Armed guards removing church members because they called out sin? The Bible says to do it.
Have we come to this?
please read my first comment I’d love to know your thoughts.
Does Robert Morris have a show on one of the Christian TV channels? The name sounds familiar to me.
Evil in the Pulpits.
Evil people pretending to do good things is what we are these days.
My church has a whole lot less than $500 million in assets. But each quarter, the head deacon delivers a pretty detailed financial report and the books are always open for any member to inspect.
Two separate issues involved in answering your question.
The Church, whether good or bad, has the right as a private entity, to trespass anyone who it likes, just like you or I could trespass anyone we wanted to on our property. Is it justified? Is it good relations? All depends, right?
The second part of your question relates to calling out sin. Yes, that’s ok, good actually. But in a society where free speech is a right, no consequence to free speech is not necessarily so.
Seems to me like she could move on and just find a good church. On the other hand, I cant fault her for calling out a problem. Its a matter of how much energy one thinks its worth to fight it.
"Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world." 1 John 4:1
The apostles warned us 2,000 years ago - why are we surprised?
Any church with a 501-3 is pretending to serve at least two masters but really is only serving Mammon.
Sure you do. Just be sure you know the facts
I've seen a good preacher and his family stalked by a crazy woman. She made all kinds of allegations, none of which could be proven and some of which were physically impossible - as the man and his wife were out of the country on a mission in Central America the years she claimed events occurred.
I've also seen accusations of homosexual priest behavior in our school, which were proven to be absolutely true
It takes a lot of wisdom to adjudicate these things. And the devil will never stop challenging the faith of believers.
It appears the church had a minister who sinned a long time ago at the church. The church board removed him.
This lady had some additional concerns, and she had a multi-hour-long meeting with a church pastor and elder. Within hours she was trashing the church on social media. Doesn’t seem like she spent much time in reflection and prayer nor discussing it with other church members or family before trashing the church. She then calling the press after getting kicked out.
I wouldn’t want to be associated with her.
There’s a lot going on here ... the lack of financial transparency, and the bad hiring decisions (really? a pedo heading the prison ministry?) are the real problems. The armed guards, disfellowship and trespassing of an inquisitive member are downstream
Why in the world would she want to stay there, anyway?
Two different issues in two lanes.
In lane one, you have the issue of sin and church integrity. It could be, as often is, violators and their buddies need rebuke.
In lane two, the church government controls private property and assets, and they can make people leave as they choose, whether lane one is being addressed or not.
The church of Israel killed the Christ. Why should it be any different now. This woman was persecuted for Righteousness sake, which Jesus said would happen.
im eondering...what would have happened if she plowed on ahead ignoring these armed guards.
take her down & cuff her or shoot her?
smdh
The Greek word for heretic is hairetikos, which means “a follower of false doctrine.”
The wrong will twist the scriptures and use translations that justify their wrongness. To translate hairetikos as “divisive” expands the intent of this verse.