Top Ten Questions the TRADS and the NEOS Have for Wilton Gregory and Company at the Sept 8 Meeting

[boromeo]

This is serious. The TRADS and the NEOS on Free Republic are full of good humor and grace, so I have a challenge. I would like to attempt to compile two top ten lists of discussion points, one from a TRAD and one from a NEO perspective with questions for the 'conservative' Catholic conference coming up with the Bishops (Gregory, etc.) set up by Deal Hudson. Sorry dissenters, you have to sit this one out. It would also be nice if we could arrive at a FREEREPUBLIC chat room top five list where TRADS and NEOS can prove that yes, dog-gone-it, sometimes, we can all just get along and agree. Or maybe not. Anyway, no fair crossing lines and mucking with each other's lists. Please limit your posts to 10 ideas, and send them to the group or to me privately. You have to mark clearly if you're suggestions are TRAD or NEO. All entries marked confidential will be kept confidential. Keep your suggestions compact TRADS. NEOS, points are deducted for using the word 'spirit.' Have fun!

[St.Chuck]

What's a Neo?

[As you well know...]

I am a Catholic.

I have one question. If there were no USCCB, would you Teach, Rule and Sanctify with greater courage, force and conviction?

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

Do you have connections?

I vote for a seriously generous allowance of the Indult Traditional Mass. None of this, "get a petition with X # of names" or "nobody wants it" (yeah right), or placing it in the far regions of the diocese. I also vote for greater support and establishment of Traditional parishes (think Christ the King and FSSP).

I'll think about some others.

[RobbyS]

One question: Why so much experimentation by local bishops and priests after thirty years?

[LadyDoc]

1) ask why the broad who started the hate fest against Mel Gibson (BOYS) wasn't fired for a) pretending she and her friends represented the USSB and b) for being active in the anti church modernists who are undermining the church.

2) ask them to stop altergirls. The feminization of the mass where a priest is the center of attention and is surrounded by ladies and girls is embarassing. Mass is about worshipping Christ, not about a fun filled celebration of selfhood.

3) ask them to encourage Eucharistic adoration.

4) ask them to fire PC church bureacrats who undermine the average Catholic. This includes PC nuns who teach "liberation theology" and the "need" for "womenpriests" to our confirmation classes to the gay bureaucrats who allowed their pedophile friends to go to counselling and be declared "cured" over and over again...if you don't know who they are, I suggest you go to your nearby gay bar and look for familiar faces...

5) ask them to correct the nuns (like the Erie Benedictines) who oppose the pope openly in the press. Yes, I know that some of them are outside the local bishop's line of authority, but you can still criticize them publically and even remove them from serving in your diocesan organizations. Better a bible believing Baptist than a "nun" who is into "womanchurch".

6) Ask the bishops to get better press officers who can oppose the soundbites of the media.

7) Ask the bishops why they put out a lot of crap about helping the poor, but don't put out a lot about becoming holy.

8) stress personal responsibility and repentence. A lot of social problems would be solved if people followed the ten commandments in their own family.

9) Ask them why they have been silent on JP2's "theology of the body". They not only have been silent about the promicuity of their congregations, (out of a "don't be judgemental" attitude) but they fail to preach that the TRUE approach to sexuality leads to personal happiness and fulfillment...

10) ask them to speak English. I am sick and tired of preaching that I have trouble understanding, because they use jargon and PC cliches.

[old and tired]

I'm not sure what a Neo is, but since I'm not a Trad, I suppose I am Neo.

1)When is something concrete going to be done about the gays in the hierarchy and the priesthood? We've got Rigali coming to Philadelphia and he hasn't said whether he will continue to disallow gays at our seminary. 1a)When will the Church admit that it has never been a pedophilia crisis, but a chicken-hawking one? The young priests here are excellent and quite frankly I'm frightened that something will be done that will start the gays coming in.

2)How are the so called Catholic colleges going to be made to fall in line with Church teaching? Don't let them call themselves Catholic when they're not.

