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Posted on 02/10/2026 5:48:50 AM PST by CharlesOConnell
We Catholics have special Latin words for the honor shown the Saints. (Even our separated Protestant brethren do this: There is a stained glass depiction of John Calvin at Westminister Presbyterian Church south of the California State Capitol on N. Street.)
We give a level of honor to saints called "doulia" (from "doulos", from Greek for "servant", referring to our relation to them.) Because Catholics believe that Jesus endowed His mother with special perfection above all angels and saints, we give her the highest honor called "hyperdoulia"; in the history of the English language, this special "worthiness" was called "worship"; "your worship" is an expression of respect in the grammatical, vocative (address) case in English literature.
But our understanding of ourselves is that we reserve "adoration" for God alone, which we call "latria". We don't give latria to the Blessed Virgin Mary, despite there being a deprecatory word "mariolotry", "idolatry of Mary", in the Merriam-Webster Dictionary.
When Mary's dignity was recently limited by the Vatican, so that church documents couldn't call her "Mediatrix of All Graces", you have to stop and wonder how unwise those people are. They have cast their lot with her demonic enemies, who are actually really terrified of her.
So the cowardlyv demons get their unwise little puppets to do their dirty work for them, increasing the torment of the punishments they are earning for themselves, both the men and the demons, with their intellectually shabby assaults on her dignity in comparison with her great knightly defenders of the past.
We little people have known all about this, as you can hear in common, pre-conciliar hymns that proclaim her greatness in the face of the vile demons' assaults against her.
Hymns for Honoring our Blessed Lady as our Blessed Lord Would Wish
https://www.sing-prayer.org/hymns-for-honoring-our-blessed-lady-as-our-blessed-lord-would-wish
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Nailed to a cross, struggling to breathe, any words spoken required Herculean strength to utter. This was the pulpit from which the most important sermon was ever preached to all of humanity and what did Our Lord and Savior say to you?
“Behold your mother!”
CHRISTIANS DISS MARY ALL THE TIME.....THE MOTHER OF JESUS.....STUPID.
The Roman church practices essentially fan fiction based on Scripture and then argues because they have been doing it for 1400 years a certain way some backwater German bishop decreed it should be done back in like 478.
We got some guy around here who descended into a DU frothing madness when 4-5 of us tried to explain that no where in the scriptures does it say Mary was taken up into heaven in a way similar to Elijah and Enoch.
Man, thank God this is your only way to relay your idiocy. Better here than standing at an intersection, holding a sign, with your pants around your ankles...
Please stay inside, away from society and pound away on your keyboard.
I feel.sorry for what your cats have to listen to.
Poor, stupid, hopeless idiot.
Lets not repeat the Thirty Years’ War (1618–1648) gentleman!
I have had many friends and associates of different faiths / denominations. They all have struck me as good and decent, else I probably would have not continued such friendships and associations.
My take on how people express themselves these days breaks into two quite different groups'
"I'm right and you're wrong." Also known as "I'm saved and you're damned." And similar sorts of expressions.Religions and denominations within a specific religion find proponents of one and proponents of another.--- versus ---
We can disagree respectfully.
And, yes, I have attended services with members of varying faiths as their guests, when occasionally asked. Never found a clergy member willing to say "you're damned." Seems the wise will leave that up to God as final arbiter and advocate.
Best wishes.
They fought more even wars than that, sometimes over what we would now consider pretty trivial dogmatic disputes.
Dude ... read the entire verse. He was speaking to John and told John that “Behold your mother”. This was an instruction for John to treat her as his own mother and take care of her. The verse finishes with “... and from that hour that disciple took her to his own home.
She is not your mother. She was a human. She died. She needed salvation just the same as you. She does not hold any special place in Heaven. Praying to her violates Jesus teaching that you should not pray to the dead.
Jesus said, “I am the way, the truth, and the light. No man comes unto the father but by me.” Not me and/or Mary. Prayers to Mary are nothing but making Satan laugh because he has redirected you from praying to God to praying to a false idol. Jesus is our intercessor before the father. We do not need an intercessor before Jesus. He came here for that singular purpose, that by dying on the cross HE gave his life to spare ours ... not Mary.
