Forces - The True Freedom Fighters)
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To: SAMWolf
GA, Sam!

hope this 4th of july finds you/yours well & celebrating!!!!!

free dixie NOW,sw

73 posted on 07/04/2004 12:26:43 PM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: Matthew Paul

There you are! Did you see we reposted the Pulaski thread yesterday. ;-) Always together. Thanks.


74 posted on 07/04/2004 12:34:49 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Humal; SAMWolf; Professional Engineer; All
From Foxhole FReeper Humal;



They had the official flag folding ceremony this morning at the three services in our church, Roseland United Methodist Church, Roseland, Florida. Unfortunately, the pictures aren't as good as I had wished. I missed the Boy Scouts in their uniforms, and the flag folders at my service didn't wear uniforms (couldn't get them on!). I am attaching a few from today's service, and a few from the "unofficial" flag ceremony.

Some of those turned out better than today's. Rev. Gary Isner told the symbolism of the folds to the flag. I had given him a copy of the post VANITY- Folding the flag; an uplifting read.

The whole service was very impressive! Our music minister played a medley of songs that are the official songs of the different services (Army, Navy, Marines, and Air Force). Since the rendition didn't include the Merchant Marines or Coast Guard, anyone having served in those services were asked to stand first. At the conclusion, the widows/widowers of any service person was honored.














75 posted on 07/04/2004 12:38:06 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Professional Engineer

AWWWWWWWW! OOO! OOO! I picked that one out!!

Ben looks like my daughter's cat Ami.


77 posted on 07/04/2004 12:56:42 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Member: International Brotherhood of Tagline Thieves!)
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To: snippy_about_it; Coleus

Happy birthday Coleus' Mom!!!


78 posted on 07/04/2004 12:57:35 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Member: International Brotherhood of Tagline Thieves!)
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To: WaterDragon

Afternoon WaterDragon.

They definately "started" something. :-)


79 posted on 07/04/2004 12:58:35 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Member: International Brotherhood of Tagline Thieves!)
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To: Matthew Paul

Afternoon Matt.

Kosciuszko and Pulaski were "big" in Chicago when I was growing up, their contributions to our Revolution was taught in the schools.


80 posted on 07/04/2004 1:00:37 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Member: International Brotherhood of Tagline Thieves!)
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