3)When is something going to be done about pro-abortion politicians calling themselves Catholic? There is a fine opportunity to make the Democrats look like the minions of Satan that they are by highlighting those who will not confirm practicing Catholics to federal judgeships.

4)Why are children not being taught in the Catholic schools that they should go to weekly confession?

5)Why is Adoration of the Blessed Sacrament not mandatory in every parish across the country?

I think a lot of the other problems would clear themselves up if #5 were mandated.

Like LadyDoc I am tired of Churchspeak and want to hear their answers in plain English.

[A.A. Cunningham]

Explain your asinine decision to select CINO unborn baby murdering advocate Leon Panetta to serve on the NRB?

[saradippity]

Ping for place.

[k omalley]

Ask them if they have lost their faith. Sometimes it sure seems that way.
Ask them to be more courageous in standing up for Church teaching and not just the politically correct issues.
Ask them why they turn a blind eye when some priests teach heresy.
Ask them to please use their influence to restore dignity, beauty and reverence to the liturgy, and yes, a more generous application of the indult would be greatly appreciated.
Tell them to please take a close look at what activities so called "Catholic" universities are engaged in. Do they have no concerns for the souls of the students and for the parents who have sacrificed tremendously, thinking that their sons and daughters would receive an authentic Catholic education?

I guess you could call me a neo with trad leanings.

[jocon307]

3)When is something going to be done about pro-abortion politicians calling themselves Catholic?

I would rank this the #1 issue making Catholics look bad today.

[old and tired]

I think this is an important thread. For all we know, Boromeo may be Deal Hudson himself. Anyway, we know that prominent Catholics do check this board. (Remember the whole Popcek thing?) There is a good chance that these lists could make it to that meeting. It would be a shame if they got there without your input. Please put your ten cents in and encourage other Catholic Freepers as well.

[old and tired]

**I would rank this the #1 issue making Catholics look bad today. **

You may be right, but personally I would rank # 1 the way the bishops handled the whole gay priest thing, and that ridiculous sham of a meeting they had in Dallas.

[conservonator]

As ThomasMore posted somewhere, "Do the red, read the black, ". If nothing else, this would help eliminate some of the most annoying abuses at many N.O. Masses.

Also, petitioning for “Peace and Justice” each Sunday should be at least prefaced with a petition for “Faith and Obedience”. If our clergy focused more on faith and obedience, peace and justice would be natural fruits.

I know that the latter request isn’t something for the USCCB but it’s been bugging me for some time.

Bump for LadyDoc and Old and tired, great lists for the Bishops

[Akron Al]

Explain your asinine decision to select CINO unborn baby murdering advocate Leon Panetta to serve on the NRB?

Good question!

[Patrick Madrid]

"There is a good chance that these lists could make it to that meeting. It would be a shame if they got there without your input. Please put your ten cents in and encourage other Catholic Freepers as well.

I'll be attending this meeting, and your collective input here will definitely help me as I prepare for the event. Thanks for starting this thread!

[NYer]

I'll begin by pinging my list. This is one opportunity we don't want to miss out on.

[ventana]

What you all said. Excellent points. Ditto. V's wife.

[Loyalist]

PING

[boromeo]

"Boromeo may be Deal Hudson?"

Boromeo is not, I repeat not, Deal Hudson, nor is he laboring under any hidden motives. Boromeo's top questions are:

why the continued hostility to the Latin Mass;

why do so many known gay priests remain in parishes all over this country;

why an internationally known conservative US Cardinal recently remarked that he knew several homosexual priests who were fine pastors;

what is being done about the growing gulf between traditional Catholics and so-called "neo" Catholics;

why all the pro-aborts on the NRB abuse panel? Leon Panetta? Give me a break!;

what in God's name is NRB chairman doing appearing at the Call To Action Conf in Nov. as the keynote speaker (follow-up, are all bishops equally stupid, or some more stupid than others?)

Let the thread roll on all the way to Deal Hudson's front door, and if he is going to continue to posture as a conservative, I hope he has the decency to bring up the concerns of conservative Catholics who are tired of being treated like second class citizens.