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UMC’s ‘General Council on Finance’ President Warns: ‘The church’s financial house is on fire’
Protestia ^ | November 21, 2025 | staff

Posted on 11/24/2025 1:07:05 AM PST by Morgana

The United Methodist Church’s financial leaders are sounding the alarm that the denomination is about to be in a world of financial hurt, declaring ‘The church’s financial house is on fire’ during the UMC’s Finance and Administration meeting last week.

The ominous comments were made by Bishop David Graves, General Council on Finance and Administration board president, who added ‘My intent is not to create fear but to address the reality with honesty and urgency.”

The UMC has lost more than 7500 churches over the last three years, the result of church mass departures and disaffiliations over the denomination’s all-out celebration of gay marriage and the LGBTQification of the church.

These defections, in turn, led the UMC to propose its smallest budget in 40 years, nearly half of what it was a decade prior, prompting leadership to “rethinking ministry expenses at all levels of the denomination” as they wrestle with “the biggest budget drop in the denomination’s history.”

Graves was quoted in the UMNews as warning:

“When a house is on fire, the first thing you do is focus on what matters most. For us, that is people, mission and ministry. That means every church and conference doing its part through apportionment giving — not because of obligation alone, but because ministry depends on it.”

Apportionments- giving above and beyond a church’s singular needs to fund United Methodist ministry and operations- are massively down, and are not expected to meet their goal.

As of the end of October, U.S. conferences had given about 51.8% of the year’s requested apportionments — or about $45 million so far. Conferences in Africa, Europe and the Philippines overall have paid about 40.7% of requested apportionments — or about $623,400 so far.

Fewer funds means fewer opportunities to spread their noxious brand of progressive poison, and we can only pray that mass layoffs and continued shrinkage is in their near future.


TOPICS: Mainline Protestant
KEYWORDS: 2ndpeter2vvs6thru9; apostasy; apostate; church; fallingaway; gay; genesischapter19; godless; godlessreprobates; homosexualagenda; lastdays; lgbt; lgbtq; methodist; prideparades; sodomandgomorrah; trans; transgender
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1 posted on 11/24/2025 1:07:05 AM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana
UMC: ‘The church’s financial house is on fire’

"Burn this bitch down!" — Michael Brown's stepfather.

2 posted on 11/24/2025 1:25:46 AM PST by Governor Dinwiddie ( O give thanks unto the Lord, for He is gracious, and his mercy endures forever. — Psalm 106)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

AI Overview:

The United Methodist Church (UMC) has recently enacted historic policy changes to fully include LGBTQ+ individuals, a significant shift after decades of division.
Key Changes as of 2024-2025

At its General Conference in May 2024, the UMC, one of the largest Protestant denominations, voted overwhelmingly to REMOVE LONG-STANDING BANS on LGBTQ+ clergy and same-sex marriages. These changes became effective on January 1, 2025.

The new official policies include:

Ordination:

The ban on ordaining “self-avowed, practicing homosexuals” has been lifted, allowing boards of ordained ministry to recommend candidates based on qualifications.

Marriage Equality:

UMC clergy ARE NOW PERMITTED TO PERFORM SAME-SEX WEDDINGS IN CHURCH FACILITIES, with the decision left to individual clergy and local church leadership.

Non-Discrimination:

Language stating that “the practice of homosexuality is incompatible with Christian teaching” HAS BEEN REMOVED from the Book of Discipline. The church now affirms the “sacred worth” of all people and supports basic human rights regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity.


3 posted on 11/24/2025 1:44:47 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: Morgana; fwdude
LGBTQ+

SATAN is using the Godless Reprobate Agendas to DESTROY NORMAL SOCIETY and the World 🌎🌍 with his old lies from Sodom and Gomorrah in Genesis chapter 19

All According to SATAN'S Plan

Rainbow White House happened on Friday, June 26, 2015 - turning the White House into a Godless Reprobate Abomination

Look at the sheer number of people
that turn out for Sodom and Gomorrah
🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️ Pride Parades 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈

Like mindless zombies 🧟‍♀️🧟‍♂️🧟🧟‍♀️🧟‍♂️🧟





Sound Doctrine applies
ESPECIALLY here


Do NO harm, Christians, but REJECT this
Godless Reprobate Agenda.

(For the thread)
4 posted on 11/24/2025 1:48:58 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: SaveFerris
Ugh. John Wesley never envisioned this.

5 posted on 11/24/2025 1:49:26 AM PST by Governor Dinwiddie ( O give thanks unto the Lord, for He is gracious, and his mercy endures forever. — Psalm 106)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie; SaveFerris

I’ve said it a million times, this is NOT my Grandma’s Methodist church! I just shake my head every time I post these stories.


