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Archbishop choice seen as imminent: Pittsburgh's bishop called top candidate
Boston Globe ^ | June 8, 2003 | Walter V. Robinson and Michael Rezendes

Posted on 06/08/2003 8:35:52 AM PDT by tridentine

The appointment of Boston's new archbishop is imminent, according to knowledgeable church officials, who said that Bishop Richard G. Lennon knows he is about to be replaced and the archdiocese has already identified at least three sites that may be used for the announcement.

In interviews last week, church officials said they believe that Pope John Paul II's choice to head the most troubled of American archdioceses is likely to be made public this month, with this Tuesday the earliest possible date.

And some church officials privy to internal discussions said they now believe that -- even if the decision has not been finalized -- the most likely choice is Bishop Donald W. Wuerl of Pittsburgh.

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To: sitetest
drstevej has been granted an exemption from the usual end of such folks for this occasion due to his most fervent and convincing interest in poofter-elimination.

With regard instrumentation: it is my considered opinion that few improvements in the technology have been made over the past 400 years (and I watched the History Channel special on torture only last week...) With the possible exception of electrical cords applied to, ummm, various sensitive areas, I can't think of another REAL improvement in devices/apparatus.

Can you??
301 posted on 06/10/2003 3:38:15 PM PDT by ninenot (Joe McCarthy was RIGHT, but Drank Too Much)
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To: ninenot
Dear ninenot,

"...I can't think of another REAL improvement in devices/apparatus.

"Can you??"

In both devices AND methodologies, yes, indeed.

;-)


sitetest
302 posted on 06/10/2003 3:39:28 PM PDT by sitetest
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To: sitetest; BlackElk; drstevej
Feel free to name a few, not counting IRS audits.

Put it on your application blank for consideration by The Committee For Re-Institution of the Inquisition's Executive Duties.

Mail to BlackElk, along with a tape-recording of your singing the Torquemada song as written by BE.

You will receive a return letter either from BE or from the American Idol screeners.
303 posted on 06/10/2003 3:43:11 PM PDT by ninenot (Joe McCarthy was RIGHT, but Drank Too Much)
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To: ninenot; BlackElk
Dear ninenot,

With the rise of Pope John Paul's personalism, one must look at the subject of torture from a different point of view. The old Thomistic Inquisitors of past centuries were too insistent on developing means and methods which they could judge as being objectively superior to other means and methods.

The difficulty with this is, that although there are certainly objective truths to be established, that does not tell us what effect the particular device and method have on a particular individual.

So, it's thumbscrews and the rack for everyone!

How much more effective, if, say, the subject were someone with similar proclivities of BlackElk, as a start, to force him to listen to three post-menopausal AmChurch nuns playing the guitar badly, and singing Kumbaya, for, say, forty hours straight. I promise you that at the end of my work, he would confess to you anything you desired. And there would be less clean-up, afterwards..

The personalist dimension is so overlooked by the more traditional elements. You need to integrate the Language of the Body into your approach. You need to understand what the subject's body is telling you, to help guide the process along.

As well, the insistence on an objective view of things really cripples the imagination when it comes to improvisation. I dare say that, for myself, my greatest device is not the implements to disembowel, nor sharp nails, nor bamboo shoots, but rather, my mind. I look around, and all the world is rich in devices which can service quite well.

But, should you choose not to avail yourself of my services, fear not, I lack not for work aplenty. Though with Saddam gone, I do have a significant chunk of free billable hours.

sitetest

304 posted on 06/10/2003 3:56:38 PM PDT by sitetest
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To: sitetest; BlackElk
We could also have BlackElk doo-wop.

A most interesting suggestion, the nuns and Kumbaya. More such suggestions will be taken gladly. Don't bother with the philosophical underpinnings, as 'personalism' stuff will only get you in trouble with UltRat and his gang.

BTW, why worry about "cleanup" afterwards? I do not concern myself with EPA and OSHA regs in this operation...

Finally, I hope you did not have a large A/R portfolio under Saddam's name, unless you need a large writeoff. Find a CPA who will spread it out over a few years.
305 posted on 06/10/2003 4:16:17 PM PDT by ninenot (Joe McCarthy was RIGHT, but Drank Too Much)
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To: ninenot
Dear ninenot,

"Don't bother with the philosophical underpinnings, as 'personalism' stuff will only get you in trouble with UltRat and his gang."

I thought that those folks might actually be some of the ones we need to..., how shall I say it?... gather and address. In which case, the personalist philosophy will serve well to help weave the threads of the appropriate treatment. Then there are the Marcel dolls...

After all, you know what they say, schism is proximate to heresy. A little pre-treatment could save these poor souls.

