Posted on 11/24/2025 9:01:59 AM PST by ebb tide
Today, Pope Leo XIV has appointed Rev Yohanes Hans Monteiro, 54, as Bishop of Larantuka, Indonesia.
He was ordained a priest on July 14, 1999. The article's picture shows him in 2024 celebrating 25 years as priest.
Rev Monteiro completed a doctorate in 2018 in liturgy at the anti-Catholic University of Vienna, Austria.
"No Harm If Women Are Ordained"
In 2024, Monsignor Monteiro wrote together with a certain Fransiska Widyawati a 16 page study entitled “Paus Fransiskus dan Kepemimpinan Perempuan dalam Gereja Katolik” (Pope Francis and women’s leadership in the Catholic Church). He acknowledges that "current" teaching "definitively" reserves priestly ordination to baptized males. But then he argues in favour of female ordination. His main quotes:
- "The Catholic Church is often considered far behind, especially when compared to other Christian churches."
- "When the neighboring churches have ordained women as priests, are their worship and ecclesial life not accepted by Jesus Christ?"
- "Materially, no one experiences harm or danger if a woman is ordained, as in other Christian churches."
- "In a situation where men are no longer interested in becoming priests, should the Church still close the possibility for women to become priests?"
- "If the principle [exclusion of women from Holy Orders] can still be changed, then when is the time? Why wait so long?"
- "The idea of changing women’s ordination is not an issue related to mortal danger… It is a matter of accepted interpretation, legal standing, and the law used."
- "That equality [of sexes] must be extended to all aspects, including ordination."
- "For those who are opposed, Ordinatio sacerdotalis does not bring progress for the struggle for women’s ordination; indeed, it represents a regression because it closes discussion and dialogue."
- "It may be surmised that sooner or later, the Church will change its tradition."
Ping
Favors the Protestant model, meaning the Protestant “churches” that not only have female pastors but also promote hedonism. He’d be better to promote the evangelical model.
“Protestants as role models “? I had to check to see if this was the Babylon Bee.
Good luck with that. In 20 years, all new priests will be female.
Churches that ordain women are mostly no longer Christian. Don’t know why it should have to be that way, since women can be effective teachers and fill almost any other role very well. But the churches that ordain them formally into the clergy almost universally have lost the plot.
But then, the upper levels of Catholic clergy are sadly just as lost.
Then he should get ordained as a Protestant Minister.
This heretic can’t read:
1 Timothy 2:11–14
1 Timothy 3:1–7 & Titus 1:5–9
1 Corinthians 11:3 & Ephesians 5:22–33
1 Corinthians 14:34–35
Not to mention the original priestly laws in the Laws of Mt Sinai and historical precedent.
It’s not a subject of discussion. It may seem unfair to modern people (or may be reasonable given how stupidly so many women vote), but regardless we didn’t make the rules. We follow them.
He called churches other than the Catholic Church, Christian. There are FReepers who claim that other churches are not Christian, that only the Catholic Church is Christian. Interesting.
BTW, the above is a photo of Wales's first female bishop.
- “It may be surmised that sooner or later, the Church will change its tradition.”
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and become either Protestant or muslim which ever fits the model at the time. and people wonder why church attendance is down.
“Leo XIV Appoints Bishop Monteiro: Favours Female Ordination, Refers to Protestants as Role Model”. Doesn’t seem very Catholic.
I was born and raised Catholic. My mother was a devout Catholic, my father a devout Eastern Orthodox Christian.
I would have no problem if the Catholic Church eventually allows married clergy.
My father’s Orthodox priest (married with two kids and multiple grandkids) is one of the kindest, most caring and most attentive pastors I have ever seen.
When my mother was ill and dying, my dad’s pastor spent as much time if not more with us than our parish’s Catholic priest.
Men like him should be allowed to serve as priests. That is one change that the Catholic Church should consider.
Good News! Rome will deal with the gay priesthood problem!
Bad News! The priestesses will be lesbos.
Genuflect!
I tend to agree. I served as a deacon for a long time (and technically remain a deacon). There are some good reasons for a celibate priesthood, but it’s squarely within human discretion to allow marriage.
Women is a black letter issue.
There are some valid things to emulate from Protestant traditions, like more emphasis on reading the Bible. Women in Church leadership is not one of them.
Kind of obtuse. The onset and widespread ordination of women has sounded the death knell of many a protestant church.
Leo XIV Appoints Bishop Monteiro: Favours Female Ordination, Refers to Protestants as Role Model
1 Timothy 2:12 shows us that Apostle Paul was led by the Holy Spirit to teach us that he doesn't permit a woman to have authority over a man.
The thing is that there are lots of groups that call themselves “evangelical Christian” but have pastoresses.
The slippery slope has been proven over and over again.
Conservatives end up conserving old leftist victories while the crazy leftists keep marching on....
Until Satanists rule your church.
Red herring argument.
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