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Did Communists Infiltrate the Catholic Church?
http://www.chuckmorse.com/communism_catholic_church.html ^ | Chuck Morse

Posted on 07/26/2002 2:35:57 PM PDT by narses

As a traditional Jew, I'm deeply concerned over the plight of the Roman Catholic Church, which I consider to be the largest and most influential repository of conservative Judeo-Christian values in America today. I believe that those of us who care about the furtherance of a moral society have a stake in the future of the church as a moral force. The American church is under siege today, not only from the usual external forces but also from the weight of its own internal contradictions. The scandal of corrupt homosexual priests violating the innocence of minors in their care is, to put it mildly, a contradiction in Christian and Catholic practice and faith. When did this corruption inject itself into the system and why was the situation allowed to deteriorate to such a degree?

Much has been written regarding Communist methods of infiltration. The standard method was to "bore from within" which involved Communists disguising themselves as loyalists to an organization they sought to undermine. Once gaining entry, they would gradually and subtly change the values and principles of the targeted organization. The process of "change" can take a generation. Communists have exhibited unlimited patience and supreme confidence in the ultimate attainment of their goals. Examples in America include substantial inroads by Communists into organized labor, academia, the legal profession, race relations, cultural institutions, and the government itself.

When planning to infiltrate, the Communists probe for an institutional weakness to exploit and, in the case of the Catholic Church, perhaps they perceived the weakness to reside in the all-male celibate priesthood. Did Communists send their followers, particularly homosexuals, sexual deviants, and enablers, into seminaries to become priests in order to foster a homosexual culture within the church? Homosexuals, practicing their predilections in an overwhelmingly conservative Catholic community, while given protection by well placed minded superiors, could certainly contribute to the undermining of faith in Catholicism and could unquestionably shake the credibility and moral standing of the church itself down to its very foundations. Undermining Catholic authority has been a clear and often stated goal of the Communist left. Speculation regarding how the Communists attempted to implement their program is reasonable and necessary in order to better understand the present situation.

Two former Communists, Bella Dodd and Manning Johnson, spoke on Communist infiltration of the Catholic Church. Dodd, an important Communist party lawyer, teacher and activist, converted to Catholicism in April 1952 under the tutelage of Bishop Fulton J. Sheen. Stating that the Communist infiltration was so extensive that in the future "you will not recognize the Catholic Church," Dodd also asserted that:

"In the 1930's, we put eleven hundred men into the priesthood in order to destroy the Church from within."

"Right now they are in the highest places, and they are working to bring about change in order that the Catholic Church will no longer be effective against Communism."

Manning Johnson, a former Communist Party official and author of "Color, Communism and Common Sense" testified in 1953 to the House un-American Activities Committee regarding the infiltration of the Catholic Church:

"Once the tactic of infiltration of religious organizations was set by the Kremlin ... the Communists discovered that the destruction of religion could proceed much faster through infiltration of the (Catholic) Church by Communists operating within the Church itself. The Communist leadership in the United States realized that the infiltration tactic in this country would have to adapt itself to American conditions (Europe also had its cells) and the religious make-up peculiar to this country. In the earliest stages it was determined that with only small forces available to them, it would be necessary to concentrate Communist agents in the seminaries. The practical conclusion drawn by the Red leaders was that these institutions would make it possible for a small Communist minority to influence the ideology of future clergymen in the paths conducive to Communist purposes This policy of infiltrating seminaries was successful beyond even our communist expectations."

As a radio talk show host and avid listener to talk radio in Boston, I've listened intently to comments by Catholics as the crisis has unfolded. Much has been said regarding the left dominance of the seminaries and a prevalence of the ideas of "liberation theology" which is a biblically contradictory Trojan horse within the Catholic gates. Establishment organs, such as the Boston Globe, continue to wring their hands over the homosexual activities of priests while supporting a homosexual agenda everywhere else. Hopefully, the Catholic flock will wake up and sweep the corruption out of their church in the same way that their founder, Jesus of Nazareth, swept the moneychangers out of the Temple.

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1 posted on 07/26/2002 2:35:57 PM PDT by narses
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To: saradippity; *Catholic_list; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Askel5; livius; ...
Ping. I kept asking about this and decided to do a google search and voila`, an answer.
2 posted on 07/26/2002 2:37:42 PM PDT by narses
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To: narses
"liberation theology" which is a biblically contradictory Trojan horse within the Catholic gates.

Bingo!

BTW, you find the darndest articles. Ever look for anything positivie about the Catholic Church?

