Posted on 09/30/2002 9:19:01 AM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
I repeat: That is your spin, Steve. You need, instead, to be truthful.
One day you will deeply regret your mockery and scorn and pharisaic tactics. Your mind has been poisoned, and you seek to poison the minds of others.
You owe us all such a huge and profound apology that you will not be able to find words to express it when the time comes. Will it be forthcoming? Not until you repent and have a change of heart.
You have been greatly deceived, and have not manifested the love of God or a love of the truth.
I refer you to my #926.
A statement based on facts that are true, and well and properly attested, as the Holy Spirit bears witness.
ksen is pointing out, I believe, that it is improper for Calvinists to attribute such things to God, that God would choose without regard to our efforts to repent and improve.
If ksen isn't pointing that out, then I certainly am.
It happens because God is sovereign, Terry.
As you can see, Terry is already accusing you of believing that man's will is sovereign, which is ridiculous, even though you have made it clear that you believe that God is sovereign.
That is what aggressive Calvinists always do.
Another thing they always do is question and then deny your salvation, ignoring what you have already said. They also claim that you think you can save yourself.
Keep posting with aggressive Calvinists and you will see them attack you and accuse you, more and more. They will keep it up until you agree to accept their private interpretation of the Bible. Only then will they call you saved. Only then will your account of your conversion experience be "good enough".
Thus they substitute their own requirements in place of the Biblical requirements for salvation, which is a BIG no-no, and will get them in BIG trouble with their Maker.
They are a nasty bunch. The nicer you are with them, the nastier they will be with you. Their behavior is not Christian. They do not understand the Bible. They think God requires them to behave this way. They do not know God.
You have seen how they attack me and my faith. They are attacking the Catholic faith now in a thread that was just moved to the Smokey Backroom. (See #989-992 on this thread, and Terry's #993 trying in vain to defend their awful behavior.)
They will in process of time attack you and your faith just as vigorously. The aggressive Calvinists who behave this way need to be banned, but this is JimRob's forum, and he doesn't like it, but he tolerates it, not realizing the harm that they do.
I would recommend an exception for abusive or threatening freepmails, especially if received by women. They need to see the light of day so the abuser, maybe the monster, who sends them can be confronted publicly, if the moderator does not otherwise resolve it. If the recipient thinks they have to keep the abuse hidden, it can aggravate ulcers or the distress may manifest in other ways.
I am glad to count you as my friend. You have never done one single thing to trash my faith so visciously as those on that thread did. We may not always agree, but at least I know that when I debate you that you will have repsect for me as a human being and that you aren't going to trash what is sacred to me.
No wonder I post so little here anymore. Its nothing but a den full of pit vipers. They do not know Christ. In their pompous self-righteousness they have condemned everyone but their hands are not clean or saved. They're just evil--inherently evil.
I think this is an interesting statement in light of the previous question I asked you regarding the experiential/doctrinal spectrum. I have understood that prophecy can have multi-layered meaning in time. I'm wondering if you believe that parables are in the same category in that they can have multiple meanings to different individuals or if they teach one objective truth or set of truths?
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