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Names of Bishops Calling for Plenary Council Revealed
Catholic World News (sorry, no link!) | 8/7/02 | Antoninus

Posted on 08/07/2002 8:23:08 PM PDT by Antoninus

According to a Catholic World News article, the following are the names of the Bishops who are calling for the Plenary Council:

Archbishops Oscar Lipscomb of Atlanta, Georgia; John Vlazny of Portland, Oregon; Daniel Cronin of Hartford, Connecticut; and James Keleher of Kansas City, Kansas. Also signing were Bishops Raymond Burke of LaCrosse, Wisconsin; Robert Morlino of Helena, Montana; Daniel DiNardo of Sioux City, Iowa, and Detroit auxiliary Allen Vigneron.

What do we know about any of these guys? I don't see Bishop Bruskewitz on here, so I'm immediately suspicious.


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1 posted on 08/07/2002 8:23:08 PM PDT by Antoninus
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2 posted on 08/07/2002 8:26:15 PM PDT by Antoninus
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From the Archdiocese of Detroit web site:
Bishop Vigneron returned to Detroit in 1985 as an Instructor in philosophy and theology at Sacred Heart Seminary College. After earning his doctorate, he became Assistant Professor. In January 1988, Bishop Vigneron began duties at the Seminary as Academic Dean. In 1991, Bishop Vigneron returned to Rome, as an official of the Vatican Secretariat of State. In addition to these duties, Bishop Vigneron taught at the Gregorian University as an adjunct Professor. Bishop Vigneron returned to Detroit in mid-1994 to become the second Rector/President of the re-formulated Sacred Heart Major Seminary.

Sacred Heart Seminary is not one of the problem seminaries.

Seems like a reasonable list of Bishops although not the high profile names some would have liked to see.

3 posted on 08/07/2002 8:41:37 PM PDT by cebadams
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To: Antoninus
I know you wanted help, but none of those names are familiar to me. Only Lipscomb of Atlanta I recall presiding over the elaborate consecration ceremony of a new church for a Latin Mass parish. The ommission of any well known orthodox bishops gives reason for pause.
4 posted on 08/07/2002 8:42:26 PM PDT by St.Chuck
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To: cebadams
I am reminded, however, that Cardinal Maida of Detroit is not one of the 'good guys'. I wonder if Bishop Vigneron would have signed this without the Cardinal's approval? Seems to me that if the baddies wanted to promote this council, they'd have to do so surrpetitiously anyway. Could you imagine the furor if the letter was signed by, say, Cardinal Mahoney, Cardinal Law, Cardinal McCarrick, Cardinal Keeler, and Bishops Clark and Hubbard?
5 posted on 08/07/2002 8:57:08 PM PDT by Antoninus
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/671776/posts
Detroit's Adam Cardinal Maida said homosexuality is at the root of the church's sex problems. "I think what the behavioral scientists are telling us, the sociologists, it's not truly a pedophilia-type problem but a homosexual-type problem," he said. "We need to look at our seminaries and see that we're doing a good job screening candidates."

6 posted on 08/07/2002 9:03:27 PM PDT by cebadams
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To: cebadams
Hey, never saw that one. Thanks! I wish more of them would be so forthcoming!
7 posted on 08/07/2002 9:13:58 PM PDT by Antoninus
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To: Antoninus
Just saw this on the Detroit Free Press:

Detroit bishop leads call for action

8 clergymen sign letter on priest abuse issue

August 7, 2002

BY PATRICIA MONTEMURRI
FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER

A Detroit Catholic bishop who runs Sacred Heart Major Seminary is one of eight U.S. bishops behind a call for an extraordinary, nationwide church council to combat the clergy sex abuse scandal by reaffirming traditional teachings.

Auxiliary Bishop Allen Vigneron, who is rector of the Archdiocese of Detroit's training college for priests, co-signed a letter that is circulating privately among the nation's 190-plus bishops.

The eight bishops want their colleagues to meet with priests and lay people in a so-called plenary council, the last of which occurred in this country in 1884 and gave rise to the Catholic school system.

"They want to have this council to reaffirm all the things the pope has been teaching, not change them," said the Rev. Thomas Reese, a Jesuit who is the editor of America magazine. "This council is not being called to start a revolution, but to reaffirm current teaching and practice in the church."

In light of the abuse scandal, many Catholic lay people across the country have called on their leaders to reconsider the church's bans on married and female priests. But the bishops' letter says that such a council should affirm Vatican teachings on celibacy for priests and other church doctrine.

A copy of the letter appeared in the online version of Crisis, a monthly magazine, without the bishops' signatures. There is no date for the meeting, which a majority of U.S. bishops and the Vatican would need to approve, Reese said.