3 posted on 07/26/2002 2:53:21 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: Salvation
What happens is I either ask a question or get asked one wrt a particular topic and then I go looking. I haven't been here that long, but I have no doubt I will find many positive articles. One area I've been thinking of doing research on is the teaching and nursing orders. I hope I find that there is a resurgence going on there.
4 posted on 07/26/2002 3:00:42 PM PDT by narses
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To: narses
I hope I find that there is a resurgence going on there.

We certainly need good teachers and nurses in this time and age, that's for sure!

5 posted on 07/26/2002 3:06:49 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: Salvation
Absolutely, and those are two areas of real strength for the Church both naturally and supernaturally.
6 posted on 07/26/2002 3:28:17 PM PDT by narses
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To: narses
I appreciate the interesting article and the ping. Since you say you are new around here, I will point out one little thing:

Please e-mail for Chuck's PERMISSION in advance, to post, reprint, or reproduce this article for any other format of publication, electronic or otherwise.

I don't want to sound like a nit-picker, but you probably should have just posted the first paragraph and a link, like we do for the LATimes and Wash Post (lawsuit -- remember?) Tsk, tsk.

Now that I've acted like one of those obnoxious sitepests, do you have any idea when this was written? Chuck's website just says copywrite 2000, 2001, 20002. Please don't take me off your ping list just because I mildly reprimanded you (I didn't scream ABUSE). Your articles are very informative, and I enjoy them very much.

7 posted on 07/26/2002 3:33:03 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: narses
Yep. During the 30's both the higher education system and the church (among other institutions)were infiltrated a la Antonio Gramsci. We can weed them out but we have to go back to ascetics.Here are some related links: http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3b555c262d74.htm http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b69d0df724b.htm http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3a2d1c346bcc.htm
8 posted on 07/26/2002 3:33:50 PM PDT by Domestic Church
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To: narses
I don't care when this was written. It's scary.
9 posted on 07/26/2002 3:52:44 PM PDT by Desdemona
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To: narses
Look to the Nashville Dominicans (of St. Cecilia) for a wonderful teaching order. And then there is Mother Assumpta Long's new foundation They are teaching orders worth cheering about!
10 posted on 07/26/2002 4:02:22 PM PDT by Siobhan
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This is one frightening article, narses. But I thank you for posting it.

Pinging and a bump.

11 posted on 07/26/2002 4:04:58 PM PDT by Siobhan
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To: Siobhan
My pleasure. Thanks for the link.
12 posted on 07/26/2002 4:08:41 PM PDT by narses
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To: afraidfortherepublic
You're probably right. Is there any way to edit a post?
13 posted on 07/26/2002 4:09:41 PM PDT by narses
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To: Domestic Church
Wow, it will take me days to sort through all of that. Thank you.
14 posted on 07/26/2002 4:17:55 PM PDT by narses
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To: Domestic Church
From the Current Communist Goals thread:

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

Yikes!

15 posted on 07/26/2002 4:34:09 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: Domestic Church
Outstanding links.
16 posted on 07/26/2002 4:35:31 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: narses
I don't know. You could probably ask the Admin Moderator to pull the post and then repost it with an intorductory paragraph and a link. Of just click on the link on teh author's home page and ask the author if it's OK to post. He may be happy to give permission.

It's a very interesting article, so I hope it won't be lost.

17 posted on 07/26/2002 5:04:57 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Domestic Church
Great links indeed!

I have a real aversion to conspiracy theories, simply because they've always seemed too convenient, somehow. But I must admit that I have occasionally wondered about this one.

Obviously, the Communists per se are long gone. But it seems all too possible that they may have cleverly poisoned the source (the seminaries). Modernism, of course, was a problem in the Church long before the left became very active in the US. But one of the things that made the Communists so effective (and made it necessary for them to be rooted out of many environments in the 1950s) was their ability to take over things that by their own nature tended to agree with them, and use them to further their own purposes.

I still think, of course, that the main responsibility for the problems of the Church lies with Satan. But just as God uses instruments, Satan does, too. And it's certainly plausible that the Communists were pretty powerful weapons, all the more so for being so covert.
18 posted on 07/26/2002 5:17:26 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius
When you look at the communist goals of smearing institutions, also look at the Clinton legacy. There was degradation of the highest office in this nation.(There also was an Arkansas state trooper on a Clinton related case who died from weaponized anthrax.)
19 posted on 07/26/2002 5:24:58 PM PDT by Domestic Church
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To: narses
As a traditional Jew, I'm deeply concerned over the plight of the Roman Catholic Church.

Up front, I have to admit that, based on his past articles, I think Chuck Morse is a scaremonger.

I wonder why, if he's Jewish, he's not focusing on his own people, who largely support socialism, both in Israel and in the United States.

20 posted on 07/26/2002 5:27:17 PM PDT by sinkspur
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