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Jews and Catholics warn against Trump's latest loyalty test for religious voters
National Catholic Reporter ^ | Sept. 27, 2024 | DAVID CRARY

Posted on 10/31/2024 2:42:42 PM PDT by ConservativeMind

Former President Donald Trump recently reissued his loyalty test to religious Americans, declaring that he can best protect their freedoms while preemptively blaming members of certain faiths should he lose the presidential election in November.

Jews and Catholics can vote for him and ace the test, but those who don’t, he says, “need their head examined.” If he loses, Trump added, "Jewish people would have a lot to do with the loss.”

Among the Jewish leaders appalled at Trump’s remarks was Rabbi Rick Jacobs.

“Your words preemptively blaming Jews for your potential election loss is of a piece with millennia of antisemitic lies about Jewish power,” Jacobs said

Trump's speeches for years have hewed to divisive “us” versus “them” messaging, but tying those themes to specific religious Americans who oppose him is out of line and even dangerous, according to rhetoric experts, religious leaders and academics.

“Non-Jews shouldn’t express public opinions about what is or isn’t good Judaism and non-Catholics shouldn’t express public opinions about what is or isn’t good Catholicism,” said Steven Millies, a public theology professor at the Catholic Theological Union in Chicago.

Trump’s latest provocative comments came in a span of four days. His warnings about Jewish voters were in Sept. 19 speeches to Jewish donors and the Israeli-American Council in Washington. His remarks about Catholics came on Sept. 22…

…“Trump always makes his religious followers — especially Christians — choose. They have to choose him over pluralism, over morality, over evangelism,” said Boedy, a Protestant.

David Gibson said, “for a non-Catholic like Trump to be setting himself up as the savior of Catholics, or Jews for that matter, would have been political insanity.”

Gibson also suggested that Trump’s tough stance on immigration, which includes calls for mass deportations, is at odds with Catholic teaching.

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Good Catholics can’t vote for Trump.
1 posted on 10/31/2024 2:42:42 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: ConservativeMind
Harris cannot pick a Jewish man as her vice president, but it's Trump who has the religious loyalty test?

-PJ

2 posted on 10/31/2024 2:45:20 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: MeanWestTexan

Observant Jews can’t vote for Commiela.

(I literally typed the opposite of what I meant above.)


4 posted on 10/31/2024 2:47:11 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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To: ConservativeMind
Good Catholics can’t vote for Trump.

What you talkin' bout Willis?

from Imgflip Meme Generator

5 posted on 10/31/2024 2:48:42 PM PDT by frogjerk
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To: ConservativeMind

Twisted deceptive reasoning that makes Satan proud.


6 posted on 10/31/2024 2:50:23 PM PDT by Skwor
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To: MeanWestTexan

I was thrown off by the post above yours, too.


7 posted on 10/31/2024 2:54:45 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Orange is the new brown in)
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To: Skwor

ConservativeMind has been around forever.

I think he forgot to reread his post before sending. :)


8 posted on 10/31/2024 2:55:09 PM PDT by dp0622 (Tried a coup, a fake tax story, tramp slander, Russia nonsense, impeachment and a virus. They lost.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Everybody always makes it about their own insecurities. Like we give a crap. Vote for him or vote for your own destruction. But by all means STFU.


9 posted on 10/31/2024 2:55:42 PM PDT by HYPOCRACY (Brandon's pronouns: Xi/Hur)
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To: ConservativeMind
Gibson also suggested that Trump’s tough stance on immigration, which includes calls for mass deportations, is at odds with Catholic teaching

Trump is not calling for mass deportations of immigrants here legally. End of line. Harris is for unrestricted abortion for ANY reason up until birth and is most likely ok with allowing children that survive abortion to be left in a closet to succumb to attempted murder. We don't know for sure if she is for this final madness because she won't answer the question.

10 posted on 10/31/2024 2:57:26 PM PDT by frogjerk
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To: frogjerk

It’s not at odds with the Bible. God gave us borders for a reason.


11 posted on 10/31/2024 3:01:29 PM PDT by roving (Deplorable MAGA Garbage )
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To: MeanWestTexan
(I literally typed the opposite of what I meant above.)

I'm glad.

12 posted on 10/31/2024 3:04:33 PM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Bad ones will.


13 posted on 10/31/2024 3:06:13 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within ? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: ConservativeMind

Everyone knows Trump is referring to liberal Jews, Catholics or evangelicals, who do not truly live the faith they claim to hold. He has a first amendment right to give his opinion.


14 posted on 10/31/2024 3:06:22 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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What you talkin' bout Willis?

I'd spell the way he used to say it as: Wha chew talkin bout? :)

15 posted on 10/31/2024 3:06:44 PM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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Good Catholics can’t vote for Trump.

Good Catholics have to vote for partial-birth abortions, wealth confiscation, higher taxes, open borders to criminals
and sex traffickers, abandonment of Israel, mother Gaia and the green new deal, sex transition surgery for all, and devolution to a one party,
communist government.

Brand me, then, as a bad Catholic and worse Jew - I'm voting Trump.

16 posted on 10/31/2024 3:07:14 PM PDT by Thommas (The snout of the camel is already under the tent.)
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To: libertylover

I hit abuse on myself.

I was thrown off the the “good Catholic” post above and had a brain malfunction.


17 posted on 10/31/2024 3:10:37 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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Anyone who voted for Kamala needs their head examined regardless of their religion.
Trump is just joking around , I wouldn’t take it too seriously.


18 posted on 10/31/2024 3:10:54 PM PDT by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: ConservativeMind

I would love to know how Catholics can overlook the most prolife president in my 54 years on earth.


19 posted on 10/31/2024 3:11:01 PM PDT by enduserindy
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To: ConservativeMind

Yes, Trump too often uses stereotypes that lump all perons of a group together. So how is what Trump said different than Obama or Biden suggesting “blacks” are wrong not to support them? It’s not.

Either case lumps people together politically based only on ethnic identity. It’s always wrong.


20 posted on 10/31/2024 3:15:05 PM PDT by Wuli
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