Posted on 06/03/2025 9:23:43 AM PDT by ebb tide
There is breaking news today from Rome where Pope Leo is correcting the Francis record on cohabitation. Pope Francis created worldwide scandal when on June 16, 2016, he said cohabitation is “real marriage” and has the grace of real marriage. I know that is hard to believe, so we have it for you on video and the Vatican transcript.
“In Argentina’s northeast countryside … couples have a child and live together. They have a civil wedding when the child goes to school, and when they become grandparents they ‘get married religiously’,” Francis said.
“It’s a superstition, because marriage frightens the husband. It’s a superstition we have to overcome,” the Pope said. “I’ve seen a lot of fidelity in these cohabitations, and I am sure that this is a real marriage, they have the grace of a real marriage because of their fidelity.”
He didn’t only say it once. On February 25, 2017, he made similar remarks speaking to the Roman Rota. And one of his closest advisors, his most frequent interviewer, Jesuit priest Antonio Spadaro, tweeted out a photo of a couple going hand-in-hand to meet with the Pope. The caption on the photo, as you can see, contains the words of the Pope: “The welcoming of those young people who prefer to live together without getting married…”
Imagine how confusing that is to young people.
Well, today at the Vatican, Pope Leo addressed the issue of cohabitation with these words: “Perhaps many young people today, who choose cohabitation instead of Christian marriage, actually need someone who, in a concrete and understandable way—especially by the example of their life—shows them what the gift of sacramental grace is and what strength it brings; someone who helps them understand ‘the beauty and greatness of the vocation to love and to the service of life’ that God gives to spouses (St. John Paul II, Apostolic Exhortation Familiaris Consortio, 1).”
Out of love and concern for His creatures, God has taught us that marriage is a necessary prerequisite for sexual relations. The Catechism #2353 teaches:
“Fornication is carnal union between an unmarried man and an unmarried woman. It is gravely contrary to the dignity of persons and of human sexuality which is naturally ordered to the good of spouses and the generation and education of children. Moreover, it is a grave scandal when there is corruption of the young.”
That is a very different understanding than that of Pope Francis, including in his personal life before becoming Pope. In a revealing interview with Pope Francis’ own niece, she tells the account of his approval when she told him she would be living with another man despite not having an annulment of her marriage to her husband. María Inés Narvaja told Aleteia: “I remember when I told him that I couldn’t wait to until getting married in the Church, that I was a grownup now and I was going to get married in a civil marriage; he answered that ‘it’s the best news you’ve given me.’”
He didn’t only say it once. On February 25, 2017, he made similar remarks speaking to the Roman Rota. And one of his closest advisors, his most frequent interviewer, Jesuit priest Antonio Spadaro, tweeted out a photo of a couple going hand-in-hand to meet with the Pope. The caption on the photo, as you can see, contains the words of the Pope: “The welcoming of those young people who prefer to live together without getting married…”
Ping
I don’t know what the future holds for Leo XIV, but I think that we have to thank God that we didn’t get the “Francis II” that we feared... Let’s face it, we dodged a bullet. It was quite within the realm of possibility that Cardinals could have found some German or BeNeLux bishop willing to double or triple down on Bergoglio’s morality-destroying liberalism.
Thanks for the ping, ebby. Unfortunately, your cartoon network doesn’t quite get it right; inflammatory and Francis bashing - yes, facts and circumstances - wrong.
Pope Leo beautifully commented on evangelization and family (a favorite topic for Francis and will be for Leo.) Why don’t we (you) leave your insane clown posse out of things and defer to the Pope?
He’s dead, Jim.
I appreciate that Leo XIV has a John Paul II appreciation for the beauty of Sacramental Marriage, but expresses it in a clear way one might expect from an American born Missionary, rather than a Phenomenological exercise, or even B-XVI’s German Theological treatises. I can understand Leo XIV on the first read. Refreshing.
Go have a beer with the coward who is supposed to be the Archbishop of New York. Are you going to join him at the Pride parade this month?
Exactly. Yet you post articles (with fake) headlines whose sole intent is to deride a dead Pope.
We have a potentially Catholic Pope?
Hallelujah!!!
I say, in this greater mess was the pope’s (Bergolio's) later but equally problematic comment about his being “sure that cohabitating couples are in a true marriage having the grace of marriage”.
Face it,oysitr; your favorite Jesuit pope was a heretic in more ways than one. And you and your fishwrap newspapers can never change that. Francis's soul is in God's hands now, not yours.
You can call the truth lies all day long, but they'll still be truths.
Hence it is can no longer simply be said that all those in any “irregular” situation are living in a state of mortal sin and are deprived of sanctifying grace.
AMORIS LÆTITIA
OF THE HOLY FATHER FRANCIS
I see it, rather, as an article celebrating a Catholic pope, one we haven't had for twelve long years.
Actually, I look forward to Pope Leo. I doubt he does the reversals your “posse” expects. And, I am correct about your cartoon network and all their negative/attack articles. It seems you either don’t read or can’t comprehend your posts.
All more of your lies, oystir.
You have yet refuted one article. You just pound sand like a little child.
P.S. It's not possible to post positive articles about Jesuit heretics.
Do you support the following heresy from Bergoglio's Amoris Laetitia:
Hence it is can no longer simply be said that all those in any “irregular” situation are living in a state of mortal sin and are deprived of sanctifying grace.
Yes or No?
If "yes", you're a heretic like Franics; if "no" you're admitting Francis is a heretic.
[Catholic Caucus] Pope Leo XIV corrects the Francis record on cohabitation
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Posted on 6/3/2025, 11:23:43 AM by ebb tide
What compels you to do this?
To do what?
If you are suggesting that Pope Francis took a different look at failed marriages in a way that was not quite what Benedict calls a hermeneutic of continuity, I would agree.
As for my correctness, which you call lies, see post 15. Your callous postings from the spiteful, delusional cartoon network is a fact.
That’s not a refutation. That’s a referral to your fellow modernist heretic.
And Pope Leo did not refute Pope Francis. Reading is fundamental, ebby.
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