;-)

"BTW, why worry about 'cleanup' afterwards? I do not concern myself with EPA and OSHA regs in this operation..."

The heck with EPA, etc. Those folks are all involved in that goddess worship thingy. In fact, when we get to... addressing them, I have some old bottles of DDT, some old soda cans with throw-away poptops, some cans of hairspray using lots of CFCs, and a large quantity of un-recycled back issues of National Review. I've found a lovely room for these ones, with an old window air-conditioning unit still using freon. Just to add a little ambience to the proceedings.

But if you don't occasionally clear things out, it gets a little squishy underfoot. My methods reduce this problem by 80%.

"Finally, I hope you did not have a large A/R portfolio under Saddam's name,..."

A/R??? No, no, with that sort, payment was usually upfront. Ask Kim Il-Jong. He's always complaining about my payment terms. But have no fear, what little credit extended to that bunch will be re-paid in full. Some of it may be re-paid with actual money.

"Find a CPA who will spread it out over a few years."

I go to a good, mid-sized, local firm. Big enough to have several folks expert at dealing with the government, small enough to give me good, individualized service. Also, my attorney is a premier tax attorney.

I try to stay straight with the tax authorities. After all, even I can muster nothing as mind-numbingly horrific as an IRS audit.

sitetest

306 posted on 06/10/2003 4:37:18 PM PDT by sitetest
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To: Notwithstanding; drstevej
Since the Church no longer executes heretics

Wouldn't it be great though if the Fr. Shanley's of the world were called to the Vatican and burned at the stake in St. Peter's Square? Or better yet, taken out on the high seas and thrown overboard with a millstone around their neck?

Maybe Pope Piel I can figure out a way to do this.

307 posted on 06/10/2003 8:10:24 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Hermann the Cherusker; Notwithstanding; Calvinist_Dark_Lord
***Maybe Pope Piel I can figure out a way to do this.***

Why do you think I have Calvinist_Dark _Lord as Head Inquisitor? He isn't under RCC authority, yet he thinks a Calvinist Pope is a way cool idea!

***Wouldn't it be great though if the Fr. Shanley's of the world were called to the Vatican and burned at the stake in St. Peter's Square?***

A Servetus Special ??? Sure, it's been done before.

***Or better yet, taken out on the high seas and thrown overboard with a millstone around their neck? ***

Please, leave this to the professionals. CDL, what do you suggest.....
308 posted on 06/10/2003 8:16:12 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: ninenot; drstevej; BlackElk; Notwithstanding
Notwithstanding is just in need of some desensitivity training to get with the program of Pope Piel. I'm sure something could be arranged. Maybe Fr. Lavender McFeeley Touchy could be sent around to entertain his children.

Now where can I send my money order?

Also, I understand there is some inexpensive equipment available from certain sources in Baghdad that would be useful for this new religious center. We should look into arranging purchase and transportation now. If we're lucky, maybe we'll get some Babylonian antiquities thrown in for free on the deal to decorate the place.

I also think we will need a director for this center who is sensitive enough to the needs of the detainees to understand the special handling methods they require. I'm nominating NYPD Officer Justin Volpe, once he is released from the penitentiary.

309 posted on 06/10/2003 8:21:36 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker (Ab illo benedicaris, in cujus honore cremaberis.)
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
***Maybe Fr. Lavender McFeeley Touchy could be sent around to entertain his children. ***

You have inquisitorial instincts yourself. Amazing the latent talent around here on FR!
310 posted on 06/10/2003 8:24:08 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: ninenot
I can't think of another REAL improvement in devices/apparatus.

Can you??

I've held back from suggesting it directly until now, but I can't anymore. The most perfect implement for this task is in an evidence room in Brooklyn. It is the Abner Louima Memorial Toilet Plunger. This item must be obtained and blessed for the Work.

311 posted on 06/10/2003 8:27:44 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: BlackElk; sitetest; ninenot; drstevej
And something to sing to the prisoners at the condemnation ...

The world is full of double beds/
And most delightful maidenheads./
That being said, there's no excuse,/
For sodomy or self-abuse.

-Hillaire Belloc

312 posted on 06/10/2003 8:37:49 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
Play the Oregon Catholic Press Greatest Hits box set at full volume on a continuous loop. It will reduce the most stoic and self-assured of men to porridge.

If all else fails, Andrew Greeley's Books on Tape will induce the same hysterical collapse.
313 posted on 06/10/2003 8:49:49 PM PDT by Loyalist (Keeper of the Schismatic Orc Ping List. Freepmail me if you want on or off it.)
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To: All; BlackElk
Almost ten hours ago I posted the following to this thread in response to Nimenot observation : "It's only frightening if you are in Pittsburgh."

