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Richard Hays, 76, Dies; Theologian Who Had Stunning Change of Heart He released a thunderclap into the evangelical world by asserting that a deeper reading of the Bible revealed that same-sex relationships are not sinful.
New York Times ^ | 12th January 2025 | Trip Gabriel

Posted on 01/13/2025 5:49:07 AM PST by Cronos

For decades, conservative Christians opposed to homosexuality cited the Bible scholarship of Richard B. Hays, the dean of Duke Divinity School, who provided a full-on argument from Scripture against gay relationships.

“Homosexuality is one among many tragic signs that we are a broken people, alienated from God’s loving purpose,” Mr. Hays asserted in his book “The Moral Vision of the New Testament” (1996), which was read by a generation of seminary students.

Then, last year, Mr. Hays released a thunderclap into the evangelical world by recanting his earlier views and asserting that a deeper reading of the Bible revealed that same-sex relationships are not sinful after all.

Just as surprising as his about-face was his explanation for why: Mr. Hays changed his mind about same-sex relationships, he said, because God changed his mind.

The New Testament “fully includes” L.G.B.T.Q. people, he wrote in what would be his last book, written as he knew that he was dying. Because same-sex marriage is blessed by God, he argued, the church should bless it as well.

Mr. Hays, an ordained Methodist minister who was one of the world’s leading New Testament theologians, died on Jan. 3 at his home in Nashville. He was 76.

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TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: duke; dukedivinity; falseprophet; homofascism; methodist; richardhays; satanchangedhismind
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What's the story with this guy? I've never heard of him before
1 posted on 01/13/2025 5:49:07 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Cronos

NYT wants to megaphone the Deeper message.


2 posted on 01/13/2025 5:50:31 AM PST by Bayard
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To: Cronos

Guessing it’s hot where he is right now.....


3 posted on 01/13/2025 5:50:34 AM PST by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: Cronos

You are the reason why he read deeper into the Bible to interpret homosexuality is not a sin.


4 posted on 01/13/2025 5:52:41 AM PST by Jonty30 (Liberals are a fulfillment of II Tim3:5. We are instructed to have nothing to do with those people. )
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To: Cronos

Well he made his way to Hades for sure!


5 posted on 01/13/2025 5:53:17 AM PST by dpetty121263
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To: Cronos

Homosexuality is broken people. Sexually traumatized people who were molested as children and are re-enacting the trauma.


6 posted on 01/13/2025 5:53:26 AM PST by Jonty30 (Liberals are a fulfillment of II Tim3:5. We are instructed to have nothing to do with those people. )
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To: Cronos

Saw the lede, and before looking at the source, I thought, “It’s gotta be one of the now laughed at gang”. Bingo, The NYT. Nothing more need be said..

Journalism, when one consistently failed studies classes, but still wants some sort of boxtop degree.


7 posted on 01/13/2025 5:54:53 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Cronos

Leviticus 18:22 is pretty clear. I don’t know how there could be any confusion.


8 posted on 01/13/2025 5:55:23 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Not only that, but Jesus reiterates it in Matthew 19: 4-5 and Paul is quite adamant about it in Romans 1.


9 posted on 01/13/2025 6:01:07 AM PST by woweeitsme
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To: Cronos

Interpreting the past to insert homosexuality and deviant sexual behavior as historically acceptable... And completely normal. It’s a thing.


10 posted on 01/13/2025 6:01:15 AM PST by jerod (Nazis were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

See also Romans 1:14-ff.

New Testament.


11 posted on 01/13/2025 6:01:38 AM PST by Westbrook (.ts are wizards at two things: Finding votes and losing evidence.)
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To: Cronos
I just went to a biblical men's group meeting last week, and the topic of discussion was homosexuality. I learned that prior to 1946, the word "homosexual" or any of its derivatives had never appeared in the Bible. I did not know that, but it was enough to pique my interest. But as the discussion wore on, there were half-a-dozen or more specific examples in both the Old and New Testament that, even though they did not use the word "Homosexuality" explicitly, were clear enough to convince me there isn't any wiggle room the way those who point out that 1946 translative demarcation. They never said "homosexual" or "homosexuality", but they had unequivocal statements such as:

"Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable."

and

"Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men"

Seems pretty clear to me.

So for some "important" religious figure to say that God approves of it seems like blasphemy to me.

12 posted on 01/13/2025 6:02:44 AM PST by rlmorel ("A people that elect corrupt politicians are not victims...but accomplices." George Orwell)
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To: Jonty30

huh? What? H is a sin as clearly stated before and after Jesus and by Jesus who clearly considered marriage as man+woman


13 posted on 01/13/2025 6:04:00 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Cronos

He decided the flames of Hell were preferable to an eternity with God.


14 posted on 01/13/2025 6:04:17 AM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91. )
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To: Cronos

Basically, marriage is between a man and a woman and sex outside of marriage is forbidden.


15 posted on 01/13/2025 6:04:38 AM PST by AppyPappy (If Hitler were alive today and criticized Trump, would he still be Hitler?)
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To: Bigg Red

Sorry, its hard to get around that part in the Bible that calls it an abomination against God. Oddly enough it only speaks out against homosexual men and Lesbian woman are not to be found in the Bible—that means that lesbianism might be OK with God. Maybe God thought women get such a bad break, he could do that for them?


16 posted on 01/13/2025 6:06:17 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (. War is Hell, War IS a Crime.)
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To: Cronos

A, He is a Methodist, so his theology is likely bad anyway.
B. Since he is dead, he knows the truth now.


17 posted on 01/13/2025 6:06:27 AM PST by Busywhiskers ("Once you have wrestled, everything else in life is easy" -Dan Gable)
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To: Jonty30

I think it is partly that and also partly the sinful nature.

A person may have the urge to klli (think “Dexter” - ok, yeah, that is fiction, but there are others with the tendency) - but that doesn’t make it NOT a sin, not a crime.

People may want to fool around without consequence, but no, that doesn’t stop it from being a sin.

We all have a stain, a fallen nature, and some people may have urges or “feelings”, but that does not make it correct.

Bad things happening to a person when a child does not make it ok for them to repeat it as an adult - we are thinking, sapient creatures.


18 posted on 01/13/2025 6:07:26 AM PST by Cronos
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To: rlmorel

For any person to read that and think that it means the opposite - leave alone blasphemy, it is illogical


19 posted on 01/13/2025 6:08:34 AM PST by Cronos
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To: AppyPappy
marriage is between a man and a woman and sex outside of marriage is forbidden.

Correct.

20 posted on 01/13/2025 6:09:07 AM PST by Cronos
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