6 posted on 11/24/2025 1:52:42 AM PST by Morgana ( “Abortion is the ultimate exploitation of women.” — Alice Paul 🇺🇸 )
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

This continued slide into Godless Reprobate Apostasy
is still very shocking 😲😱🤯😟

BUT it was prophesied for the Last Days in the Scriptures

To just before the rise of Satan’s Antichrist


(LGBTQ+)

The Word of God is ABSOLUTELY
CLEAR and IMMUTABLE
(for the thread 🧵):


They didn’t like being JUDGED when
they were actually being WARNED ⚠️⚠️⚠️ too
but they WOULD NOT REPENT of
their Gay 🏳️‍🌈 Pride Parade 🏳️‍🌈
and Homosexual Lusts

They’re absolutely committed to their
Reprobate cause - they will not stop 🛑🛑🛑
(most of them)

The men in the streets of Sodom and
Gomorrah didn’t even think about
repenting - they only said that they
would do WORSE to Lot than what they
had planned for the two angels of God

And they planned to gang-rape the 2 angels
(as if that would have been allowed
to happen - ABSOLUTELY WOULDN’T)


Genesis 19:4-11
King James Version

4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:

5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,

7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.

8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

9 And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, AND HE WILL NEEDS BE A JUDGE: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.

10 But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door.

11 And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%2019%3A4-11&version=KJV


People who want to further this agenda
are flying in the face of Almighty God


I pray 🙏🛐✝️🙏 that they
Read, Learn and Repent of this Abomination

2nd Peter 2:6-9
New King James Version

6 AND TURNING THE CITIES OF SODOM AND GOMORRAH INTO ASHES, condemned them to destruction, MAKING THEM AN EXAMPLE to those who afterward would live ungodly;

7 and delivered righteous Lot, who was OPPRESSED BY THE FILTHY CONDUCT OF THE WICKED

8 (for that righteous man, dwelling among them, TORMENTED HIS RIGHTEOUS SOUL from day to day BY SEEING AND HEARING THEIR LAWLESS DEEDS)—

9 then the Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations and to reserve the unjust under punishment for the Day of Judgment,

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Peter%202%3A6-9&version=NKJV


7 posted on 11/24/2025 1:54:47 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: Morgana


8 posted on 11/24/2025 1:56:01 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman; Karliner; 444Flyer; Nervous Tick; metmom; Maudeen; Bulwyf; HeadOn; ...

2nd Thessalonians 2:2-4
21st Century King James Version

2 that ye be not soon shaken in mind or be troubled,
neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter
as if from us that the Day of Christ is at hand.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means,
for that Day shall not come,
UNLESS THERE COME A FALLING AWAY FIRST,
and that Man of Sin be revealed,
the Son of Perdition,

4 who opposeth and exalteth himself above all
that is called God or that is worshiped,
so that he sitteth as God in the temple of God,
showing himself to be God.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Thessalonians%202%3A2-4&version=KJ21


9 posted on 11/24/2025 2:02:29 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: SaveFerris

This another result of USAID drying up? No more NGO activities?


10 posted on 11/24/2025 2:07:09 AM PST by Kudsman (Remember the Alamo? Good. Now recall the Plaskett surrender. )
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To: Kudsman

I don’t know 😐


11 posted on 11/24/2025 2:25:55 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: Morgana

The 2030’s will be an EXTINCTION EVENT for the UMC. Churches will collapse like dominos. Then, the denomination will be left with empty former churches that they can sell.

Giving is demographic. People give the most in their 60s because they are highly skilled, high paid and have paid down their houses. Then, they retire and income and giving both fall off a cliff.


12 posted on 11/24/2025 2:39:24 AM PST by MMusson ( )
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To: Morgana

They’ll have to cut back on costumes, makeup and lube.


13 posted on 11/24/2025 3:06:43 AM PST by fwdude (Why is there a "far/radical right," but damned if they'll admit that there is a far/radical left)
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To: Morgana

Maybe the UMC should reverse the ban on reading the Bible.


14 posted on 11/24/2025 3:23:02 AM PST by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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To: Morgana

Agreed. I’m proud of the Methodist churches that left the hedonistic UMC and joined the Bible-centered GMC.


15 posted on 11/24/2025 3:32:06 AM PST by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Morgana

Go WOKE, Go broke.


16 posted on 11/24/2025 3:39:42 AM PST by AZJeep (sane )
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To: SaveFerris

It is interesting that these types like to bring up Jesus saying let ye without sin cast the first stone, but never mention what happened next. Jesus tells the woman to go and sin no more.


17 posted on 11/24/2025 3:43:43 AM PST by blitz128
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To: Morgana
‘The church’s financial house is on fire’

Dudes!

Worry about the fire that never goes out!

18 posted on 11/24/2025 3:46:38 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kudsman

This another result of USAID drying up? No more NGO activities?


I’m sure that was part of it. And likely part of the motivation for going full LGBTQ+ retard too.


19 posted on 11/24/2025 3:55:22 AM PST by rbg81 (=)
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To: Morgana

Neither is the catholic church (that’s always been corrupt) but folks keep flocking to see the pope wherever the pope mobile shows up...


20 posted on 11/24/2025 3:57:55 AM PST by Maskot (Put every dem/lib in prison........like yesterday!!! )
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