Roman Catholics around the world suffer the embarrassment of having bishops and cardinals who choose to mock 1,900 years of sacred tradition in favor of pagan rituals and contemporary immorality. That a reprobate [ bishop or cardinal ] is located in North America or Africa is not relevant.

What is relevant is the passive endorsement [ of heresy and immorality and protection ] the Vatican has provided [soiled] red robes in two many places.

But alas, comes Black Elk always willing to trade lances in a blink of a day. He strikes with a stunning rejoinder :
"What is even worse is those who see the speck in the eye of others but fail to see the mote in their own."

You got me there bud. Wow! I give.....NOT.

314 posted on 06/10/2003 8:57:14 PM PDT by Robert Drobot
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To: drstevej; CCWoody
Please, leave this to the professionals. CDL, what do you suggest.....

Well your fishy essence, Since you do need to set the tone of your Reign on the Chair of St. Peter, you need to make the Papacy unique to your particular tastes and inclinations.

While i'm partial to burning due to my background, i generally prefer chemical burns, less trauma that way, and much more amusement for a longer period of time, progress you see.

Still, in keeping with the tone of your Papacy...how about a large pool of holy water filled with hungry pirrana fish, and a block and tackle to lower the heretic into the pool slowly. Leave his feet free so as to add to his despair (good for extracting confessions). Of course, tourniquets and "cut downs" are required to keep the subject from bleeding out prematurly when the femoral arteries are consumed. Should he confess and recant, simply release the tension and allow him to be completely immersed. It would at least show the infidels that you are serious and innovative

It also has the added benefit of providing the climate for blessing and exorcism.

Might i suggest CC Woody for the position of exorcist, seeing as how i seem to have this department under control?

315 posted on 06/10/2003 9:37:46 PM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord (I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! -Roddy Piper)
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To: drstevej
You could call it "The feeding of the 5000 (fish)." i am certain that it would set the tone for your reign that you would wish to set.

Your indulgence please your fish n chips, but i must add that anyone knows how to inflict great amounts of pain. The process is far more effective when one adds a certain amount of mental anguish to the process. My favorite techniques have always involved the giving and removing of hope (along with certain body parts) from the heretic. At the end he must beg for death, and be in despair that his or her worst horror would be the possibility that they might live through the interrogation, with what physical "assets" they have remaining.

316 posted on 06/11/2003 12:02:05 AM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord (I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! -Roddy Piper)
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
***how about a large pool of holy water filled with hungry pirrana fish, and a block and tackle to lower the heretic into the pool slowly.***

Can I get some pirrana with little laser beams on their heads?
317 posted on 06/11/2003 4:09:13 AM PDT by drstevej
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
***Your indulgence please your fish n chips, but i must add that anyone knows how to inflict great amounts of pain.***

I agree, excuse me while I dismiss the rest of your competition.

[turns to the others and says...]

PRESS

318 posted on 06/11/2003 4:22:53 AM PDT by drstevej
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To: drstevej; BlackElk; sitetest; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Hermann the Cherusker; Desdemona
Well, the project is up and rolling along fine.

However appealing the 'OCP's Greatest Hits' and 'Kumbaya' items were, however, sitetest, applying your philosophical underpinnings to the subjects of interest might result in something entirely different.

For the review of BlackElk, STILL the Lord Inquisitor nominee, might I also suggest a group of children reciting the Nicene Creed and the prayer to St. Michael on endless-loop.

This might result in some extremely entertaining convulsions from the Subjects as various spirits depart from their temporary earthly abodes.

AFTER the departures, the pirhana- or chemical-enhanced baths would make an interesting second stage.

Of course, we will need some funding, even for the discounted equipment we can get from Baghdad, Hermann; thus, my suggestion is that we sell the bullets (fraggers, of course) and rent the pistols to abused parishioners/Diocesan residents. I do NOT mean to those who were physically abused--they will pay top dollar for front-row seats. I mean to those who were forced to watch their Churches become McDonald's restaurants and who were forced to listen to the Kumbayas, OCP hits, etc., etc., in the pews.

Say, $25.00/round (only one per shooter) and pistol rental of $5.00.
319 posted on 06/11/2003 7:10:48 AM PDT by ninenot (Joe McCarthy was RIGHT, but Drank Too Much)
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To: ninenot; BlackElk; sitetest; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Hermann the Cherusker; Desdemona
You know it's great to see some competetion among my Inquisitors... stimulates creativity.

I purchased a gross (and believe me that is the right amount) of Hillary's new book on casettes. These should not be neglected! Also got a truckload of those promo posters of the Queen of Hell to use as wall paper in the executive suites of the Torquemada Inn.
320 posted on 06/11/2003 7:23:03 AM PDT by drstevej
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