You might also want to read Matthew 12:48-50. When Jesus was schooling the Pharisees on how demonic possession and exorcism work in reality, Mary and Jesus’s brothers tried to get him to stop. He rebuked them and pointed at the disciples and said “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers? Pointing at his disciples he said “Here are my mother and my brothers. For whomever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”
This should tell you that Mary has no special place in Heaven by Jesus’s side, nor does she have and special dispensary powers. Yes, she was chosen to give him birth, and he loved her, but unless she too asked forgiveness of her sins from Jesus, she would not be in Heaven.
Stop treating Jesus and Mary like Nimrod and Semaramis.
The 30 years war was, like all inter-Christian wars, cynically exploited by politicians to gain favor.
The German princelings used the new beliefs of Martin Luther to be able to gain total control over their territories from the Emperor.
And supposedly “Catholic France” backstabbed the Catholic Emperor by allying with the German princelings.
you see the same disgusting “Christian unity” in 1683 at the battle of Vienna, when not only did the Calvinist Hungarians fights on the side of the Ottoman sultan, but “Catholic France” allied itself with the Ottomans against the Holy Roman Empire.
Yep.
I'm just here for the
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Darn you! I was finishing my last cuppa, and --- dribble, snort and chuckle. Good on you!
100%. Also maddening that Britain and France allied with the same filthy Ottomans against Russia in the Crimean War.
I look at other intra-Christian fights as heavily politicised and ethnically bound:
The Assyrian church ie the Ancient church of the east , split away in 240 AD as it was under the rival Persian Sassanid empire who wanted their own Christians not tied to the Christians in the Roman empire. The entire Nestorian bit was hyped up but in reality their theology is from Mar Babai and similar to the Catholic-Orthodox-Coptic but with Aramaic words
Then the split of the Oriental Orthodox - the Copts, the Ethiopians, the Syriacs and the Armenians was, to my mind, non-Greek speakers rising up against Greek domination.
The Catholic-Orthodox split was exacerbated by the Roman emperor losing control of the west definitively after Justinian’s “Italic wars” and the Emperor was P!$$ed off when Charlemagne was crowned (Western) Roman emperor - or rather EmpRESS — Empress Irene of Athens ame to sole power in 797 AD by overthrowing her son, Constantine VI. Following her orders, he was captured and blinded—an act so brutal it likely led to his death shortly thereafter.
On Christmas Day, 800 AD, the Pope crowned Charlemagne as “Emperor of the Romans” in St. Peter’s Basilica.
This act created the “Problem of Two Emperors,” as the folks in Constnatinople viewed themselves as the only legitimate successors to the Roman Empire and saw Charlemagne as a barbarian usurper.
Since the collapse of the Western Roman Empire during late antiquity, the Byzantine Empire had been recognized as the legitimate Roman Empire by itself, the pope, and the various Christian kingdoms throughout Europe. This changed in 797 when Emperor Constantine VI was deposed and replaced as ruler by his mother, Empress Irene, whose rule was not accepted in Western Europe. Pope Leo III proclaimed the king of the Franks, Charlemagne, as the emperor of the Romans in 800 under the concept of translatio imperii (transfer of imperial power). Although the two empires eventually recognized each other’s rulers as emperors, they never explicitly recognized the other as “Roman”.
This all got pushed to the churches (of course) and the schism in 1054 was to my mind made-up to justify the politics)
“Also maddening that Britain and France allied with the same filthy Ottomans against Russia in the Crimean War.”
ooohh... yes - have you read ‘The Crimean war” by Orlando Figes? it always maddens me - if the English and the French had not interfered, then
1. the Russians would have captured Constantinople and made Hagia Sophia a church once more
2. they would have removed the Ottoman yoke from not only the Balkans but potentially the coastline of Anatolia as well as Armenia — of course they would have replaced it with the Romanov yoke, but at least it would have been a Christian yoke.
3. Russia, by conquering Constantinople might have focused its attentions to the south and not interfered in Europe any more - Russia was always better off fighting Asian powers (and winning), rather than European powers.
I have not, sir, but will endeavor to do so.
The Russians used the first-ever exploding shell in sea combat to great effect. But the British yellow press portrayed it as a "massacre" and riled up the people against Russia. Not much has changed.
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