The Free Press was provided a list of the signers Tuesday, which included: Archbishop Daniel Cronin, Hartford, Conn.; Archbishop Oscar Lipscomb, Mobile, Ala.; Archbishop James Keleher, Kansas City, Kan; Archbishop John Vlazny, Portland, Ore.; Bishop Raymond Burke, La Crosse, Wis.; Bishop Robert Morlino, Helena, Mont.; and Bishop Daniel DiNardo, Sioux City, Iowa.

Vigneron couldn't be reached for comment Tuesday.

Detroit Auxiliary Bishop Thomas Gumbleton said he feared such a meeting wouldn't foster a frank discussion about the issues that trouble many Catholics. Such a meeting, he said, could be "highly centralized, highly controlled and not where real, in-depth discussion would take place."

In the letter, the bishops said such a council should focus on: "What things need to be going on so that in this cultural milieu priests and bishops will preserve their celibate chastity along with all the other virtues that constitute the life of holiness."

To read the letter, go to www.crisismagazine.com.

8 posted on 08/07/2002 9:16:37 PM PDT by cebadams
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9 posted on 08/07/2002 9:22:47 PM PDT by narses
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Sorry, I don't know anything about them.
10 posted on 08/07/2002 9:33:08 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Antoninus
Perhaps they did not want the name of a lightning rod (the brusk one) on the letter in order to avoid instant ridicule by the press?
11 posted on 08/07/2002 9:42:45 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: cebadams
If Gumbleton if agin' it, I am instantly inclined to support it. (Though I am sure he is right twice a day just like a broken watch...) Gumbleton does not like it because it apparently would be a celebration and display of orthodoxy (as described in the article you posted).

Gumbleton is a "Call To Action" leader.
Ewwwwwwwww. Braf alert. Etc.


12 posted on 08/07/2002 9:47:46 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: Antoninus
Well, you can't help shudder at this header: Detroit Bishop Leads Call to Action

Sacred Heart Seminary (where Vigneron is now rector) is discussed (and defended) at length in this pan of Goodbye, Good Men at Culture Wars, in sum:


But there have been enormous improvements in seminaries across the country in the last decade. Seminaries such as Kenrick-Glennon in St. Louis and Sacred Heart in Detroit have shown remarkable development in the last decade, and now enjoy the confidence of bishops known for their orthodoxy.

Skip to Bishops' links

Waiting for the Shoe to Drop (8/7/02)

BY PATRICIA MONTEMURRI
FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER

A Detroit Catholic bishop who runs Sacred Heart Major Seminary is one of eight U.S. bishops behind a call for an extraordinary, nationwide church council to combat the clergy sex abuse scandal by reaffirming traditional teachings.

Auxiliary Bishop Allen Vigneron, who is rector of the Archdiocese of Detroit's training college for priests, co-signed a letter that is circulating privately among the nation's 190-plus bishops.

The eight bishops want their colleagues to meet with priests and lay people in a so-called plenary council, the last of which occurred in this country in 1884 and gave rise to the Catholic school system.

"They want to have this council to reaffirm all the things the pope has been teaching, not change them," said the Rev. Thomas Reese, a Jesuit who is the editor of America magazine. "This council is not being called to start a revolution, but to reaffirm current teaching and practice in the church."

In light of the abuse scandal, many Catholic lay people across the country have called on their leaders to reconsider the church's bans on married and female priests. But the bishops' letter says that such a council should affirm Vatican teachings on celibacy for priests and other church doctrine.

A copy of the letter appeared in the online version of Crisis, a monthly magazine, without the bishops' signatures. There is no date for the meeting, which a majority of U.S. bishops and the Vatican would need to approve, Reese said.

The Free Press was provided a list of the signers Tuesday, which included: Archbishop Daniel Cronin, Hartford, Conn.; Archbishop Oscar Lipscomb, Mobile, Ala.; Archbishop James Keleher, Kansas City, Kan; Archbishop John Vlazny, Portland, Ore.; Bishop Raymond Burke, La Crosse, Wis.; Bishop Robert Morlino, Helena, Mont.; and Bishop Daniel DiNardo, Sioux City, Iowa.

Vigneron couldn't be reached for comment Tuesday.

Detroit Auxiliary Bishop Thomas Gumbleton said he feared such a meeting wouldn't foster a frank discussion about the issues that trouble many Catholics. Such a meeting, he said, could be "highly centralized, highly controlled and not where real, in-depth discussion would take place."

In the letter, the bishops said such a council should focus on: "What things need to be going on so that in this cultural milieu priests and bishops will preserve their celibate chastity along with all the other virtues that constitute the life of holiness."

To read the letter, go to www.crisismagazine.com.



