Posted on 06/09/2026 6:32:53 AM PDT by Cronos
“What a farmer doesn't know, he doesn't eat,” a phrase I've heard often in my life. This applies not only to food but also to many other areas. It is often the basis for many prejudices but at the same time—to be fair—it can also be a good defense in certain situations. When does it apply and when doesn't it?
The average casual visitor to our website may well raise their eyebrows. “What's that? Noahides?” Some will know what it means, especially the conscious visitor. It is what I noticed earlier when, as a Reformed/PKN member, I eventually moved towards Messianism via an evangelical church. There, you could also feel the judgment of traditional Christianity towards those somewhere in between Christians who leaned towards Judaism.
Those same Messianics, who sometimes already consider themselves Jewish but are still truly Christians, often feel treated that way by traditional Christianity, but those same Messianic Christians can also be harsh when people from their circle make the step toward true Judaism. I was regularly reviled by those same people. I had denied JC, some said.
To all those people who are part of certain mainstream faiths, particularly Christian ones, who are full of judgment toward other groups, small faith groups with parallels and certainly differences, I now ask the following: Go back to the time when your religion was slowly taking shape. Would those early believers recognize themselves in your churches today? Were they exactly like you are now, with all the dogma and rules of today, with the Trinity and Sunday and churches with organs or praise bands of today?
Let this sink in for a moment. Many of you are Protestants, and Protestants are, by definition, seekers of truth. This began with all kinds of details filled in by the only church that existed here before Protestantism, the Roman Catholic Church. Well, you could also say that Noahides and even those messiahs are seekers of truth.
The term “Noachides” is open to debate. I prefer to call myself a righteous person from among the nations or, even better, a follower of Torah and Judaism who is not halachically Jewish and has a strong desire to continue as a gioer (another discussion altogether). But this is absolutely not a sect. My fellow believers and I come from all kinds of backgrounds, but we share one core value, which is the Jewish source in which we find our beliefs.
Was JC not a Jew? And what do I think of JC now? As a person, I have no problem with him. There is plenty of historical evidence that someone existed at that time—with a Jewish name, not a Greek one, by the way—but his fan club morphed everything afterwards. It went through a kind of Greek/Roman Christian filter.
The ONE God, HaShem, was changed by that fan club into a trinity, and the day of rest, which had been the Sabbath since time immemorial, was moved by one day, and the pagan names of months and days + also days from midnight to midnight, nowhere to be found in the Bible or in the Tanakh, took the place of everything.
Back to the beginning, “what the farmer doesn't know, he doesn't eat.” You can stay here and kick against everything you find here, even if you yourself are a Messianic Jew and receive similar treatment from mainstream Christianity. It's easier if you're Catholic or Protestant or Reformed. Then you can easily judge and condemn Noahism as a sect.
But would you also call Judaism a cult? Perhaps you would reject it just like Islam, or perhaps as a Christian, Jew, or Muslim you would reject all other religions, which is your right. But Noahides are seekers of truth with very good arguments and a study of what God says and teaches. Nothing less than you and perhaps... Perhaps closer to the source and detached from rules and dogma devised later.
Take off your glasses of prejudice, become aware of these prejudices. Go searching and discover that “we” are not so crazy.
“Ein od milwado” -> look it up! ;)
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Noahide theology depends heavily on the Oral Torah (Mishnah, Talmud), historically the Seven Laws are extrapolated from Genesis 9 but expanded in Rabbinic literature post-70 AD, not directly commanded in the Torah. Linguistically, terms like “pious among the Gentiles” (chasid umot ha’olam) in Rabbinic texts assume authority over Gentile salvation, which Jesus critiqued in Pharisaic traditions (Matthew 15:1-9).
- Maimonides (Rambam) explicitly states that Gentiles “are not to be allowed to originate a new religion or create new commandments” (Hilchot Melachim 10:9). They must either fully convert to Judaism or observe only the Seven Laws without additions or subtractions. Orthodox rabbis view the modern Noahide movement—with its communities, study groups, self-identified “rabbis” or leaders, rituals, websites, and organized outreach—as crossing into inventing a new faith or hybrid system, rather than simple individual observance.