Oscar Lipscomb of Atlanta
"Oscar Lipscomb is an intelligent, pastoral conservative with a sense of humor" -- AmericaPress
Liturgy Commission, NCCB. Adoremus.org hits first with his address to bishops on Liturgiam Authenticam.

John Vlazny of Portland
Biography. Out of Chicago area (as pastor). Signed a Pastoral Letter on the Columbia River with Hunthaesen and others. He's one of those who's been flooded with suits over quarter-century old claims, it seems.

Daniel Cronin of Hartford
"Archbishop Daniel Cronin of Hartford told the Hartford Courant that he "would have no problem" giving mandates to those now teaching theology in his diocese’s two Catholic colleges." Implementation of Ex Corde
Wonder if his proposed educating on homosexuality (at the behest of another and Dignity) transpired?


"Calling AIDS the ``black plague of our times,'' Kansas City, Kansas, Archbishop James Keleher said in a statement, ``It is no wonder that it (AIDS) has also touched Catholic clergy as well as ministers of other churches. But no matter how few clergy it has infected this is surely very sad.'' belingalive.org
Unfortunately a supporter of CHD but I'm sure the Mafia would break his legs if he weren't.

Raymond Burke of LaCrosse
Set up a review board for abuse cases. Green Ribbon NCRLC -- Catholic Rural Life Conference work. Adoremus "Last Things" on the care with which we bury the dead and hits at CUF (Catholics United For the Faith -- participated in some Kentucky conference)
(mentioned only in another's interesting account of a trip to Rome and discussion of homosexual issues -- CourageRC.net)

Robert Morlino of Helena
Homepage. Recommendations of the Montana bishops on Eucharistic Adoration. Catholic Mutual Relief Society. Opposes capital punishment.


Now on the USCCB Catechism Committee. A mention in one person's tale re: homeschooling/sex education. He asks an interesting question re: Ex Corde (if you want a view toward what substantiates an allegation of infidelity such that investigation is required).

Allen Vigneron of Detroit (auxiliary)
Allen Vigneron, rector of Sacred Heart Seminary. "Certainly no one has been accepted who has previously had an actively gay lifestyle," Vigneron said (related story a month earlier, 3/28/02). Ave Maria School of Law conference schedule held at Sacred Heart Seminary (html instead of PDF version). Contributor to upcoming book of essays on Fides et Ratio.
A strong argument for linking the penitential practice to the effort to overcome the "culture of death" was made by Bishop Allen Vigneron, an auxiliary bishop of Detroit.

Bishop Vigneron pointed out that penance was about repentance and also atonement for sin. He said "we do need to do penance for ourselves, insofar as we are all by our sinfulness implicated in this tremendous evil."

In addition, he said, to do penance for others is "a very important act of a priestly people." He noted the particular problem in Detroit of Dr. Kevorkian.

I feel that for myself, one of my great obligations is to do penance on his behalf. And, perhaps, by that penance merit for him a grace of repentance. So I would like the committee, please, to consider exactly that part of this is a form of atonement, a form of penitence for the sins of our age.

The proposal to study Friday abstinence was passed by a unanimous voice vote.

Petersnet

Well, I feel better having looked around. Could be they're ponying up to take some flak for the heavy hitters. Hope so.

13 posted on 08/07/2002 10:24:58 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Antoninus
I'm still left uneasy by this. The best voice in support of it is Gumbleton's in opposition, but that still doesn't give me great hope. I will trust the Church on this though, if it goes forward it may be a real turning point in America.

patent

14 posted on 08/07/2002 11:24:54 PM PDT by patent
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To: Antoninus
Vlazny is a good guy and very interested in evangelization.
15 posted on 08/07/2002 11:29:17 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: Askel5
Good job on the research here!
16 posted on 08/07/2002 11:32:05 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: Askel5
Halfway off-topic, but I have a question. Freepmail, if you want. Amazon has two versions of _Goodbye, Good Men_, one hard back, one paper back. Are they the same?
17 posted on 08/08/2002 5:00:43 AM PDT by Desdemona
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To: St.Chuck
The ommission of any well known orthodox bishops gives reason for pause.

Agreed. When I didn't see Bishops Bruskewitz' name, my cynical mind started formulating reasons why this might have been brought forward...

18 posted on 08/08/2002 5:09:47 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: cebadams
Detroit Auxiliary Bishop Thomas Gumbleton said he feared such a meeting wouldn't foster a frank discussion about the issues that trouble many Catholics. Such a meeting, he said, could be "highly centralized, highly controlled and not where real, in-depth discussion would take place

Translation; "Planned parenthood and PFLAG wouldn't be invited."

19 posted on 08/08/2002 5:12:44 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: Desdemona
Yes, the paperback was published first by Aquinas Publishing and then Regnery picked it up and published the hardcover version.
20 posted on 08/08/2002 5:15:43 AM PDT by ELS
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