- Many authorities (including Rambam and others) prohibit Gentiles from voluntarily taking on Jewish mitzvot like Shabbat observance, wearing tefillin, or studying non-Noahide parts of Torah in depth, viewing it as “theft” from the Jewish covenant (based on interpretations like Sanhedrin 59a: “A gentile who engages in Torah is liable to death”)
- The Orthodox Rabbis hold that those entering the Noahid movement are former Christians (or disaffected from other faiths) motivated by anti-Christian sentiment, bitterness toward Christianity, or a desire to “be like Jews” without full commitment (conversion)
Now we can discuss your beliefs here - for you
The premise underlying the Noahide Law against idolatry, for example, is that Christianity would be considered idolatry (since Jesus is worshipped as God). And the Rabbinic commentary on it is more than enough to validate this (https://lawyerlisa.substack.com/p/research-the-noahide-laws).
Oddly enough, both Reagan (https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/archives/speech/proclamation-4921-national-day-reflection) and Congress (https://www.congress.gov/101/statute/STATUTE-104/STATUTE-104-Pg130.pdf) considered them “a moral code for all of us regardless of religious faith”, and the bedrock of civilization...which I’m sure would have been news to the Founders.
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A definition:
Noahides are non-Jews who follow the Seven Laws of Noah, which are universal moral laws derived from Jewish tradition. These laws include prohibitions against idolatry, murder, theft, and other immoral behaviors, and they are seen as a way for non-Jews to live righteously according to Jewish teachings.
Contrarians
Thanks
BFL
That was a shameful time. We wiped out the world’s Nauga population just to obtain their uncomfortable hides for our vehicles and furniture. At least the Corinthians provided their fine leather products for Cordobas. Then they tried to cover it up by saying the Naugas shed their skin so they don’t have to be killed for their hides. But have you seen a Nauga since the 1980s? Neither have I.
Article with inaccuracies. The RCC being the only church before Protestanism. Jesus and His Disciples were Jews. Thousands of years before the RCC God’s Church was alive.
Interesting
What are they?
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22Who is the liar, if it is not the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, who denies the Father and the Son. 23Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father, but whoever confesses the Son has the Father as well.
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They apparently are an antichrist faith system/religion according to one of Christ’s Apostles who witnessed His ministry ,death, burial and Resurrection.
But there’s lots of those around that would be defined that way.
There’s another part of the definition for antichrist, but it wouldn’t apply in this case.
But hey, Christ proclaimed that as it was in the Days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.
Maybe they are around today to be a sign.
I wouldn’t jump in their Ark though.
The True Ark is in Heaven.
It’s nice to know when the rain began to fall in Noah’s day though.
Wonder if they mark that day with commemorations every year or completely ignore it.
What’s really fascinating is how that day actually ties into Genesis Creation week, but my guess is Noahides are well versed in the Creation story and need not Daniel’s 4th Beast to tell them what day it is.
I don’t remember Noah ever hiding
Uhh. No.
House churches existed long before the RC church existed.
If you sit on that couch every day you get to go to heaven.
Lol.
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The King of the Universe is searching out
The Repentatent Heart that Wishes to Glorify Him in Spirit and Truth Forever.
As Pilgrams we earnestly Seek Our Saviors face but We Will Not Attain Heavenly Perfection until We Are Beckond Home.
Isaiah 41:8
Isaiah 44:1
Isaiah 44:21
Jeremiah 30:10
Jacob = Israel = Chosen nation, before the Anointed One (Christ).
Replaced by “pleather”
“Jesus and His Disciples were Jews.”
specifically they were 2nd temple Jews - with the animal sacrifices in the temple as sin offerings etc. — they were NOT rabbinical Jews (Jews since 70 AD with no animal sacrifices or temple)
there is a difference
What most people call Noahides today are the people who are aware of that fact and try to live by those laws instead of practicing other religions.
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